Hover highlight effect inconsistency with GNOME applets.

2008-12-11 Thread Tomasz Dominikowski
Hi. I'm a long time GNOME user (since Hoary Hedgehog) and just today,
maybe because of the new FUSA applet and watching a newbie struggle
with it, something ocurred to me.

Why is it that only some of the applets are highlighted when you hover
your mouse cursor over them and some are not?

Some examples:

- Applications/Places/System buttons are not highlighted, but they
don't look like something obviously clickable at all.
- The new FUSA applet suggests with its tiny red power off icon that
it might be clickable, but the entire area of the applet is not
obviously clickable (leading my fellow newbie to try and click that
little red icon).
- The brightness applet sun icon isn't highlighted. It displays a
drop-down menu when clicked, so exactly the same behavior as time and
date applet (which is highlighted).
- The trash applet isn't highlighted.

On the other hand, these are highlighted (and for good reason):

All manually added icons (activators). Looks good, not necessary, but
looks good.
Lock screen applet icon. Looks good, not necessary, but looks good.
The time and date applet is highlighted, suggesting that it is
clickable and most importantly, that the whole area is clickable
(including the integrated weather report). Good. Discoverable.
The workspaces switcher applet highlights the workspaces as you hover
your cursor over them, making it easier to understand what are they
all about. Good.
The Show desktop button/applet is highlighted. It looks like a
button, so it's obviously clickable, so it it may not even be
necessary to highlight it, but it doesn't distract. Good.


I was trying to make sense of it all, eg.:
1) If it's an applet with an icon - highlight it
Inconsistent - trash applet, brightness applet and probably more
2) If it's an applet without an icon or simply non-obviously-clickable
- highlight it
Inconsistent - most of them (apart from time and date applet and
workspace switcher applet)

I wouldn't notice this inconsistency, but just try to move your mouse
from the time and date applet over to the FUSA applet and see what I'm
talking about. Tooltips help to some degree, but it's just a band-aid
for the inconsistency.

Any thoughts, suggestions, explanations?

Regards,
 Tomasz Dominikowski
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Re: Hover highlight effect inconsistency with GNOME applets.

2008-12-11 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Tomasz Dominikowski wrote:
 Any thoughts, suggestions, explanations?

Sounds quite good. I like when we aim for more consistency :)
Perhaps this should be proposed upstream to be included in the HIG though.

Cheers,
Emilio

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Re: Hover highlight effect inconsistency with GNOME applets.

2008-12-11 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
to, 2008-12-11 kello 15:22 +0100, Tomasz Dominikowski kirjoitti:
 
 Any thoughts, suggestions, explanations?

I haven't noticed this before, but you are right: the highlight
behaviour is inconsistent. At the moment I'd suggest we try to highlight
everything that is clickable in the panels.



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Re: Hover highlight effect inconsistency with GNOME applets.

2008-12-11 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2008/12/11 Otto Kekäläinen o...@sange.fi

 to, 2008-12-11 kello 15:22 +0100, Tomasz Dominikowski kirjoitti:
 
  Any thoughts, suggestions, explanations?

 I haven't noticed this before, but you are right: the highlight
 behaviour is inconsistent. At the moment I'd suggest we try to highlight
 everything that is clickable in the panels.


I have noticed this, but I haven't given it a second thought. I think I may
have
found a commonality; the applets that has an immediate effect when clicked
lights up on hover, while those that display a menu, slider, etc, does not.
This is not true for all applets, however. The System Monitor applet, for
instance, does not work this way, though a single click will open the System
Monitor.

If it isn't designed that way, I think maybe it should; it makes sense to
warn
about clicks that has an immediate action. That way, the menuline, volum
control, power manager and FUSA should not light up, since they'll only
display
sliders or menus. Launchers, window switchers, show desktop, etc should.
Following this philosophy, I think the clock applet shouldn't light up,
since it
doesn't really perform any operations, only displays the calendar. The
system
monitor applet, however, should light up.

My two cents;

Jo-Erlend Schinstad
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