Re: Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> There is also another thing to consider. While files are being
> downloaded, indexing services can begin to work overtime, since the
> files are changed continually.
> Indexing is a problem; on one hand, you'd like to have your downloaded
> files indexed and available through Deskbar search, etc. On the other,
> you don't want to index files as they're being downloaded. With aMule,
> this is easily handled, as you can choose to exclude the temporary
> folder from trackerd, but other tools doesn't separate in this way.

tracker will stop indexing a file if it has changed more than 10 times recently,
as to avoid this cases. It will of course index it again once trackerd is
restarted, so you have your downloaded files indexed.

This will be implemented in tracker 0.6.5.

Emilio

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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Re: Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Having a ~Downloads directory with a link to each applications
download folder doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, though if it's
possible, I'd like to have all downloaded files in the same folder.

There is also another thing to consider. While files are being
downloaded, indexing services can begin to work overtime, since the
files are changed continually.
Indexing is a problem; on one hand, you'd like to have your downloaded
files indexed and available through Deskbar search, etc. On the other,
you don't want to index files as they're being downloaded. With aMule,
this is easily handled, as you can choose to exclude the temporary
folder from trackerd, but other tools doesn't separate in this way.

Best regards,

Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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Hug Day - 07 February 2008

2008-02-05 Thread Pedro Villavicencio Garrido
Hello Ubuntu Lovers,

In addition to the Hug Days of the Tuesdays, we'll held another Hug Day
the Thursdays of the next weeks they'll be based on Desktop packages,
the package elected for this week is the Evolution email client:

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080207

Our goal is to deal with all of the bugs on that list.

Who can join the Hug Day? Everyone. You don't need to be a developer.
You don't need to know to code. Everyone is welcome. If you don't know
how to help, then just come and we'll explain you everything.

In a Bug Day, you can 
 * work in a nice team,
 * make sure the bug reporters' concerns are heard,
 * gather all the information needed so developers can fix bugs,
 * close useless bugs,
 * find out where the bugs come from,

and eventually

 * work together with upstream to make changes happen,
 * get experience in hacking and fixing bugs.

Where to join the Hug Day? #ubuntu-bugs on freenode IRC. And you can go
there every other day too!

When to join the Hug Day? Next hug day is on February Thursday 07, 2008
In all timezones. 
But again, you can go there every day and help with triaging the bug
tracking systems.

While you are welcome to apply to join the Ubuntu Bug Control team at
anytime, Hug Day is a great day to join!

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl

If you're interested in helping to make the next release of Ubuntu even
better - please stop by.  And feel free to ask bdmurray, ogasawara,
pedro, heno and the rest of the team for ways to help out.  We hope to
see you there and your name on the list of bug triagers!

Have a nice day,

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Re: Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Ricardo Pérez López wrote:
> El mar, 05-02-2008 a las 16:30 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort escribió:
>> Ricardo Pérez López wrote:
>>> El mar, 05-02-2008 a las 14:42 +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió:
 It would be nice if we had one directory for downloads, whether you
 download using Firefox, Transmission, or something else.
>>> +1
>>>
>>> The "Downloads" directory may also contain a symlink to the aMule's
>>> "Incoming" directory, i.e. "~/.aMule/Incoming". Guadalinex [0] (an
>>> Ubuntu derived distro from Spain) does that similarly.
>> No, as aMule's Incoming directory is used as the shared folder, so you may 
>> end
>> sharing the pictures you received via pidgin :)
> 
> Maybe I didn't explain well:
> 
> ~/Downloads
> ~/Downloads/Incoming (a symlink to ~/.aMule/Incoming)

That makes more sense :) Sorry, I misunderstood you. I think Downloads/aMule
would be clearer, though.

> 
> The pictures received with Pidgin will be in ~/Downloads directory,
> outside the Incoming, so you will not share that with another aMule
> users.
> 
>>> It could be even a symlink to the Temp directory (~/.aMule/Temp).
>> This doesn't make sense to me, as you won't probably be able to use the files
>> from there until they have finished (and then they'll be in Incoming...).
> 
> Sure, although sometimes (especially with video files, like movies) the
> files inside the Temp directory can be preview.

Yes, but it adds more clutter to the folder and only a few files can be
previewed, and I think (although I may be wrong) most people don't want to
preview them anyway.

> 
> Ricardo.
> 
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Re: Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Ricardo Pérez López

El mar, 05-02-2008 a las 16:30 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort escribió:
> Ricardo Pérez López wrote:
> > El mar, 05-02-2008 a las 14:42 +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió:
> >> It would be nice if we had one directory for downloads, whether you
> >> download using Firefox, Transmission, or something else.
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > The "Downloads" directory may also contain a symlink to the aMule's
> > "Incoming" directory, i.e. "~/.aMule/Incoming". Guadalinex [0] (an
> > Ubuntu derived distro from Spain) does that similarly.
> 
> No, as aMule's Incoming directory is used as the shared folder, so you may end
> sharing the pictures you received via pidgin :)

Maybe I didn't explain well:

~/Downloads
~/Downloads/Incoming (a symlink to ~/.aMule/Incoming)

The pictures received with Pidgin will be in ~/Downloads directory,
outside the Incoming, so you will not share that with another aMule
users.

> 
> > 
> > It could be even a symlink to the Temp directory (~/.aMule/Temp).
> 
> This doesn't make sense to me, as you won't probably be able to use the files
> from there until they have finished (and then they'll be in Incoming...).

Sure, although sometimes (especially with video files, like movies) the
files inside the Temp directory can be preview.

Ricardo.



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Re: Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Ricardo Pérez López wrote:
> El mar, 05-02-2008 a las 14:42 +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió:
>> It would be nice if we had one directory for downloads, whether you
>> download using Firefox, Transmission, or something else.
> 
> +1
> 
> The "Downloads" directory may also contain a symlink to the aMule's
> "Incoming" directory, i.e. "~/.aMule/Incoming". Guadalinex [0] (an
> Ubuntu derived distro from Spain) does that similarly.

No, as aMule's Incoming directory is used as the shared folder, so you may end
sharing the pictures you received via pidgin :)

> 
> It could be even a symlink to the Temp directory (~/.aMule/Temp).

This doesn't make sense to me, as you won't probably be able to use the files
from there until they have finished (and then they'll be in Incoming...).

> 
> Ricardo.
> 
> [0] http://www.guadalinex.org
> 
> 
> 




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Re: Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Ricardo Pérez López

El mar, 05-02-2008 a las 14:42 +0100, Jo-Erlend Schinstad escribió:
> It would be nice if we had one directory for downloads, whether you
> download using Firefox, Transmission, or something else.

+1

The "Downloads" directory may also contain a symlink to the aMule's
"Incoming" directory, i.e. "~/.aMule/Incoming". Guadalinex [0] (an
Ubuntu derived distro from Spain) does that similarly.

It could be even a symlink to the Temp directory (~/.aMule/Temp).

Ricardo.

[0] http://www.guadalinex.org



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Use a general ~Downloads-folder for all applications.

2008-02-05 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
It would be nice if we had one directory for downloads, whether you
download using Firefox, Transmission, or something else. Now, when you
download, it's automatically sent to the root of your home directory,
causing a lot of unnecessary clutter, unless you manually configure
the applications to use a specific folder for this. It should work
with xdg-user-dirs like the other well-known directories, and the
default applications should be configured to use it, at least Firefox
and Transmission, but maybe also Pidgin (and xchat, if it should make
it into ubuntu-desktop). It would be nice if all downloading
applications in the repositories would use Downloads too, but that
isn't necessary to begin with, I think.

Best regards,

Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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