Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-10-16 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Vincenzo e a todos. On Thursday 16 October 2008 12:04:35 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Il giorno Mon, 12 May 2008 23:14:33 +0200 > Milan Bouchet-Valat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > But it has not fixed all issues. And it appears to cause some HD to > > heat, which can possibly be dangerou

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-10-16 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > I still see a solution: the hdparm At best that seems like a workaround. I'm pretty sure I saw Matthew Garrett say that the underlying cause of the high parking rate is that Linux's disk IO pattern is quite different to that of Windows, and that we ought to be able to

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-10-16 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno Mon, 12 May 2008 23:14:33 +0200 Milan Bouchet-Valat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > But it has not fixed all issues. And it appears to cause some HD to > heat, which can possibly be dangerous. But this may just be an > illusion. This is not an illusion: my laptop hangs after a couple

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-15 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 10:11 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ke, 2008-05-14 kello 02:11 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan kirjoitti: > > Could a list of vendors who make crappy hard drives (ie ones with this > > issue) be made so we all can avoid them? I can say my Western Digitals > > don't have the issue, t

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2008-05-14 kello 02:11 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan kirjoitti: > Could a list of vendors who make crappy hard drives (ie ones with this > issue) be made so we all can avoid them? I can say my Western Digitals > don't have the issue, though they do have a tendency to die anyway (bad > sectors and de

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Wed, 2008-05-14 at 07:58 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote: > please read the article again... relatime might help as part of a > workaround but the article makes pretty clear that there is no sane way > you can solve it on the software side in a nonintrusive way, its a > hardware vendor setting and h

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Dienstag, den 13.05.2008, 22:42 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 11:22 +0200, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > > hi, > > Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > > > I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High > > >

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Sayers
How about a script that does some sort of binary search for the ideal amount of time? So it would start off by setting `hdparm -B 128`, then wait 10 minutes, check whether there's been more than $CYCLE_MAX cycles, do `hdparm -B 64` or -B 192, then start over again. If the script finished with a v

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mardi 13 mai 2008 à 11:22 +0200, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > hi, > Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > > I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High > > frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime > > > plea

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-13 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 12.05.2008, 23:14 +0200 schrieb Milan Bouchet-Valat: > I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High > frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime > please see this article: http://lwn.net/Articles/257426/ it is not aything ub

Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-12 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
I'd like to raise the developers' awareness about bug 59695 [1]: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime I'm not sure everybody knows about it. It deals with hard disks parking after a too short period of idleness, and waking quickly after that, causing their