Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Blaise Alleyne
Markus Hitter wrote: Am 13.12.2007 um 08:41 schrieb Mackenzie Morgan: Until CD drives go the way of 5.25 floppy drives, I think we need to keep install CDs around. Making DVD isos with more stuff available is fine, but the main part of the distro should fit on a CD. What about a

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Michael R. Head
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: So let's use that as a dividing line; let's keep the 32-bit x86 disks as CDs, BUT... let's switch the 64-bit disks to DVDs. It's not uncommon for some servers to come with just a CD ROM drive (I manage a Dell PowerEdge running 64-bit

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
But server install and desktop install are really different. The server install disk wouldn't need to have even half of what the regular install disk has because you don't need any of that GUI junk on a server. On Dec 13, 2007 3:51 AM, Michael R. Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu,

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
It makes me think more of those add-on packs or booster packs...whatever they call them...with video games. You know, there's The Sims and then you add on Vacation and Hot Date and Makin' Magic and whatever else they had? On Dec 13, 2007 3:46 AM, Blaise Alleyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Dec 13, 2007 2:36 AM, Conrad Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the 32-bit CDs, let's have a fully functional install on a single CD. We can freeze the apps at roughly the current set and any new ones can be put in an 'ubuntu-extras' metapackage. 32-bit users can install the package (by

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Gaele Strootman
Chris Jones wrote: -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:06:18 -0600 From: Conrad Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?) To: Ubuntu Developer Discussion Mailing List

Re: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2007-12-13 Thread Kevin Fries
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 18:51 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 2:36 PM, Kevin Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So going the other way from removing Mono, are there any mono-based libre software apps in the repos you'd like to see moved onto the default desktop? Not specifically. What

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

2007-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/12/13 10:09 (GMT-0700) Kevin Fries apparently typed: My first partition is Windows if it will be installed on the system. This way, no matter what I do with partitions in Linux, the Windows C: remains fixed. Unless Vista changed something, C: is always a primary FAT* or NTFS partition

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

2007-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/12/13 18:59 (GMT+0100) Markus Hitter apparently typed: I can't find an urgent need for a /boot partition either I wonder if you read carefully what he wrote about /boot. Including a primary partition that is or could be /boot makes a system more robust.

Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

2007-12-13 Thread Daniel Bimschas
Hi Guys, first I want to apologize if this topic has been talked about before (which is what I hope) but congratulate to all those great improvements Ubuntu made over the last years. Now to my problem. My problem's I love Ubuntu and Linux in general, but I really CAN'T use it for one simple

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

2007-12-13 Thread Emmet Hikory
On Dec 14, 2007 2:59 AM, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my favorite for a desktop is a two partition design. One for / and one for /home. If you miss a swap partition, you've read correctly. With 2 GB or more of physical RAM these days, there is no real need for swapping at all.

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

2007-12-13 Thread Evan
I definitely agree that the single / partition isn't the best way to go. My preference is swap /boot /home / While other partitions can be useful, this covers the most important areas (user data, settings, and the ability to continue to boot Windows/OSX regardless of what happens to Ubuntu).

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

2007-12-13 Thread Aurélien Naldi
Le jeudi 13 décembre 2007 à 15:05 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan a écrit : On Dec 13, 2007 2:20 PM, Aurélien Naldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This problem is indeed well known and a solution is in the work: the X server included in the latest version of ubuntu included a new

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

2007-12-13 Thread Till Kamppeter
Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 2:20 PM, Aurélien Naldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This problem is indeed well known and a solution is in the work: the X server included in the latest version of ubuntu included a new version of the xrandr

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

2007-12-13 Thread Till Kamppeter
Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 4:32 PM, Till Kamppeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you need to take the intel driver. After I switched from the i810 to the intel driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at least after restarting X.

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

2007-12-13 Thread HggdH
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 16:09 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: /boot also is useful for those with very old systems and large hard drives. When the motherboard can't detect past a certain cylinder, making sure /boot is right up front can let a user have a 100GB hard drive on a 10 year old

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi, Chris Jones [2007-12-13 15:23 +1000]: Why is there so much focus on keeping the Ubuntu installer to the very limited size of a CD-R ISO? I think this is one of Ubuntu's greatest features: - DVD burners still comparatively rare, especially in the non-western world - an even higher

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

2007-12-13 Thread Kevin Fries
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:58 -0500, Evan wrote: I definitely agree that the single / partition isn't the best way to go. My preference is swap /boot /home / While other partitions can be useful, this covers the most important areas (user data, settings, and the ability to continue to

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Blaise Alleyne
Kevin Fries wrote: One idea that Debian has had for years, that I am surprised that Ubuntu did not follow -- especially with servers -- was the idea of the minimal install CD ( 50MB to fit on a mini-cd or flash stick) that was little more than a debootstrap install. Then everything was

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
The alternate disk can install a full system or can do a server install which is just the base system. After a server install, you are dropped to a command-line-only system. On Dec 13, 2007 5:17 PM, Blaise Alleyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Fries wrote: One idea that Debian has had for

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

2007-12-13 Thread Mikael Eriksson
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:32:21PM +, Till Kamppeter wrote: Yes, you need to take the intel driver. After I switched from the i810 to the intel driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at least after restarting X. Have you tried running xrandr --auto ? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

2007-12-13 Thread Sidarth Dasari
Mikael Eriksson wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:32:21PM +, Till Kamppeter wrote: Yes, you need to take the intel driver. After I switched from the i810 to the intel driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at least after restarting X. Have you tried running xrandr

Re: Strawman: merge main and universe

2007-12-13 Thread Matthias Klose
Scott James Remnant schrieb: I'd like to make a strawman proposal to be torn apart and burnt as necessary: merge main and universe. I will try and explain my rationale, and my alternate proposal. +1 We apparently have difficulties to communicate that this separation was done only for the

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2007-12-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
I'm not sure I'd say Tomboy and Sticky Notes are for the same thing. Sticky notes are good for quick notes like call 555 666- about car and just plain suck for long notes. Tomboy, because of it's wiki style, is very useful for much longer, more detailed notes. Tomboy's use case is more along

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2007-12-13 Thread John Carr
I'm not sure about Conduit. It's definitely not something I would use, though I can see its usefulness for others (same way I feel about F-Spot). It makes me think of that online GNOME project, which seems to be really just a lot of hooks into social networking sites. While the 15-30 crowd