Re: [Merge] ~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software:ubuntu/bionic into ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software:ubuntu/bionic

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Ancell
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+git/gnome-software/+merge/358489 Your team Ubuntu Desktop is subscribed to branch ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software:ubuntu/bionic. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com

[Merge] ~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter:fix-1809407-eoan into ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/mutter:ubuntu/master

2019-08-05 Thread Robert Ancell
The proposal to merge ~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter:fix-1809407-eoan into ~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/mutter:ubuntu/master has been updated. Status: Needs review => Rejected For more details, see: https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter/+merge/368536 --

[Bug 1572456] Re: Software (gnome-software) icon shown twice inside Launcher

2017-08-30 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1572456 Title: Software (gnome-software) icon shown twice inside

Re: Ubuntu Desktop default apps Wiki page

2017-08-08 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:33 PM Jean-Baptiste Lallement < jean-baptiste.lallem...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Le 08/08/2017 à 06:02, Robert Ancell a écrit : > > Hi all, > > > > One thing that came out of discussions at GUADEC was a request that > >

Re: Ubuntu Desktop default apps Wiki page

2017-08-08 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks for the feedback Paul! On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:16 PM Paul Smith <p...@mad-scientist.net> wrote: > On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 04:02 +0000, Robert Ancell wrote: > > I've tried to summarise the status quo - feedback / changes welcome! > > I didn't understand the gnome-box

Default Apps: gnome-music and gnome-photos

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
There are two core GNOME apps that we do not currently ship: - Photos (we have Shotwell instead) - Music (we have Rhythmbox instead). Based on in-person discussions it seems likely we will continue to ship our existing apps for the immediate future because: - These apps rely on Tracker, which has

Default App: GNOME Contacts

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-contacts is an address book and is part of the core GNOME apps. It has all dependencies in main except for folks (which used to be in main). While this seems to work well in managing your e-d-s based contacts, I'm not sure if there's a particular use for it in Ubuntu. Address book

Default App: GNOME Characters

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-characters is a character browser and is part of the core GNOME apps. All its dependencies are in main. It replaces the older gucharmap that we continue to ship. gnome-characters has a GUI that fits in with the GNOME style, while gucharmap has an old fashioned interface. I found it simpler

Default App: GNOME To Do

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
gnome-todo is a task manager / note taker and is part of the core GNOME apps. All its dependencies are in main. We should ship it by default or give a reason in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DefaultApps why it should not be included. --Robert -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list

Ubuntu Desktop default apps Wiki page

2017-08-07 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, One thing that came out of discussions at GUADEC was a request that Ubuntu ship the core GNOME apps. We've also had a few discussions recently on this list about including some of these. I proposed that we should make a list of the reasons that we ship / do not ship certain apps so it

Re: Remove default app: xterm?

2017-07-23 Thread Robert Ancell
I know we previously had issues where gnome-terminal could fail to work reliably under certain bad driver cases (it was the case for virtual machines for some time). I think these issues haven't been a problem for some time though. +1 from me for removal. On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 4:34 AM Bryan

Help verifying SRUs

2017-07-17 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, I've got some SRUs that need verifying, if you have a few minutes could you have a look and check if these work for you? If you can confirm these work then change the tag on the bug from verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial (replace xenial with zesty when testing on

Re: Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-07-10 Thread Robert Ancell
e same issue? > > On 07/07/17 04:20, Robert Ancell wrote: > > Thanks for testing everyone, I've now uploaded this to xenial-proposed to > go through the SRU process. > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:34 AM Amr Ibrahim <amribrahim1...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hallo, >

Re: Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-07-06 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks for testing everyone, I've now uploaded this to xenial-proposed to go through the SRU process. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:34 AM Amr Ibrahim wrote: > Hallo, > > I am also testing gnome-software 3.20.5 in Xenial. It's working well so > far. In fact, I think it

Re: Testing GNOME Software 3.20.5 in Xenial

2017-06-22 Thread Robert Ancell
: > Hey Robert, > > Le 18/06/2017 à 12:11, Robert Ancell a écrit : > > If you are running Xenial I would love some testing of this from a PPA: > > I give it a go on my xenial/i386 installation and installing debs isn't > working, clicking on the "install" but

Re: Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:52 AM Sebastien Bacher <seb...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > Hey there, > > Le 08/06/2017 à 23:52, Robert Ancell a écrit : > > I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so it is include-able > > now gnome-shell is in main. Maps is a core GNOME ap

Re: Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
Jeremy pointed out that folks dropped out of main in artful, so that would have to go back in. On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:52 AM Robert Ancell <robert.anc...@canonical.com> wrote: > I'm going to copy Jeremy [1] and propose a new default app for 17.10... > > I'd like to propose GNOME

Re: Default App: gnome-sushi

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:13 PM Jeremy Bicha <jbi...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Robert Ancell > <robert.anc...@canonical.com> wrote: > > The functionality of Sushi seems very good but the discoverability is > > terrible. Has this be

Re: Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
GNOME Maps has been a core app since GNOME 3.20 On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:52 AM Robert Ancell <robert.anc...@canonical.com> wrote: > I'm going to copy Jeremy [1] and propose a new default app for 17.10... > > I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so it is include-able no

Re: Default App: gnome-sushi

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
The functionality of Sushi seems very good but the discoverability is terrible. Has this been raised with upstream at all? On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:33 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > Now that gnome-shell is in the default Ubuntu 17.10 daily image, I > think we could maybe start

Default App: GNOME Maps

2017-06-08 Thread Robert Ancell
I'm going to copy Jeremy [1] and propose a new default app for 17.10... I'd like to propose GNOME Maps. This uses gjs so it is include-able now gnome-shell is in main. Maps is a core GNOME app. Mapping is a standard feature of modern operating systems. By including maps we also encourage Ubuntu

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Where we are today: - GDM is undergoing a security check to be included in main [1]. - We've got GNOME Shell onto the 17.10 image, running under LightDM. - We've attempted to get the GNOME Shell lock screen running with LightDM and using GNOME Shell as a LightDM Greeter. Which this still

Re: Experience on switching to GNOME Shell

2017-05-17 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:42 PM Daniel van Vugt < daniel.van.v...@canonical.com> wrote: > > So I would log enhancement ideas in launchpad, with some tag like > 'gnome-18.04'... > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs > But that's just me. > > I agree logging things in

Experience on switching to GNOME Shell

2017-05-17 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, I've been using GNOME Shell for about a month now and I've had open a Google Doc that I've been using to list down the things that I would like to see resolved by 18.04 to ship a great experience. Now I have a bit of a list, I'm wondering what the most productive way is to use this. I'm

Re: Look ahead at GNOME 3.26

2017-04-25 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:51 PM Martin Pitt wrote: > > FTR, upstream systemd is currently converting to meson [1], and we > successfully > run builds of it both in Debian unstable as well as in Ubuntu 16.04 with > ninja+meson backports [2]. Not having debhelper support

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-21 Thread Robert Ancell
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 8:56 AM Bryan Quigley wrote: > > Lastly, I wanted to know if there are any security differences in how > the login/lock screens work? > Specifically: > Is their a process I can kill from a user session to break the lock? > If I'm able to crash

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 12:57 AM Tim wrote: > > > On 20/04/17 00:32, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > > work with lightdm > That is not entirely right, the GUI for gdm is actually a cut-down > gnome-shell

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 3:58 AM Jeremy Bicha wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Sebastien Bacher > wrote: > > - gnome-shell uses gdm for its lockscreen so work is needed to make it > > work with lightdm > > Generally, lightdm works with GNOME, but

Re: lightdm or gdm?

2017-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
Thanks Seb, = Disclaimer = Firstly, I should disclose my interests - I am the founder and maintainer of LightDM. I'll try and minimise any biases I might have. Ultimately I want the best outcome and I'm happy with either way we go as long as it makes sense. = History (simplified) = In the

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:34 AM Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 18 April 2017 at 21:07, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > > > If we do include an email client, which one? > > I am worried about this, especially in the enterprise environment > people do want to access

GUADEC 2017 talk submissions close 23rd April

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Given the recent Ubuntu desktop changes I suspect we'll have some people attending GUADEC 2017 [1] this year. The talk submissions close 23rd April (i.e. in four days). Not sure if anyone knows yet if they'll be there / has something appropriate Ubuntu / GNOME related they can write up in

Re: Proposal: (No?) email client for Ubuntu 17.10

2017-04-18 Thread Robert Ancell
I'm supportive of not including an email client by default given the current selection. If there was a light-weight client available with good features (e.g. Geary) I think there would be a decision but the listed candidates are too big / old. I think if there's no client though there should be

Re: Does GNOME Software run lintian against third-party debs before installing them?

2016-04-03 Thread Robert Ancell
It does not, please file a bug if you think that is required. On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 12:34 AM Amr Ibrahim wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Does GNOME Software run lintian against third-party debs before > installing them? I think Ubuntu Software Center used to do that. >

GNOME Software in 16.04 LTS

2016-01-15 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, As you may be aware, we're currently looking at switching from Ubuntu Software Center to GNOME Software for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS [1]. If you're interested in playing around / helping out: - I've set up a ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gnome-software [2] for which currently holds PackageKit 1.0 and GNOME

Re: Drop Ubuntu Software Centre and Adopt GNOME Software

2015-08-11 Thread Robert Ancell
For us to use GNOME Software we probably want to update to the latest version [1]. That's currently blocked because it needs PackageKit 1.0 [2]. And that's blocked until we get a Click update. If anyone knows more migration issues please add information to those bugs. I suspect we might also need

[Bug 1378188] Re: [GNOME3 Staging PPA] strange shadow rendered where client-side decorations are used

2015-02-01 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Importance: Low = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of GNOME3 Team, which is subscribed to the bug report.

[Bug 1378188] Re: [GNOME3 Staging PPA] strange shadow rendered where client-side decorations are used

2015-02-01 Thread Robert Ancell
** Description changed: - When using apps where client-side decorations are being used, a strange - shadow render appears below the window. Screenshots are attached. If - CSDs are not being used, then shadows are rendered correctly. + [Impact] + The Intel video driver has a bug that can cause to

[Bug 1378188] Re: [GNOME3 Staging PPA] strange shadow rendered where client-side decorations are used

2015-02-01 Thread Robert Ancell
The patch looks good to me and the package builds fine. I haven't uploaded since there's currently 2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.2 waiting for verification in utopic-proposed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of GNOME3 Team, which is subscribed to the bug report.

[Bug 1400002] Re: Sync gnome-mines 1:3.14.1-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2014-12-07 Thread Robert Ancell
We can't do this until we have gnome-themes-standard 3.14 and that requires GTK+ 3.14 (see bug 1399046) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/142 Title: Sync gnome-mines

[Bug 1338801] Re: Update to 3.14

2014-12-03 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: gnome-screenshot (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Artur Rona (ari-tczew) ** Changed in: gnome-screenshot (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is subscribed to the bug report.

Please test lightdm stable release 1.10.2 in trusty

2014-09-17 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, I've just uploaded LightDM 1.10.2 [1] to the ubuntu-desktop PPA so it can have some early testing. This release backports a number of important features but shouldn't change any behaviour by default. Please let me know if anyone finds any problems! Thanks, -_Robert [1]

Why do we have the glade-3 (glade 3.8) package?

2014-09-01 Thread Robert Ancell
Does anyone know why we still have the glade-3 package in the archive? This just seems to be to support an old version of glade (3.8), is that still necessary? -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop

Re: Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Adam Dingle a...@medovina.org wrote: If you replace all these apps with something else, I think that will be the largest change in Ubuntu's history - most of these apps have been around since the dawn of time and are very familiar to Ubuntu users. I'd go so far

Re: Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-15 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Jason Warner jason.war...@canonical.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Robert Park robert.p...@canonical.com wrote: What is the solution? Will we make the desktop roll? Will we subject the phone to freezes? I don't know which approach is superior

Ubuntu 14.10 onwards: Convergence is coming...

2014-04-14 Thread Robert Ancell
With 14.04 wrapping up it's time to start thinking about what we can do with the desktop post LTS. I think there's one big theme we need to focus on - Convergence. All the Unity 8 goodness that is going into the phone / tablet builds is coming our way and we need to be prepared for that migration.

Re: Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2014-02-20 Thread Robert Ancell
to catch this case but long term this dependency will go away. People upgrading using the GUI will not have this problem as the upgrader always ensures ubuntu-desktop is installed. Thanks for testing --Robert On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Hi all

Re: Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2013-12-18 Thread Robert Ancell
if there's some bad interaction with the existing language packs. --Robert [1] $ sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-desktop/unity-control-center On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.comwrote: Hi all, Ubuntu makes use of a heavily patched gnome-control-center (61 patches

Re: Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2013-12-11 Thread Robert Ancell
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Robert Ancell [2013-12-11 17:42 +1300]: Please test this PPA and post any problems in the bug report. I'd like to land this change into the archive if there are no reasons to block it. The upgrade went fine

Call for testing - unity-control-center (fork of gnome-control-center so we can stay on an old version)

2013-12-10 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, Ubuntu makes use of a heavily patched gnome-control-center (61 patches) and we will in future move to the new Ubuntu System Settings [1] once we achieve convergence. We are already running an old version of gnome-control-center (3.6) and the value for Ubuntu in upgrading this is low since

Re: Call for Testing: Mir multi-monitor

2013-08-26 Thread Robert Ancell
Instructions are here: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/debug_for_xmir.html But in short, first look at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log and then /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log if the lightdm.log indicates there is a problem with either. --Robert On Tue, Aug 27,

Re: Update on the new ibus-1.5 and gnome-settings-daemon gnome-control-center 3.6 situation

2012-11-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On 21/11/12 07:13, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Hey, I've been looking at the new ibus/g-s-d/g-c-c stack recently to update in raring and I'm not convinced it's a good idea to update to those. We have discussed the issue a bit on IRC today but I figured I would write an email to the list to

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-17 Thread Robert Ancell
On 17/10/12 18:25, Allison Randal wrote: On 10/16/2012 03:56 PM, Robert Ancell wrote: My point is we *shouldn't* take the time to update Debian as it is all cost and no benefit. If you think of Debian as being directly upstream from Ubuntu it sounds good but in reality it is a more sidestream

Re: Collaboration with Debian [was: Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review]

2012-10-17 Thread Robert Ancell
On 17/10/12 18:02, Martin Pitt wrote: Robert Ancell [2012-10-17 10:48 +1300]: - By updating packages in Debian and waiting for them to flow down to Ubuntu kills our velocity. It can change the time from upstream release to being in Ubuntu from hours (which is too long in my opinion) to days

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 16/10/12 23:47, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le 16/10/2012 06:08, Jeremy Bicha a écrit : On 15 October 2012 13:50, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote: That's going to be a controversial topic but I want to suggest we stay on stable GNOME this cycle, the reasons are (in random order):

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 16/10/12 22:36, Iain Lane wrote: Given the way that both projects are now design led, and the fact that it's design decisions / philosophies that are driving many of these difficulties, it would seem prudent for the respective design teams to try to work together a bit more closely. I

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] GNOME plans review

2012-10-16 Thread Robert Ancell
On 17/10/12 11:28, Ma Xiaojun wrote: - By leaving some packages to be fully maintained by Debian we easily end up shipping old packages without noticing it. I was quite shocked when I updated the version tracker [1] how many out of date packages we ship. If we're going to ship a quality

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] Default file manager

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14/10/12 08:33, Dylan McCall wrote: Before talking about file managers, people should talk about how Unity fits with the direction GNOME applications are going. Because that is the problem: Unity has a very different vision for how applications should work than the GNOME project, which it

Re: [Desktop13.04-Topic] Drop gconf from the default installation

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Ancell
On 09/10/12 03:58, Sebastien Bacher wrote: It seems we could finally get ride of libgconf2-4 users next cycle That would be a great package to finally bury :) +100 -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop

Re: System compositor progress

2012-07-13 Thread Robert Ancell
On 14/07/12 03:49, John Lenton wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, We're now at the point where the system compositor [1] is starting to work. Any brave souls who want to start playing with this can have a look at the instructions

Re: System compositor progress

2012-07-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 12/07/12 23:00, Jonas Platte wrote: Am 12.07.2012, 06:58 Uhr, schrieb Christopher James Halse Rogers r...@ubuntu.com: On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 18:04 +1200, Robert Ancell wrote: Hi, We're now at the point where the system compositor [1] is starting to work. Any brave souls who want to start

System compositor progress

2012-07-11 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi, We're now at the point where the system compositor [1] is starting to work. Any brave souls who want to start playing with this can have a look at the instructions in the blueprint. Obviously THIS IS HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL, so play at your own risk! In saying that, early feedback is most welcome

[Desktop 12.10 Topic] System compositor

2012-04-19 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi, A change I'd like to make for 12.10 is to use a compositor to control video from boot to shutdown. This gives us the following benefits: - We can have smooth transitions from the splash screen to the greeter to the session and back again - We don't use VT switching anymore which has been

[Bug 676578] Re: Support projects, not just Ubuntu packages

2012-01-17 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: launchpad-integration Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: launchpad-integration Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: launchpad-integration (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided =

Re: Login and lock screen dialog should be the same

2011-12-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 07/12/11 21:49, Steffen Holanger wrote: Hi. I posted this idea on brainstorm. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/28767/ I was told to forward it to this mailing list. The description of the problem/idea is in the link. Cheers Steffen That is the plan for 12.04:

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Handling Failure Gracefully

2011-10-25 Thread Robert Ancell
Late topic... In the real world there are always going to be failures, triggered by things like software bugs, hardware failures and misconfiguration. Ubuntu should where possible handle common failures and provide predictable feedback to the user that the system is broken. I think we have the

Re: [Desktop12.04-Topic] Wayland tech preview

2011-10-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 06/10/11 18:35, Bryce Harrington wrote: On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 03:33:32PM +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: It would be nice to be able to optionally run Wayland in 12.04 to try out the technology. This will involve: - Modifying LightDM to support Wayland - Writing a Wayland compositor Would

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Improved Authentication

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
It would be nice to improve the authentication mechanisms in Ubuntu to be more user friendly and make it easier to enable modern authentication schemes. This will probably involve: - Reviewing the messages/prompts in PAM for appropriateness - Adding hints to PAM to allow GUIs to better display

[Desktop12.04-Topic] Wayland tech preview

2011-10-04 Thread Robert Ancell
It would be nice to be able to optionally run Wayland in 12.04 to try out the technology. This will involve: - Modifying LightDM to support Wayland - Writing a Wayland compositor - Running an X server that writes to the compositor - Making it easy to enable this - Disclaiming all responsibility

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-11 Thread Robert Ancell
On 09/07/11 19:23, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: 1. For users who change display language once in a while - for whatever reason - it provides a more convenient way for doing so than doing it from the Language Support UI or its successor. There is a fresh bug report about it, btw:

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 05/07/11 19:11, Oliver Grawert wrote: Note that this doesn't necessarily have to be implemented in the greeter, i.e. you can run zenity in the guest accounts .profile and that prompts the user on login for language. Or you can make multiple sessions for each installed language, i.e. there

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 21:57, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On Mon, 2011-07-04 at 12:44 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: From what I've gathered talking to people the classes of user are: 1. Users who set the system language at install/first boot time, and never change it (the vast majority) 2. English as a second

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 20:11, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: Robert Ancell wrote on 04/07/11 03:44: If you change the display language within a session, it does not take effect in that session, but only after you have logged out and logged in again. The language setting is one of the few things

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/11 21:00, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: I take it that you would like to see a solid base for decision that we do not have access to. Given that, to me the natural conclusion is that Ubuntu keeps providing the feature for now. For a feature to exist, it needs a justification. I see no

Re: Language chooser at login

2011-07-03 Thread Robert Ancell
I've cc'd in Mika and John, who worked on the design of the new greeter (not the greeter that is currently delivered with Oneiric) and Charline who does user testing as they will probably have good opinions on this feature. I'm of the opinion that we should keep providing a language chooser

Re: Reports for Desktop Bugs

2011-06-15 Thread Robert Ancell
Nice work! I'd recommend adding a Development tab that tracks development packages. I had this problem with the versions page in that it automatically tracks packages on the CD, but not the packages that were used to build them. Things like intltool which are just as critical as the

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-09 Thread Robert Ancell
On 06/07/2011 08:03 PM, Matthew East wrote: On 7 June 2011 10:02, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: yeah, I would very much hope that lightdm does not introduce more accessibility regressions. I'm taking this opportunity to post a link to this comment on the proposed switch to lightDM from

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 06/06/2011 10:30 PM, Kevin Huang wrote: On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 18:01 +1000, Robert Ancell wrote: This feature is just not implemented yet. It will be in Oneiric. Any target date that loco can start to test? Definitely by Beta, ideally by A2. -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-07 Thread Robert Ancell
This feature is just not implemented yet. It will be in Oneiric. Good to know, Robert. Are you able to say something about e.g. the keyboard layout and universal access? This is an area where I'm definitely not an expert, and your help is greatly appreciated here! Most of my knowledge has

Re: Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-06 Thread Robert Ancell
a tracker for the upstream project ( https://launchpad.net/lightdm)? Thanks. -Stenten On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com mailto:robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Hi all, As LightDM is scheduled to be the default display manager in Oneric

Call for testing: LightDM

2011-06-02 Thread Robert Ancell
Hi all, As LightDM is scheduled to be the default display manager in Oneric by Alpha 2 it would be awesome if we can get as many testers as possible, so please be a guinea pig! If you are using Oneric you can install it from Universe: $ sudo apt-get install lightdm lightdm-greeter-example-gtk

[Bug 699893] Re: AisleRiot: Card style will not install properly

2011-06-01 Thread Robert Ancell
Note that aisleriot has been split out of GNOME Games for the 3.1 release, so it's important that this change is made to the new aisleriot package when it is packaged. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a bug assignee.

Re: Proposing to add Rodrigo Moya to ~ubuntu-desktop

2011-04-20 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/20/2011 06:44 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello all, Rodrigo has worked in the desktop team for several months now, and will continue to do so. In my experience he has picked up all the necessary packaging skills, is familiar with our processes, freezes, revision control handling, and our

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/12/2011 01:55 AM, James Westby wrote: On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:36:51 +1000, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Some issues that will remain: - It is possible to screw up the branches so that bzr merge-package throws a confusing error (I keep doing it). Perhaps we need some

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/12/2011 03:09 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le lundi 11 avril 2011 à 10:36 +1000, Robert Ancell a écrit : So, I propose that we move all the current packaging branches to using lp:ubuntu/package_name branches. We have a few branches using this mode and have had good success with them

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/12/2011 06:34 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Robert Ancell [2011-04-11 10:36 +1000]: - People are often ignoring the branches and uploading directly (or forgetting do a bzr push) which means changes are sometimes dropped by accident - People often do merge requests to lp:ubuntu/package_name

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/11/2011 01:39 PM, James Westby wrote: On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:02:35 +1000, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Last cycle I proposed using LightDM to replace GDM [1]. It was deferred due to the Unity work, so time to repropose! The main reasons for switching

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/11/2011 07:30 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2011, Robert Ancell wrote: - Speed improvements - we can run a greeter without running a full GNOME session Running a full GNOME session sounds like a waste, but it kind of makes sense to run a mini-session to start the essential

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3

2011-04-12 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/12/2011 05:31 AM, Javier Jardón wrote: On 8 April 2011 00:23, Robert Ancell robert.anc...@canonical.com wrote: Can we get all our CD applications using GTK3? I'm thinking of Firefox here, we really don't want to have one or two applications requiring both packages on the CD.. FYI

[Oneiric-Topic] Packaging branches

2011-04-10 Thread Robert Ancell
We currently maintain most Ubuntu Desktop packages in bzr branches and use bzr-builddeb in merge mode [1] with packaging stored in lp:~ubuntu-desktop/package_name/ubuntu. The other option was to use normal mode [2], but this was not chosen at the time due to the size of checkouts. My experience

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] LightDM for display management

2011-04-10 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/08/2011 07:42 PM, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: Le vendredi 08 avril 2011 à 19:04 +0930, Jason Warner a écrit : Thanks for proposing this. I'm particularly interested in any and all speed improvements that could come from this...and if we have less overhead in general, great! If you're

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3

2011-04-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/2011 05:59 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello all, kind of obvious topic, but next cycle we'll need to move to GTK3 and GNOME3. Aside from the obvious update the package versions, I see the following particular challenges: * Review our patches, and be rather aggressive about removing

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] Reducing number of patches in our packages

2011-04-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/2011 09:23 PM, Rodrigo Moya wrote: Priority: medium? While working on the GNOME3 PPA during this cycle, I found we have a lot of patches in many packages, which makes things harder when upgrading to major versions, and also introduces new ways for the apps to fail, as the fixes are

Re: [Oneiric-Topic] GTK3/GNOME3

2011-04-07 Thread Robert Ancell
On 04/07/2011 05:59 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: Hello all, kind of obvious topic, but next cycle we'll need to move to GTK3 and GNOME3. Aside from the obvious update the package versions, I see the following particular challenges: * Review our patches, and be rather aggressive about removing

[Bug 722491] Re: evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in send_dbus_message()

2011-03-10 Thread Robert Ancell
Note, you should be able to workaround this problem by going to EditPlugins, then select the Mail Notification plugin, and disable Generate a D-Bus message in the configuration tab. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a bug assignee.

[Bug 722491] Re: evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in send_dbus_message()

2011-03-09 Thread Robert Ancell
** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Status: Opinion = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a bug assignee. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/722491 Title: evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in send_dbus_message() -- ubuntu-desktop

[Bug 722491] Re: evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in send_dbus_message()

2011-02-22 Thread Robert Ancell
Can you reproduce this problem? Can you run evolution from the terminal and see what output is printed? It appears what might be happening is the email doesn't contain valid UTF-8, and dbus/gvariant doesn't handle this case. ** Changed in: evolution (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu

New GTK3 package naming

2011-02-21 Thread Robert Ancell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, You may have noticed that the GTK3 packages have been renamed to match their new library names (e.g. libgtk3.0-0 is not libgtk-3-0). This matches what Debian has implemented in Debian experimental. This will be a transition period where

Re: GNOME Shell has been removed from the repositories?

2011-02-20 Thread Robert Ancell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This was driven by the following issues: - - We're not delivering the GNOME3 applications in Natty, so we moved them to a PPA [1]. This was due to us not having the time to do a good job on both Unity and GNOME3. - - To have GNOME Shell in

[Bug 700370] Re: Please rename gir1.2-mutter-2.31 to gir1.2-mutter-2.91

2011-01-13 Thread Robert Ancell
Closing as fixed as we are syncing mutter from Debian. ** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu) Status: New = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/700370 Title: Please rename

Re: Ubuntu Desktop weekly meetings

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Ancell
it? - --Robert On 18/11/10 10:50, Robert Ancell wrote: Today in the Eastern Edition of the Desktop meeting we discussed the structure and purpose of the weekly Desktop meetings. I'll try and summarise some of the points raised and propose some ideas. While the current meetings are working well, some

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