Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Improved Authentication

2011-10-04 Thread Didier Roche
Le 05/10/2011 06:30, Robert Ancell a écrit : It would be nice to improve the authentication mechanisms in Ubuntu to be more user friendly and make it easier to enable modern authentication schemes. This will probably involve: - Reviewing the messages/prompts in PAM for appropriateness - Adding h

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Video playback?

2011-10-04 Thread Didier Roche
Le 05/10/2011 06:17, Robert Ancell a écrit On 05/10/11 10:07, Luke Yelavich wrote: On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:41:17AM EST, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 4 October 2011 14:49, Sebastien Bacher wrote: We probably don't want to switch video players in a lts cycle but not sure if we should go with the ne

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Accessibility pollish.

2011-10-04 Thread Didier Roche
Le 05/10/2011 01:07, Luke Yelavich a écrit : Hey folks, Since Unity has been introduced, many strides have been made with accessibility. Unity 3D is approximately 80% accessible, so far as official oneiric packages go, and unity-2d is 99% accessible, thanks to the great work from the QT a11y

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Wayland tech preview

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
It would be nice to be able to optionally run Wayland in 12.04 to try out the technology. This will involve: - Modifying LightDM to support Wayland - Writing a Wayland compositor - Running an X server that writes to the compositor - Making it easy to enable this - Disclaiming all responsibility T

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Improved Authentication

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
It would be nice to improve the authentication mechanisms in Ubuntu to be more user friendly and make it easier to enable modern authentication schemes. This will probably involve: - Reviewing the messages/prompts in PAM for appropriateness - Adding hints to PAM to allow GUIs to better display the

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Video playback?

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 05/10/11 10:07, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:41:17AM EST, Jeremy Bicha wrote: >> On 4 October 2011 14:49, Sebastien Bacher wrote: >>> We probably don't want to switch video players in a lts cycle but not >>> sure if we should go with the new version (we staying on 3.0 which

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Multi-screen setups

2011-10-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 04:54:02AM +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > One area that really needs extra attention, is multi-screen setups. > There are currently numerous issues. Some are just plain bugs, whereas > others need designed solutions. It is currently very inconsistent. > > For instance;

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Multi-screen setups

2011-10-04 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
One area that really needs extra attention, is multi-screen setups. There are currently numerous issues. Some are just plain bugs, whereas others need designed solutions. It is currently very inconsistent. For instance; the panel is displayed equally on both screens and indicators are shown on all

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop performances

2011-10-04 Thread Evan Broder
We now have a lot of infrastructure for evaluating and improving boot time. But all of the evaluation we've done has been under ideal situations - namely on filesystems that readahead well with a pre-populated ureadahead pack. But when people try Ubuntu for the first time, their experience won't b

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Accessibility pollish.

2011-10-04 Thread Luke Yelavich
Hey folks, Since Unity has been introduced, many strides have been made with accessibility. Unity 3D is approximately 80% accessible, so far as official oneiric packages go, and unity-2d is 99% accessible, thanks to the great work from the QT a11y folks, and the unity-2d developers. Both are li

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Video playback?

2011-10-04 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 06:41:17AM EST, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On 4 October 2011 14:49, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > We probably don't want to switch video players in a lts cycle but not > > sure if we should go with the new version (we staying on 3.0 which still > > uses xv for Oneiric). Clutter-gs

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop quality (bugs fixing)

2011-10-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 01:45:38PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey, > > That's not really a topic but we all know we need to fix bugs (a lot of > those) for the LTS, we should make sure to budget time for that and have > a driven focus on the goal. One thing we might want to discuss is how we

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Working VNC (or no VNC)

2011-10-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 08:40:43PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hi, > > That's a small topic but seems vino and compositing (i.e unity) don't > work really fine together: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/772873 > > Not sure if that's a driver issue, xorg, vino, other but

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Video playback?

2011-10-04 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 4 October 2011 14:49, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > We probably don't want to switch video players in a lts cycle but not > sure if we should go with the new version (we staying on 3.0 which still > uses xv for Oneiric). Clutter-gst might introduce issues (vblank was > mentioning as a potential iss

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop sound theme,effects?

2011-10-04 Thread Eric Appleman
On 10/04/2011 02:43 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Hey, That's a small topic, but the current sound theme and effects are not great, the "sound effect" configuration tab doesn't make lot of sense either. Would somebody be interested to pick up on that and improvement it next cycle? We were also spe

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Video playback?

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, Not sure if that one should be in the GNOME spec, but totem 3.2 switched to have only clutter-gst as a video playing backend (i.e no xv backend). We probably don't want to switch video players in a lts cycle but not sure if we should go with the new version (we staying on 3.0 which still use

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop sound theme,effects?

2011-10-04 Thread Shane Fagan
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey, > > That's a small topic, but the current sound theme and effects are not > great, the "sound effect" configuration tab doesn't make lot of sense > either. Would somebody be interested to pick up on that and improvement > it next cycle

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop sound theme,effects?

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, That's a small topic, but the current sound theme and effects are not great, the "sound effect" configuration tab doesn't make lot of sense either. Would somebody be interested to pick up on that and improvement it next cycle? We were also speaking about disabling the startup sound so it woul

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Working VNC (or no VNC)

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hi, That's a small topic but seems vino and compositing (i.e unity) don't work really fine together: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/772873 Not sure if that's a driver issue, xorg, vino, other but the issue is not new and doesn't reflect nicely on Ubuntu, I think we should be

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop performances

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, Since we have been a bit sloppy on that topic since lucid (or busy with new features) we should aim back at better performances for the lts, that include cpu and memory usage and login time. Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://li

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop quality (bugs fixing)

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, That's not really a topic but we all know we need to fix bugs (a lot of those) for the LTS, we should make sure to budget time for that and have a driven focus on the goal. One thing we might want to discuss is how we will build the list of desktop bugs that we think we should work on the dur

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Desktop applications selection

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, That's another "classic" for UDS, we should probably not change a lot but we said we would revisit having pitivi on the CD, we should also have a look to GNOME new stuff like the sushi previewer for nautilus Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubun

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Implement systemd/PackageKit interfaces

2011-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi With GNOME moving to using more and more systemd and PackageKit in different places, instead of having to patch all the apps using them to use our services, it would be great to implement those in our stack (aptdaemon and ubuntu-system-service). Work has been started to implement PK system bus

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Integrate language-selector to control center

2011-10-04 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On mar, 2011-10-04 at 12:41 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Sebastien Bacher [2011-10-04 11:24 +0200]: > > I think we should work on making the upstream "region" capplet do what > > we need and deprecate language-selector in its favor if we can ;-) > > Big +1. language-selector is pretty horrible code

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Integrate language-selector to control center

2011-10-04 Thread Martin Pitt
Sebastien Bacher [2011-10-04 11:24 +0200]: > I think we should work on making the upstream "region" capplet do what > we need and deprecate language-selector in its favor if we can ;-) Big +1. language-selector is pretty horrible code, I'd love to get rid of it. We will probably need to keep a dis

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Calendar integration?

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, With our switch to tb this cycle we let the default installation without a calendering solution. We should decide if we need one by default. We might not need a full client ui but we should probably at least have a way to subscribe to a remote calendar to have desktop integration and notific

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Stop using deprecated libraries

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, We still have gconf, gtk2 and gnomevfs on the CD, we should see which ones we can drop from the CD for the lts and keep the porting work. We should be able to at least get ride of webkit-gtk2 and gnome-vfs during the cycle, the others will be harder though... Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- u

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Improved screen locking, user switching

2011-10-04 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 11:07:39AM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Hey again, > > Continuing the work started with the login experience this cycle I think > we should improve the screen locking, user switching experience. We > should also revisit if we want to support screensaver graphics or rath

[Desktop12.04-Topic] gnome-control-center printing capplet vs system-config-printer

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, It's something Till put on the agenda at the previous UDS, we decided to stay on system-config-printer for Oneiric but meanwhile upstream continued work on the new integrated version, including using system-config-printer as a backend, we should revisit if the GNOME version is close enough fr

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Integrate language-selector to control center

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, I think we should work on making the upstream "region" capplet do what we need and deprecate language-selector in its favor if we can ;-) Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Improved screen locking, user switching

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey again, Continuing the work started with the login experience this cycle I think we should improve the screen locking, user switching experience. We should also revisit if we want to support screensaver graphics or rather if that's a priority to invest efforts in Cheers, Sebastien Bacher --

[Desktop12.04-Topic] GNOME Version for the LTS

2011-10-04 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey, So first easy one, discuss what GNOME version we will track for the LTS. It's basically a discussion we have at every UDS ;-) Cheers, Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop