Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Khurshid Alam
Hi, On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote: Should we even install an email client by default? The question is not whether it's useful, but whether it's useful enough to enough people to justify it being installed for everyone. There is no way to know how many

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:34 AM Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 18 April 2017 at 21:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > > > If we do include an email client, which one? > > I am worried about this, especially in the enterprise environment > people do want to access

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 18 April 2017 at 21:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > If we do include an email client, which one? I am worried about this, especially in the enterprise environment people do want to access corporate mail. I am also worried as to what will be the default URL handler for

GUADEC 2017 talk submissions close 23rd April

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Given the recent Ubuntu desktop changes I suspect we'll have some people attending GUADEC 2017 [1] this year. The talk submissions close 23rd April (i.e. in four days). Not sure if anyone knows yet if they'll be there / has something appropriate Ubuntu / GNOME related they can write up in

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
I'm supportive of not including an email client by default given the current selection. If there was a light-weight client available with good features (e.g. Geary) I think there would be a decision but the listed candidates are too big / old. I think if there's no client though there should be

Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
In 2011, we switched Ubuntu's default email client from Evolution to Thunderbird. Six years later, I think it's time to take another look. Should we even install an email client by default? The question is not whether it's useful, but whether it's useful enough to enough people to justify it

GNOME MIR List

2017-04-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
As a follow-up from today's meeting, I wrote up an initial list of universe packages we need in main and that therefore need Main Inclusion Requests (MIRs). I used a wiki so we can keep track of which MIRs have been filed and make updates to the list.

Re: Let's start discussing Ubuntu work during today's meeting

2017-04-18 Thread Michael Hall
Thanks Seb and Will for running the meeting, and to everyone who participated. If you weren't there you can find a summary and links below. # Decisions 1. Dropping patches will be done by consensus, using LP & IRC for reviews 2. Get started with a GNOME session working with apps as they are, and

Re: Let's start discussing Ubuntu work during today's meeting

2017-04-18 Thread Tim
Hey Seb, I can't make today's meeting but will endeavor to follow up on any emails. I assume jbicha will be there though. Looking forward to the more formal meeting, which hopefully can be at a slightly better time slot than the normal desktop meetings for me;) Tim PS my exodus from the

Let's start discussing Ubuntu work during today's meeting

2017-04-18 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Hey there, Due to the recent changes we are not going to have a normal team-round status update style meeting today. We are going to keep the slot (15h30UTC on IRC #ubuntu-desktop) though and start discussing a bit what should be the next steps to take to move Ubuntu Desktop to GNOME in z+1.