Re: Call for testing: LightDM
On 06/06/2011 10:30 PM, Kevin Huang wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:01 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: This feature is just not implemented yet. It will be in Oneiric. Any target date that loco can start to test? Definitely by Beta, ideally by A2. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Call for testing: LightDM
This feature is just not implemented yet. It will be in Oneiric. Good to know, Robert. Are you able to say something about e.g. the keyboard layout and universal access? This is an area where I'm definitely not an expert, and your help is greatly appreciated here! Most of my knowledge has come from picking Martin Pitt's brain and talking to others. The keyboard design as I see it is: - The layout is left as X sets it up - Selecting a user switches to the keyboard layout they have configured in their ~/.dmrc. If not present, keep the default layout - There will be a layout switcher, which will be applied to the .dmrc so it is preserved on login - Cancelling a login will revert to the default layout The real difficulty is in making sure that I've handled all the keyboard config correctly. I'm using libxklavier, I just need to know how many config items to save/restore correctly. With universal access the goal is as much as we can get. The greeter will probably be built with the same tech as Unity so as well as Unity. Ideally we'll have full AT-SPI with Orca running if required and an onscreen keyboard. Great. Is Gunnar Hjalmarsso involved in this feature implementation, I'm not yet, but I plan to make myself involved to assist with the i18n matters. :) I'll try to ensure that the current functionality with respect to languages and locales is preserved in the Oneiric release. Please do! File bugs on anything that's not up to scratch. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Call for testing: LightDM
On 2011-06-07 10:22, Robert Ancell wrote: Are you able to say something about e.g. the keyboard layout and universal access? This is an area where I'm definitely not an expert, and your help is greatly appreciated here! Most of my knowledge has come from picking Martin Pitt's brain and talking to others. Hmm.. I merely asked because I wouldn't like to see significant regression, and did not mean to imply that I have anything useful to contribute with. Sorry if I gave another impression. :-/ ... I plan to make myself involved to assist with the i18n matters. :) I'll try to ensure that the current functionality with respect to languages and locales is preserved in the Oneiric release. Please do! File bugs on anything that's not up to scratch. You'll hear from me soon. Thanks! -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Call for testing: LightDM
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 11:03:12AM +0100, Matthew East wrote: On 7 June 2011 10:02, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: yeah, I would very much hope that lightdm does not introduce more accessibility regressions. I'm taking this opportunity to post a link to this comment on the proposed switch to lightDM from Matthew Garrett, in case people reading here haven't seen it, it seems relevant to this discussion and I haven't seen it mentioned before. It also briefly discusses impact on accessibility, albeit without going into detail. http://mjg59.livejournal.com/136274.html tl;dr version: Every wart is earned in the process of fixing a bug; those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it, etc. Fairly bog standard rant against doing something new. Yeah, 'lightweight' does tend to be used as a euphemism for 'incomplete' far too often; I'm onboard with that. Sort of like using 'cheap' to describe a product or 'randomly' in a bug description. But come now, this is gdm we're talking about... I remember when Firefox first came out, there were some who felt that starting over from scratch after so much effort had gone into creating the Mozilla codebase was a mistake. Mozilla had a built-in HTML editor, and a calendar and email reader and lots more. Firefox did so much *less* than Mozilla. But who still uses Mozilla? Bryce Why bother having a baby, when there are plenty of fully grown homeless people available at your local freeway onramp? -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
