Ubuntu QA presents: Hardy desktop bug list
Hello! The Ubuntu QA team has assembled a list of bugs that we think should be fixed for Hardy. These are often long-standing bugs or bugs with many subscribers, comments or duplicates. The bugs are generally in a mature triage state and should be ready to work on. The desktop list can be seen here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/qa-hardy-list-archive/sort-by-package/desktop-buglist.html Or simply as a search of the 'qa-hardy-desktop' tag in Launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=qa-hardy-desktop Please help us close these out! Henrik Ubuntu QA -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
[Bug 161960] Re: Add function to WinKey button on keyboard
Here is a good reason to make it so: Discoverability! People often come to Ubuntu and wonder where the Start menu is. If they could press the Super key (Start) and have something appear, that would mean they quickly learn what Ubuntu has instead. People must think outside of the anti-Windows thing here. The Start key may have been inspired by Microsoft's main menu, but that does not mean it should be ignored. It does not say Windows' Start Menu; it says Start. Start can mean whatever we make it to mean, and it can most definitely apply here. I think that it makes sense for that key to mean and do what it tends to say these days, which is to start the user off. No, the menu does not have to say Start for that to make sense. I, for one, would prefer if the menu did not since having two Starts would be redundant. The Super key could be effectively mapped to either GNOME's main menu applet, or to Deskbar. Both of those applets are present by default and offer a great way of starting off one's journey into Ubuntu. Either one could be achieved via a fairly straight-forward patch that changes default settings for the respective application. I'll see what I can do myself, although I must admit to having never looked at either application (and I am a bit lost as to what project is ultimately in charge of GNOME's hotkeys). -- Add function to WinKey button on keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/161960 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Bug 161960] Re: Add function to WinKey button on keyboard
It doesn't take more than five minutes to learn how to configure keyboard shortcuts, but it must be learned. Why should it need to be learned? Why make it hard for new users if we can easily pre-map a key to the application menu? -- Add function to WinKey button on keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/161960 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
[Bug 161960] Re: Add function to WinKey button on keyboard
Have you ever seen the disbelief on Windows users faces when you tell them there aren't any viruses for Linux? They're so used to it, they think it's completely natural for an operating system to have viruses. But it's not. The question isn't why Ubuntu doesn't have the same default keyboard shortcuts as Windows. The question is, why would Super L be a good choice for the Applications menu? The fact that Windows has a similar menu pop up when someone presses it, is not a good reason. Why should it need to be learned? Because if we mimic Windows too closely just to be similar, people will make other assumptions too. Ubuntu is a different system with its own philosophy. It must be learned. -- Add function to WinKey button on keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/161960 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Bug 161960] Re: Add function to WinKey button on keyboard
I think you are looking at this from a completely unnecessary and, frankly, foolish perspective. Microsoft's Windows renders GUI applications into different blocks (windows), each with their own externally controlled Close, Minimize and Maximize buttons. The fact is, people expect this and it is an intuitive choice. Similarly, Super L says Start on it 99% of the time (number pulled from thin air, but can't be far off!). In addition, it is mapped to nothing by default. What harm is there in mapping it to something? I for one prefer using Super as a modifier key for all my Compiz plugins, but as one who has been converted and adapted to Ubuntu and the joys of customization, I do not mind in the slightest the idea of going and turning that event-stealing functionality off. As for the claim that We shouldn't look like Windows!!, I would like to point you to a recent change in Ubuntu, which added symlinks simulating Windows' shell commands. (For example, dir). There are a lot of Windows users out there, and it certainly does not hurt to help them along. There is absolutely no harm in either of these things. How can I say that? Well, did you notice that you can type dir in the shell and have it do something? Has that change come out and eaten your hand off? Thought not. The claim that Ubuntu must be learned is an interesting one. I accept that I would scream in horror if somebody gave me Linux command line directions using dir and the like, but it can't be learned at all if the first step to learning is a tricky one. Our job is to make it as easy as possible so that people do not *need* to read the documentation. The system should make sense on its own. Super L triggering a function that resembles Starting is a relatively simple concept, unlikely to harm anyone, and no more intrusive than the Windows shell symlinks -- and those have proven quite painless so far. Now, back to the topic at hand: Implementation! On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever seen the disbelief on Windows users faces when you tell them there aren't any viruses for Linux? They're so used to it, they think it's completely natural for an operating system to have viruses. But it's not. The question isn't why Ubuntu doesn't have the same default keyboard shortcuts as Windows. The question is, why would Super L be a good choice for the Applications menu? The fact that Windows has a similar menu pop up when someone presses it, is not a good reason. Why should it need to be learned? Because if we mimic Windows too closely just to be similar, people will make other assumptions too. Ubuntu is a different system with its own philosophy. It must be learned. -- Add function to WinKey button on keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/161960 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop -- Add function to WinKey button on keyboard https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/161960 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 02:43 +, Greg K Nicholson wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 17:52 +1300, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg K Nicholson wrote on 14/02/08 03:05: Epiphany and Firefox could adopt the same behavior in their Bookmarks menus. In which case Alt-dragging wouldn't move the window as usual. ... It already doesn't, and probably never has. In Epiphany the modifier is ignored, and in Firefox it (probably accidentally) closes the menu. Is that by design (and if so, what's the rationale behind it?) or is it simply a bug that should be fixed? Actually, here (on Hardy, using Firefox 3 beta 3) Alt-dragging the window works as expected. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
