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From: Charlie Kravetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:22:55
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
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Subject: Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:27:29 +
Justin M. Wray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe
Am 03.11.2008 um 13:35 schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 12:49 +0100, Markus Hitter kirjoitti:
To add my own $ o.o2, I'd very much like to see a tool or Synaptic
feature which tells me about the differences between a standard
install and the current set of installed packages.
Hi all,
The above post gives me another idea.
What do people think of using the same tool to sending those package
names which are not in the archive (which people are say using from
other sources) to add weight to needs-packaging request of the same
package.
Of course, this would need :-
a.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Lars Wirzenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic kirjoitti:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote:
had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due
to trademark related names.
Non-technical users have absolutely no
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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:34:24
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Subject: Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
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2008/11/3 Justin M. Wray [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On that note, maybe we can obtain statistics (with permission) of debs that
are installed manually and do not exist in the repository. This data can
then be used to prioritize applications that need packaging or upgrading. We
can base priority
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 10:30 +, Matthew East kirjoitti:
If there is genuinely no way of keeping the system clean without some
user intervention, then certainly there is a use for such a program.
There is really no way of knowing for certain that a given package is or
is not required by the
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 03.11.2008 um 11:48 schrieb James Westby:
there is no way to tell the difference between obsolete packages
and locally installed ones.
Doesn't apt-get suggest to auto-remove packages from time to time?
Obviously,
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 12:49 +0100, Markus Hitter kirjoitti:
Doesn't apt-get suggest to auto-remove packages from time to time?
Obviously, the packaging mechanism keeps track of which packages were
installed by user command and which ones solely as a dependency.
That's true, and a future
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From: (``-_-ยดยด) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:34:24
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
I have apps that I installed using a .deb file, but never added
2008/11/3 James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Perhaps we need some sort of tool installed by default that removes
packages that are no longer needed, and may be considered cruft :-)
I'd agree the word cruft is unsuitable given the fact that it's a geek phrase.
By way of an unscientific test I
2008/11/3 Markus Hitter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
To add my own $ o.o2, I'd very much like to see a tool or Synaptic
feature which tells me about the differences between a standard
install and the current set of installed packages. One can purge
package by package until {Synaptic, apt-get,...} wants
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:06 +, Matthew East wrote:
This is the second time I've been bitten by a problem like this... it
seems that people tracking intrepid frequently end up with a desktop
that is different to that
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 10:06 +, Matthew East wrote:
This is the second time I've been bitten by a problem like this... it
seems that people tracking intrepid frequently end up with a desktop
that is different to that which is finally released. No doubt this
policy has been considered and
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Chris Coulson
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2008/11/3 Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The whole application needs a thorough review. To be honest, it's
pretty surprising that it was included by default in Intrepid,
considering the high quality of presentation of the
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 13:35 +, Matthew East kirjoitti:
Heh, you took me a bit too literally there. I meant that the word
should be removed from the application completely, but of course it
would need to be replacd with another title. To be honest, I find the
word Remover a bit awkward, as
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 18:01 +0200, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti:
I follow the legal advice I got, from a real lawyer, and that was clear:
change the name.
Matthew, I'm sorry I chose those words. I didn't no mean to imply you
are not a real lawyer. I did not know you were a lawyer at all. Here is
Am 03.11.2008 um 11:48 schrieb James Westby:
there is no way to tell the difference between obsolete packages
and locally installed ones.
Doesn't apt-get suggest to auto-remove packages from time to time?
Obviously, the packaging mechanism keeps track of which packages were
installed by
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 02:21 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
I thought cruft was used interchangeably with crud when talking about
real-life things.
I thought it is a known word too, but US-natives called me to ask what I
was talking about.
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ma, 2008-11-03 kello 11:31 +0530, shirish kirjoitti:
Hi all,
I know you guys introduced a package/tool by the name of
system-cleaner-gtk and then had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due
to trademark related names. In the Jaunty cycle it would be nice if
you (whoever the maintainer is)
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote:
had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due
to trademark related names.
Non-technical users have absolutely no idea what cruft means.
Wikipedia correctly says, Cruft is computing jargon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruft
I was so used to the term
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote:
had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due
to trademark related names.
Non-technical users have absolutely no idea what cruft means.
Wikipedia correctly says, Cruft is computing jargon
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic kirjoitti:
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote:
had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due
to trademark related names.
Non-technical users have absolutely no idea what cruft means.
Wikipedia correctly says, Cruft is computing
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