Proposals for default synaptics property changes

2012-02-06 Thread Chase Douglas
Hi all, I've been working on multitouch, trackpads, and anything in between for a while now. There's a couple issues that we need to consider for 12.04. * When the user checks "Enable mouse clicks with touchpad", I believe the "Synaptics Locked Drags" setting should be true. Currently, when the u

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Micah Gersten
On 02/06/2012 05:49 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > On 06. feb. 2012 10:22, Jason Warner wrote: >> Hi All - >> >> Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some >> of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it >> is less interesting for Ubuntu. >> > > Y

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Alex Schoof
Is the concern that high-severity patches wont be backported from Firefox 11 (or 12 or 13 or 14...)? We should be getting high-severity patches from upstream through the ESR lifecycle ( http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/) People run their businesses on LTS releases. They need

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 6 February 2012 06:50, Jason Warner wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Viktor Basso wrote: >> >> Yes! >> The LTS should be secure, stable and supported. Not "better, faster, >> braver" as Jason pointed out. > > > And what if we could be both? ;) In fact, we can. By embracing Firefox

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Tobia Tesan
Il 06/02/2012 15:00, Alex Schoof ha scritto: The WHOLE POINT of an LTS release is that its a consistent, predictable platform where things won't just change out from under you. If I'm an admin that rolls out 12.04 across my company, and make sure everything works, maybe write some custom too

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Alex Schoof
I disagree. If organizations (or individuals) want the latest and greatest, then they'll upgrade their ubuntu every 6 months and get the newest Firefox, unity, etc. The WHOLE POINT of an LTS release is that its a consistent, predictable platform where things won't just change out from under you. I

Re: Remove unnecessary objects from the indicators (mainly messages indicator)

2012-02-06 Thread Petko
On 02/05/2012 04:56 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: On 05. feb. 2012 15:05, Petko wrote: And for Ubuntu One - I'm pretty sure its place isn't in the Messages menu . Category indicator menus are for actionable indications that belongs to a category. When I send you an invitation, it is not

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Viktor Basso
On 02/06/2012 12:50 PM, Jason Warner wrote: On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Viktor Basso wrote: Yes! The LTS should be secure, stable and supported. Not "better, faster, braver" as Jason pointed out. And what if we could be both? ;) In fact, we can. By embracing Firefox proper

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Jason Warner
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Viktor Basso wrote: > Yes! > The LTS should be secure, stable and supported. Not "better, faster, > braver" as Jason pointed out. > And what if we could be both? ;) In fact, we can. By embracing Firefox proper rather than ESR, we are getting the current browser t

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
On 06. feb. 2012 10:22, Jason Warner wrote: Hi All - Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it is less interesting for Ubuntu. You have to understand that my original post was not meant as a pr

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Viktor Basso
On Mon 06 Feb 2012 12:23:37 PM CET, Petko wrote: On 02/06/2012 12:14 PM, Viktor Basso wrote: On 02/06/2012 10:22 AM, Jason Warner wrote: Hi All - Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it is less

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Petko
On 02/06/2012 12:14 PM, Viktor Basso wrote: On 02/06/2012 10:22 AM, Jason Warner wrote: Hi All - Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it is less interesting for Ubuntu. Firefox adopted a rapid

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Viktor Basso
On 02/06/2012 10:22 AM, Jason Warner wrote: Hi All - Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it is less interesting for Ubuntu. Firefox adopted a rapid release model for various reasons, but among

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Tom Ellis
On 06/02/12 09:22, Jason Warner wrote: Hi All - Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it is less interesting for Ubuntu. Firefox adopted a rapid release model for various reasons, but among them was

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Jason Warner
Hi All - Firefox ESR is indeed interesting, and it would seem to answer some of the question corporations might have about Firefox, but I think it is less interesting for Ubuntu. Firefox adopted a rapid release model for various reasons, but among them was that they needed the browser to keep up

Re: Why don't we use Mozilla ESR in Precise?

2012-02-06 Thread Timo Aaltonen
On 04.02.2012 15:51, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: In Precise we've upgraded to version 11 of both Firefox and Thunderbird. But the reason for starting to upgrade frequently was said to be that Mozillas support periods were limited for newer versions after 3.6. But now we have the 10ESR versions of