Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:01 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:48 AM, A. Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAI

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) wrote on 15/03/08 08:22: > > Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: >... >> Please also take care of not doing this change alone - you're aware >> of that since you asked the list. This should be discussed with GNOME, >> sinc

Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:48 AM, A. Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:21 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM, A. Walton <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM, A. Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > LP Bug: > > https://bugs.edge.launchp.net/ubuntu/+sourc

Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 1:14 AM, A. Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > LP Bug: > https://bugs.edge.launchp.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/202405

Re: Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread A. Walton
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LP Bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/202405 > GNOME Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505340 > > Rhythmbox tries to load songs before finding out what directories to load >

Rhythmbox bugfix update?

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
LP Bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/202405 GNOME Bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505340 Rhythmbox tries to load songs before finding out what directories to load from, and it can cause it to crash. It also produces a *lot* of import errors, which n

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Remco
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wondering. Do any of you know how this is technically implemented > and what it could possibly effect? > > -Cory K. I browsed a bit through my filesystem, and it seems like the menu consists of a bunch of files in /usr/sh

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Cory K.
Just wondering. Do any of you know how this is technically implemented and what it could possibly effect? -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Remco
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, there aren't any ext3 defrag tools anyway (ok maybe a few userspace > ones, but that seems unusual), so we can avoid *that* bit of the argument, > but there is NTFS support, and that definitely *does* need to be de

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Onno Benschop
On 15/03/08 10:33, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > Well, there aren't any ext3 defrag tools anyway (ok maybe a few > userspace ones, but that seems unusual), so we can avoid *that* bit of > the argument, but there is NTFS support, and that definitely *does* > need to be defragged. You don't mean "formatt

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe another configuration applet is needed: Storage. With things > like indexing, backups, restore points, partition management and maybe > even defragmentation. But Ubuntu is lacking a bit with backups, > restore points and def

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Remco
(I could've sworn that I hit Reply to All... oh well, I'm sorry for the double emails to you, Greg. ) I sent the following to Greg an hour ago: I think that a simple renaming or merging isn't going to fix this. The complete configuration system has to be thought out. Someone configuring his compu

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum)
Milan Bouchet-Valat a écrit : > Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) a écrit : >> I like the proposal. Moving from >> >> System >> | -> Preferences >> ` -> Administration >> >> to >> >> Configuration >> | -> Your Preferences >> ` -> System Administration >> >> Is every one okay with this one ? >>

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) a écrit : > I like the proposal. Moving from > > System > | -> Preferences > ` -> Administration > > to > > Configuration > | -> Your Preferences > ` -> System Administration > > Is every one okay with this one ? > To me it's seems clearer: *Configuration* is m

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum)
> But even if it's there, I would propose the following renaming: > System->Configuration/Preferences > Preferences->Your Preferences (as I agree with Greg) > Administration->System configuration > > V > I like the proposal. Moving from System | -> Preferences ` -> Administration to Configura

Re: What is "terranova"?

2008-03-14 Thread Soren Hansen
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 06:05:13PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > by the way, why do I get this error: "id: cannot find name for group > > ID 128" > What are you doing when you encounter this error? Also, do you still see it? IIRC the live cd you used was from the day when libc6 was broken, so I w

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Viktor Nagy
Hi! I think it's weird in itself that the configuration menu is as important as the applications or places menus are. In a well running system the user is basically never exposed to any settings, so (although this should be discussed with GNOME) I would rather opt for hiding the whole System menu

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 20:45 +0100, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) wrote : > > I thought about renaming "Preferences" to "My Preferences" because > "User > > preferences" might be a very long label for some language. > > > Good idea - this should not raise any

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 19:48 +0100, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > I just > managed to remove every piece of unneeded text there, and these > expressions are really useless: if the menu description is clear enough, > you know what you want to do, and you're just looking for the domain > (printing, scr

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum) wrote : > Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > >> I read what you explained in the bug report, and here are a few remarks. >> Clarifying the confusion around Preferences & Administration is IMHO a >> good idea, since every base user seems to have problems with it. >

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Ouattara Oumar Aziz (alias wattazoum)
Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote: > I read what you explained in the bug report, and here are a few remarks. > Clarifying the confusion around Preferences & Administration is IMHO a > good idea, since every base user seems to have problems with it. > > Naming them "User Preferences" and "System Administr

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I read what you explained in the bug report, and here are a few remarks. Clarifying the confusion around Preferences & Administration is IMHO a good idea, since every base user seems to have problems with it. Naming them "User Preferences" and "System Administration" can be nice since it's not too

Re: libc borked (and I stop testing)

2008-03-14 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Vincenzo Ciancia a écrit : > A possible idea to improve the situation is to have a "regression" tag, > and to mark "high priority" all regressions. Say what you want, but this > is *exactly* the behaviour that one would expect from any software > distributor: things works, you break it, I tell you

Re: libc borked

2008-03-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
Hi Colin, Colin Watson wrote: Fact, rebuilding the archive won't show any build failures, but running those rebuilt apps would have shown the evilness of this change. >>> Rebuilding the archive against the output of the rebuild in progress >>> would have shown it up very q

Re: libc borked

2008-03-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:36:04PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:55:47PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > >> The package is not at fault... > >> The fault was to upload dpkg (2008-02-11 imho) with > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistCompilerFlags th

Re: libc borked

2008-03-14 Thread Stephan Hermann
hi Colin, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:55:47PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > >> The package is not at fault... >> The fault was to upload dpkg (2008-02-11 imho) with >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistCompilerFlags this in mind. >> Setting those flags is not good without a b