Re: [lsb-discuss] [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-26 Thread keld
I would relly like the dscussion to go on widely as it is now. Otherwise I would probably not follow this interesting discussion. best regards keld On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:02:09PM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > russell, good to hear from you. > > can i recommend, that although t

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-26 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
russell, good to hear from you. can i recommend, that although this is a really wide set of cross-posting on a discussion that underpins pretty much everything (except gnu/hurd and minix) because it's linux kernel, that, just as steve kindly advised, we keep this to e.g. cross-dis...@lists.linaro.

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-26 Thread Bill Gatliff
Russell: On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:11:41AM -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote: >> As such refactoring consolidated larger and larger chunks of kernel >> code, new designs would gravitate towards those consolidated >> implementations beca

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-26 Thread Russell King - ARM Linux
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:11:41AM -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote: > As such refactoring consolidated larger and larger chunks of kernel > code, new designs would gravitate towards those consolidated > implementations because they would be the dominant references. Don't bet on it. That's not how it wo

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-26 Thread Bill Gatliff
David: On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:55 PM, wrote: > ARM is currently in worse shape than the PC market ever was in this aspect, > but in this case it's less a matter of getting the hardware guys to change > what they do than it is to get better documentation of what the hardware is > really doing a

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-24 Thread david
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Bill Gatliff wrote: I have observed all the hand-wringing regarding the state of ARM Linux, and it's obvious to everyone that there is still work to be done. ARM isn't like PCs, and that's obviously inconvenient for Linus but it's an essential part of ARM's success. I thi

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Gatliff
Luke: Step back from the keyboard just a bit. :) It's true that the glass isn't completely full--- but it's pretty darned full! And we wouldn't be discussing the various GPL and other violations that you cite were it not for the overwhelming successes of Free Software, ARM, Linux, and Android.

Re: ARM 3D support was Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:00:43 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: [ok i'm going to do another cross-post in a bit which will give some background and also perhaps some other topics for discussion, but i wanted to cover this first. apologies for people for whom this is just noise] On Tue,

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >Hi folks, > >Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, >I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers >conference [1]. I'm hoping for a slot on Thursday evening, but this >remains to be con

Re: ARM 3D support was Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
[ok i'm going to do another cross-post in a bit which will give some background and also perhaps some other topics for discussion, but i wanted to cover this first. apologies for people for whom this is just noise] On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:01 PM, wrote: >>  the xilinx zynq-7000 or similar (du

Re: ARM 3D support was Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-23 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 08/23/2011 07:01 PM, omall...@msu.edu wrote: Quoting Gordan Bobic : Unfortunately there is no way I could make it, but on the subject of 3D support on ARM, Luke recently mentioned something that initially seemed outlandish but upon closer examination doesn't seem like a bad idea. As we all kn

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-23 Thread Gordan Bobic
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:11:34 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 07:15:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hi folks, Following on from the founding of the cross-distro ARM mailing list, I'd like to propose an ARM summit at this year's Linux Plumbers conference [1]. I'm hoping fo

ARM 3D support was Re: [fedora-arm] ARM summit at Plumbers 2011

2011-08-23 Thread omalleys
Quoting Gordan Bobic : Unfortunately there is no way I could make it, but on the subject of 3D support on ARM, Luke recently mentioned something that initially seemed outlandish but upon closer examination doesn't seem like a bad idea. As we all know, the state of openness of specifications o