Re: Why is Tomboy permissible in the default Ubuntu Desktop?

2009-12-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2009/12/27 Emilio López :
> I wonder the same. I don't even take notes, and if I were to take, I
> would use something simpler, like Gedit.

Oh, I did that for years and I'm really not missing those days. Having
all my notes in one application, automatically synced with my phone,
other computers and webservice, is much better for me than using
.txt-files on some desktop.

> Also, from all the Ubuntu users I know, none of them actually take
> notes. They are all "home users", maybe a note-taking app is more
> enterprise-oriented? And if this is the case, maybe the evolution tool
> for that is more useful and more integrated with the rest of the tools
> they use?
> Like Jo-Erlend Schinstad, I'll also be glad to know why is Tomboy
> still in the default install.
>
> --
> Emilio López

In my personal life, I take notes all the time. _All the time_. This question
has been in my Evolution memos for a while, until I converted it to a
task and finally decided to empty the task list by the end of the year.
Using notes, tasks and calendars properly, really has improved my life.
I hope everyone who doesn't use these tools, learn to do so in the new
year. I'm sure they'll feel as I do :)

In other words, I'm not in any way proposing that we don't need a notes
manager. I'm simply curious what makes Tomboy a valid exception to the
rule of one application per feature, that's so integral to Ubuntu design
philosophy.

Jo-Erlend Schinstad

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Re: Why is Tomboy permissible in the default Ubuntu Desktop?

2009-12-27 Thread Emilio López
I wonder the same. I don't even take notes, and if I were to take, I
would use something simpler, like Gedit. I even created a brainstorm
idea, but it failed to get any reviewer approvals, and it was closed:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22601/
Also, from all the Ubuntu users I know, none of them actually take
notes. They are all "home users", maybe a note-taking app is more
enterprise-oriented? And if this is the case, maybe the evolution tool
for that is more useful and more integrated with the rest of the tools
they use?
Like Jo-Erlend Schinstad, I'll also be glad to know why is Tomboy
still in the default install.

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2009/12/27 Jo-Erlend Schinstad :
> I've never used Tomboy much myself. To me, it seems like a cool
> prototype, showing what's possible, but for my daily note management, I
> use Evolution. And that's where my question pops up: an important part
> of Ubuntus design philosophy, is that there should be only one
> application per feature. As I understand it, that's the reason why we
> don't have any special application for RSS-feeds, for instance, since
> Firefox already supports feeds and is installed by default. What is the
> reasoning behind making Tomboy an exception to this rule? I would think
> that adding Liferea for feed management, would be less overlapping than
> adding another note manager besides Evolution? I've always accepted not
> having a good feed manager by default, because I feel that the concept
> of not having overlapping features in different applications has more
> positive sides than negative. But I really don't understand what makes
> Tomboy so special that it warrants an exception to this rule.
>
> I'm not looking to fire up a discussion about Mono or anything like
> that, though that dependency makes the exception even stranger to me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
>
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Why is Tomboy permissible in the default Ubuntu Desktop?

2009-12-27 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I've never used Tomboy much myself. To me, it seems like a cool
prototype, showing what's possible, but for my daily note management, I
use Evolution. And that's where my question pops up: an important part
of Ubuntus design philosophy, is that there should be only one
application per feature. As I understand it, that's the reason why we
don't have any special application for RSS-feeds, for instance, since
Firefox already supports feeds and is installed by default. What is the
reasoning behind making Tomboy an exception to this rule? I would think
that adding Liferea for feed management, would be less overlapping than
adding another note manager besides Evolution? I've always accepted not
having a good feed manager by default, because I feel that the concept
of not having overlapping features in different applications has more
positive sides than negative. But I really don't understand what makes
Tomboy so special that it warrants an exception to this rule. 

I'm not looking to fire up a discussion about Mono or anything like
that, though that dependency makes the exception even stranger to me. 

Thanks, 

Jo-Erlend Schinstad


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