Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

2017-09-29 Thread Marcos Alano 
What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
release? ESR someday was a latest release.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Olivier Tilloy
 wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>> Dear all!
>>
>> Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?
>
> This has been discussed this week in New York, and the desktop team
> doesn't have the resources to commit to packaging and maintaining
> Firefox ESR, unfortunately.
>
>
>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:
>>>
>>> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
>>> Debian in this commit. Can you please shine some light on why this change
>>> was made? Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:

 Dear Ubuntu developers!

 For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR is needed.
 It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions.

 This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-firefox-esr
 and
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04
 ).
 There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).

 For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
 We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
 user experience and without security vulnerabilities.

 Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
 https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
 for all supported versions.

 Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
 You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
 firefox-esr package too.


 With best regards,
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

2017-09-29 Thread Olivier Tilloy 
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
> Dear all!
>
> Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?

This has been discussed this week in New York, and the desktop team
doesn't have the resources to commit to packaging and maintaining
Firefox ESR, unfortunately.


> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:
>>
>> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
>> Debian in this commit. Can you please shine some light on why this change
>> was made? Thanks!
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>>>
>>> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR is needed.
>>> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions.
>>>
>>> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-firefox-esr
>>> and
>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04
>>> ).
>>> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>>>
>>> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
>>> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
>>> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>>>
>>> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
>>> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
>>> for all supported versions.
>>>
>>> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
>>> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
>>> firefox-esr package too.
>>>
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>> Norbert.
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

2017-09-29 Thread James Henstridge 
On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano  wrote:
> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> release? ESR someday was a latest release.

It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more difficult to
maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
simultaneously.

James.

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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

2017-09-29 Thread Marcos Alano 
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 5:04 PM, James Henstridge
 wrote:
> On 29 September 2017 at 11:43, Marcos Alano  wrote:
>> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
>> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
>
> It's not really a question of whether Firefox-ESR is more difficult to
> maintain than Firefox.  Rather, the comparison is between the
> maintaining Firefox and maintaining both Firefox and Firefox-ESR
> simultaneously.
>
Understood. I think we need to do is ask some tough questions to find
a way to finally make available the firefox-esr.
Someone already asks a question I think it's very tough: how firefox
and firefox-esr can live together? Maybe just a different namespace
with /etc/alternatives symlinks. Actually could be a good idea because
allows more integration with Firefox Beta and Firefox Nightly provided
by Mozilla Team. Mozilla Nightly is in a different namespace, but Beta
updates the stable version which isn't a good way since I can't test
beta without lose stable.


> James.



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git-ubuntu 0.2.2 now available in the stable and edge channels

2017-09-29 Thread Nish Aravamudan 
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Nish Aravamudan
 wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> * Changes from 0.1 to 0.2:
>
> - a LXD container is used by default with `git ubuntu build`/`git
> ubuntu build-source` in order for build-dependencies to be installed
> and `./debian/rules clean` to run. For now, we assume LXD is already
> configured. If LXD is not desired, --no-lxd can be passed to
> build/build-source.
>
> - The snap versioning is derived from the git tags and hashes.
>
> - `git ubuntu lint` no longer clobbers the working tree
>
> - Significant snap refactoring (our original intent was to release 0.2
> last week, but this took a week to get done). The snap is now built on
> 16.04, rather than 17.10. Much of the dependencies are built from
> source rather than using archive packages.
>
> Changes from 0.2 to 0.2.1 (necessary because I jumped the gun on releasing 
> 0.2):
>
> - `git ubuntu merge` works in testing with the updated snap.

Apologies for the rapid turnaround. I ran into a few issues kicking
off the import job that runs regularly, due to the snap restructuring.

* Changes from 0.2.1 to 0.2.2:

- Bump launchpadlib dependency to 1.10.5 to fix an error with oauth on
first-run.

- Build xdelta from source.

- Build launchpadlib from source to patch in a workaround for a
encoding error (LP: #1709573 and LP: #1685962 for context and tracking
it in upstream launchpadlib.)

- Fix snap install of xdelta3.

- Fix snap install of xz-utils.

Thanks,
Nish


> * General notes:
>
> - Our hope is to do an update of the edge snap every week (this week
> was lost due to the snap issues), at the same time the old edge snap
> will get promoted to stable, so weekly updates. So although the snaps
> report different versions in the store (due to git-merges after
> backporting bugfixes to snap/stable), they are contentfully identical
> (verifiable by `git diff snap/stable snap/edge` in the git-ubuntu
> repository).
>
> - Report bugs / feature requests, etc at:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer!
>
> - I hope to spend some time next week getting a Trello board set up
> that will have a better overview of the bug roadmap for 1.0.
>
> - To install git-ubuntu:
>
> sudo snap install --classic git-ubuntu
>
> - To install the edge snap (only recommended for experienced
> developers, as it might break :):
>
> sudo snap install --classic --edge git-ubuntu
>
> - To setup the manpage lookup via our snapped manpage vieiwer:
>
> edit ~/.gitconfig with the following contents:
>
> [man "git-ubuntu-man"]
> cmd = git-ubuntu.man
> [man]
> viewer = git-ubuntu-man
> viewer = man

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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

2017-09-29 Thread Matthias Klose 
It is my understanding that having a Firefox ESR package in Ubuntu,

 - you need to have a distribution agreement with Mozilla.

 - you commit to keep the esr packages up to date, bot in development
   versions, and at least in LTS releases.

 - you use a separate namespace than the firefox packages currently
   found in Ubuntu.

If all preconditions above are met, then we probably can remove the blacklist
entry, but I assume that would be an always-merge package.

Matthias


On 29.09.2017 17:43, Marcos Alano wrote:
> What is the difference between keep the latest release and a ESR
> release? ESR someday was a latest release.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 9:40 AM, Olivier Tilloy
>  wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>>> Dear all!
>>>
>>> Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?
>>
>> This has been discussed this week in New York, and the desktop team
>> doesn't have the resources to commit to packaging and maintaining
>> Firefox ESR, unfortunately.
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:

 Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
 Debian in this commit. Can you please shine some light on why this change
 was made? Thanks!

 On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>
> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>
> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR is needed.
> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions.
>
> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-package-to-install-firefox-esr
> and
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04
> ).
> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>
> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>
> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see
> https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr)
> for all supported versions.
>
> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
> firefox-esr package too.
>
>
> With best regards,
> Norbert.
>
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Re: Firefox ESR package is really needed

2017-09-29 Thread Nrbrtx 
Dear all!

Do you have any news about packaging Firefox ESR in supported Ubuntu?


With best regards,
Norbert.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Logan Rosen  wrote:

> Matthias, it looks like you added firefox-esr to the sync blacklist from
> Debian in this commit
> .
> Can you please shine some light on why this change was made? Thanks!
>
> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Nrbrtx  wrote:
>
>> Dear Ubuntu developers!
>>
>> For enterprise Ubuntu users Firefox ESR
>>  is needed.
>> It does not change too fast and support old "LEGACY" extensions
>> 
>> .
>>
>> This problem was discussed at least twice on AskUbuntu (see
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/305199/is-there-a-deb-packag
>> e-to-install-firefox-esr and https://askubuntu.com/question
>> s/505895/how-can-i-install-an-older-version-of-firefox-in-ubuntu-14-04 ).
>> There is a bug about this problem on Launchpad (see
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1676164).
>>
>> For example in Windows my organization uses Firefox ESR.
>> We do not need bells and whistles, we need to do our work with stable
>> user experience and without security vulnerabilities.
>>
>> Debian already has Firefox ESR (see https://packages.debian.org/se
>> arch?suite=all=1=names=firefox-esr) for all
>> supported versions.
>>
>> Please add these packages to all supported Ubuntu versions.
>> You may want to use bleeding edge version as default, but please add
>> firefox-esr package too.
>>
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Norbert.
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 125, Issue 1

2017-09-29 Thread Helios Martinez Dominguez 
Greetings.

I write to acknowledge of an apparently important issue concerning
long-term kernel, addressed more completely at
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2017/Sep/72, issue which apparently
makes un-patched kernels vulnerable to priviledge scalation. Such kernels
could include, although not necessarily, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-studio
kernels. Thanks in advance.

I take the advantage to suggest the inclusion of arpon
 service natively on ubuntu-base and
ubuntu-studio kernels providing stronger security measures about ARP
poisoning and ARP spoofing vulnerabilities commonly found due to protocol
issue concerns. I myself have found quite better network performance by
executing arpon daemon services within each network node, for each
interface, including lo.

I have not been able to test Artful yet, nevertheless ISO file has been
already downloaded and will be tested by me as soon as possible, providing
feedback at availability.

Happy weekend.



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