Re: jubany: Importer stopped

2012-04-26 Thread Max Bowsher
On 26/04/12 22:38, Max Bowsher wrote:
 I've stopped the importer. It needs to be taught about quantal before it can 
 proceed:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /srv/package-import.canonical.com/new/scripts/bin/import-package, 
 line 7, in module
 main()
   File 
 /srv/package-import.canonical.com/new/scripts/udd/scripts/import_package.py,
  line 1177, in main
 only_before=options.only_before))
   File 
 /srv/package-import.canonical.com/new/scripts/udd/scripts/import_package.py,
  line 1045, in _import_package
 versions = get_versions(lp, package, extra_debian=extra_debian)
   File 
 /srv/package-import.canonical.com/new/scripts/udd/scripts/import_package.py,
  line 257, in get_versions
 vlist.sort()
   File /srv/package-import.canonical.com/new/scripts/udd/icommon.py, line 
 265, in sort
 self.plist.sort(cmp=PackageToImport.import_order_comparator)
   File /srv/package-import.canonical.com/new/scripts/udd/icommon.py, line 
 240, in import_order_comparator
 b_release = import_sequence_distro_releases[b.distro].index(b.release)
 ValueError: list.index(x): x not in list
 

Someone appears to have restarted it without fixing the problem.

I've stopped it again.

Max.




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Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS Release

2012-04-26 Thread Scott Lavender
The Ubuntu Studio team is very pleased to announce the release of Ubuntu
Studio 12.04 LTS (Long-Term Support), Codenamed Precise Pangolin.

Ubuntu Studio, the Ubuntu flavour designed with content creation in mind
for creative individuals.  This release is produced as a live DVD image
that can also be converted to an USB stick and will be supported for 3
years.

Due to overwhelming improvements during this development cycle, the The
Ubuntu Studio Team is very proud and excited to have users experience
Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS.

New features include:
 * Live-DVD
 * GUI-based installation
 * lowlatency kernel installed by default
 * i386 images use the lowlatency-pae kernel
 * XFCE is default desktop environment
 * Pulse Audio - JACK bridging enabled by default
 * New theme, icons, and default font
 * New LightDM and Desktop background/backdrop images
 * Documented work flows/new application choices provide better user support
 * Menu restructured for better work flow support
 * ARandR included for improved multi-monitor functionality
 * mudita24 replaces envycontrol24 for ice1712 chip audio interfaces
 * Long Term Support release (3 years)

Lastly, the Ubuntu Studio website is currently under complete development
and is expected to be release within weeks. Please bear with our current
website until then.

For more information please see:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/12.04release_notes


Warmest Regards,
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Re: Ubuntu Studio 12.04 LTS Release

2012-04-26 Thread Len Ovens

On Thu, April 26, 2012 12:19 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

  * Pulse Audio - JACK bridging enabled by default [snip]

 ... Bridging? = No issues for 10 IOs?

There are issues with bridging and they get worse as the latency goes
down. At -p 1024 there don't seem to be any problems. By -p 128 the bridge
uses the same cpu % that jack uses. (on my machine jack is 5% at idle,
with the PA-jack bridge 11%) By -p 32 the PA bridge uses double the cpu %
that jack does. (jack at about 12%, jack with bridge 30% +)

Our next trick will be to enable switching it off and on. PA uses very
little cpu with bridging turned off. The main use (as I see) for PA-jack
bridging is for recording the output of apps that are PA only. For example
recording a phone interview on skype (I have heard a number of podcasts
done like that). Any other use is really not needed. If one is watching
youtube... they really don't need jack running at all. PA is just fine for
that. In some ways it would be nicer to have it off by default and only
turn it on when needed.

My other comment is that the few times PA-jack is needed, it can probably
be run at a higher latency anyway.

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Re: Screensaver in Quantal

2012-04-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher

Le 26/04/2012 03:27, Benjamin Kerensa a écrit :
I was wondering if anyone had given thought to re-implementing 
Screensaver in Quantal. I know that there was at one point a spec

to re-implement Screensaver for Gnome 3.

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-screensaver

It seems to me that this could have been a potentially good feature to 
have shipped in Precise but going forward is this something that
Ubuntu will offer to the end user? 

Hi,

We would like really much to get that feature back, it has not made on 
the schedule previous cycles simply because we had higher priority 
things on our list, which is likely going to be the case again next 
cycle. If somebody is interested to work on that and need guidance feel 
free to step in and contact us though, we can probably help and we will 
be happy to do reviews and include it in the desktop once it's ready.


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Re: upstart beyond Ubuntu 12.04

2012-04-26 Thread Olav Vitters
 [ removed upstart-devel as I am not subscribed + don't want to start a
   upstart vs systemd thread ]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:23:45PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 At UDS-O in Budapest a year ago, there was much discussion about the future
 of the plumbing stack in Ubuntu; with buzz about systemd and about GNOME
 changing to depend on it, many asked if Ubuntu would stick with upstart or
 switch to systemd.  The decision at the time was to stick with upstart
 through 12.04, and revisit the question after that.

Some new functionality indeed depends on it (GDM multi seat). Other than
that the idea is more about interfaces, though that might cause
difficulties (e.g. if not communicated well what is depended upon like
the timezone stuff).

 A switch to systemd would mean a whole new round of distribution integration
 bugs to keep us occupied between now and 14.04.
[..]
 Sticking with upstart presents its own set of challenges; if other
 distributions adopt native systemd units for starting services, we will be
 less able to share work with those distributions.  That would be
 unfortunate, but compared with destabilizing the core of Ubuntu for several
 cycles while we shake out a new set of bugs, this certainly seems the lesser
 evil.

Nod.

 The Ubuntu Foundations team has committed to supporting upstart going
 forward beyond 12.04, and working to ensure it meets the needs of Ubuntu and
 flavors on desktops, servers and beyond.  I look forward to talking with
 folks at UDS next month about this topic.

I'm interested to know if:
- Upstart will stay forever
- Upstart vs systemd will be decided again in e.g. 6 months time or a
  multiple of that
- What would make systemd acceptable?
- If decided that systemd is possibly ok, what help is needed (e.g.
  expertise, knowledge in Debian, etc)?

To be clear: I don't really care about systemd vs upstart. My slight
preference for systemd as it could allow to remove some GNOME code (in
gnome-session) and because Mageia uses it.

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Re: Planning for Quantal: Boost

2012-04-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 06:52:04PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
 The current upstream Boost release is 1.49.  This is also the default in 
 Debian.  We should transition to that as the default for Quantal when archive 
 is set up (before general uploading starts).

Makes sense.  I'll let you know when you can upload.

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Re: upstart beyond Ubuntu 12.04

2012-04-26 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Olav,

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:32:23AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote:
 Some new functionality indeed depends on it (GDM multi seat). Other than
 that the idea is more about interfaces, though that might cause
 difficulties (e.g. if not communicated well what is depended upon like
 the timezone stuff).

Yes, we are very interested in making sure we get the interfaces right.

  The Ubuntu Foundations team has committed to supporting upstart going
  forward beyond 12.04, and working to ensure it meets the needs of Ubuntu and
  flavors on desktops, servers and beyond.  I look forward to talking with
  folks at UDS next month about this topic.

 I'm interested to know if:
 - Upstart will stay forever

Nothing in software is forever, but this is not a decision that we plan to
revisit.  We believe, as we have since its first deployment, that upstart is
the right boot architecture for Linux both now and in the future.  And
contrary to the hype, upstart has a significant head start on systemd now in
terms of real-world burn-in, which isn't going away.  If there are no
compelling reasons to switch to systemd now, I don't think it's realistic to
think that's going to change in the future.

 - Upstart vs systemd will be decided again in e.g. 6 months time or a
   multiple of that

It would be a very large multiple.

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Re: Tor application-firewall support

2012-04-26 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 09:03:19AM -0400, John Moser wrote:
 Aside, has anyone considered that actively aiding a sovereign
 nation's population in accessing materials restricted from the
 general population's view is an active attack on that nation's
 procedurally declared national security, and a direct act of war?
 Not defending tyranny, just saying:  you are committing an act of
 war.  If we have extradition treaties with these people, it's
 perfectly reasonable for you to be arrested and shipped over there;
 and if our government refuses to do so, then the logical response in
 kind is for them to start bombing our soil.

It's good practice for what we'll one day have to do to evade
the US police state that the last two administrations have been
building up as fast as they can.


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