Re: Inclusion of Abiword 2.6 in Hardy Heron
On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 22:35 -0700, Ted Gould wrote: > So, I'm for it but I think it is a very close call. I'll probably make > an attempt at the packaging as I want to play with Abicollab, but it > seems unlikely I'll get it right. I think if we want this to happen > someone with significant deb-fu would have to do it. Seems that Fedora is shipping quite a few patches right now: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewcvs/rpms/abiword/devel/ >From the change log, someone with an @abisource e-mail address has been doing the packaging. Probably fairly up-to-date. --Ted -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Inclusion of Abiword 2.6 in Hardy Heron
Dylan McCall wrote: > There is a bug report filed, requesting to update Abiword to the new > version 2.6 for Ubuntu Hardy. It does not appear that the desktop team > has been notified of it automatically though it was suggested that you > folks should have something to do with the freeze exception, so I may as > well let you know myself! Thanks for the email, I was thinking about this but hadn't gotten to doing anything about it. > The reasoning is, in my opinion, indisputable. 2.4.x is now dead; it is > not going to receive any updates whatsoever. This means that many > outstanding bugs in the package would remain unfixed in Hardy without > updating the packaged version of Abiword. I should also take this moment > to point out that abiword-gnome is in main... I would like to support this if we possibly can. Abiword 2.6 has been a long time coming, will fix ~7 bugs in Launchpad and despite the bad timing in our release cycle maintaining 2.4 for the LTS time line could be a beast. Upstream has already had over 300,000 download of 2.6 so I would think say something at least of the demand and testing. The "cons" I thought of are: - no time really for translations - possibly break documentation (does Xubuntu document Abiword at all?) - no Debian package as of yet so we can't sync/merge. We'd need to do the packaging ourselves. Lots of good pros and significant cons. If we could pull it off I think it'd be great for our users though. > > Relevant bug report: > bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/202174 just my two cents, -Jordan -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Inclusion of Abiword 2.6 in Hardy Heron
I guess this is the way the way I see it: -1 Feature freeze (2.6 has tons of new features) +1 Longer support cycle which is a plus for an LTS +1 Significant improvements that are worth pushing for -1 Packaging seems non-obvious as the Abi folks have rearranged things a little bit. Increases risk of doing something wrong. +1 I like Abiword and would like to see it succeed, I think that 2.6 lays and important foundation for future word processing on Ubuntu --- +1 Total So, I'm for it but I think it is a very close call. I'll probably make an attempt at the packaging as I want to play with Abicollab, but it seems unlikely I'll get it right. I think if we want this to happen someone with significant deb-fu would have to do it. --Ted On Fri, 2008-04-04 at 21:20 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > There is a bug report filed, requesting to update Abiword to the new > version 2.6 for Ubuntu Hardy. It does not appear that the desktop team > has been notified of it automatically though it was suggested that you > folks should have something to do with the freeze exception, so I may as > well let you know myself! > The reasoning is, in my opinion, indisputable. 2.4.x is now dead; it is > not going to receive any updates whatsoever. This means that many > outstanding bugs in the package would remain unfixed in Hardy without > updating the packaged version of Abiword. I should also take this moment > to point out that abiword-gnome is in main... > > Further, 2.6.x breathes wonderful new life into Abiword, and it would > simply be a shame not to see it in the context of having new stuff. I > think Abiword deserves some support since the program is making > wonderful progress to being a good, integrated and easy to use > alternative to OpenOffice -- possibly worth considering as a default > some day. That day when Ubuntu can have a powerful and integrated office > suite by default will not come any time soon, however, if the packaged > version in its LTS release is out of date by over a year. Such an idea > cannot grow support if people are seeing an ugly, buggy and outdated > version of the program. (While this is a tad off topic, in my opinion > such an idea would be a good one; OpenOffice is wonderful, but totally > out of place as a default thanks to its behaving completely different > from anything else in this desktop environment; the more momentum > towards a full-fledged GNOME Office, the better!). > > Relevant bug report: > bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/202174 > > Thanks, > -Dylan McCall -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Inclusion of Abiword 2.6 in Hardy Heron
There is a bug report filed, requesting to update Abiword to the new version 2.6 for Ubuntu Hardy. It does not appear that the desktop team has been notified of it automatically though it was suggested that you folks should have something to do with the freeze exception, so I may as well let you know myself! The reasoning is, in my opinion, indisputable. 2.4.x is now dead; it is not going to receive any updates whatsoever. This means that many outstanding bugs in the package would remain unfixed in Hardy without updating the packaged version of Abiword. I should also take this moment to point out that abiword-gnome is in main... Further, 2.6.x breathes wonderful new life into Abiword, and it would simply be a shame not to see it in the context of having new stuff. I think Abiword deserves some support since the program is making wonderful progress to being a good, integrated and easy to use alternative to OpenOffice -- possibly worth considering as a default some day. That day when Ubuntu can have a powerful and integrated office suite by default will not come any time soon, however, if the packaged version in its LTS release is out of date by over a year. Such an idea cannot grow support if people are seeing an ugly, buggy and outdated version of the program. (While this is a tad off topic, in my opinion such an idea would be a good one; OpenOffice is wonderful, but totally out of place as a default thanks to its behaving completely different from anything else in this desktop environment; the more momentum towards a full-fledged GNOME Office, the better!). Relevant bug report: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/202174 Thanks, -Dylan McCall signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Bug Day - 08 April 2008
It's been about two months since we've looked at bugs with out a package and the number is continuing to grow. So let's take a look at these on Tuesday, April 8th! We can easily help these bug reports by assigning them to the right package but it'd be best to get them triaged. The event will be held in #ubuntu-bugs on Freenode. The bug list I've created is focused on reports that should be about Hardy and is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080408 Our goal is to deal with all of the bugs on that list and then move on to other bugs without a package. So on 08 April 2008, in all timezones, we'll be meeting in #ubuntu-bugs on irc.freenode.net for another Ubuntu Hug Day. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay While you are welcome to apply to join the Ubuntu Bug Control team anytime, Hug Day is a great day to join! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl If you're interested in helping to make the next release of Ubuntu even better - please stop by. And feel free to ask bdmurray, ogasawara, pedro, heno and the rest of the team for ways to help out. We hope to see you there and your name on the list of bug triagers! -- Brian Murray @ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
