Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-21 Thread Scott Beamer
Flávio Etrusco spake thusly: Exacty. That's precicely my point. Fedora, Mandriva and openSUSE have thsi down. Which has nothing to do with rpm versus deb. It just happens that their repo layout/structure was much more conducive to packaging properly for 64-bit. IIRC rpm allows

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-16 Thread Christopher Chan
I don't mean to be a [citation needed] troll, but I've honestly never heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as you installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to do anything else; the

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system

2010-03-16 Thread Christopher Lees
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 12:00 +, ubuntu-devel-discuss-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:10:16 +0800 From: Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk Subject: Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs To: ubuntu

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-16 Thread Evan
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: I don't mean to be a [citation needed] troll, but I've honestly never heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system

2010-03-16 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
I don't mean to be a [citation needed] troll, but I've honestly never heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as you installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to do anything else; the

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-16 Thread Scott Beamer
Christopher Chan spake thusly: I don't mean to be a [citation needed] troll, but I've honestly never heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as you installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-16 Thread Flávio Etrusco
Exacty. That's precicely my point. Fedora, Mandriva and openSUSE have thsi down. Which has nothing to do with rpm versus deb. It just happens that their repo layout/structure was much more conducive to packaging properly for 64-bit. IIRC rpm allows installing multiple versions of one

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-15 Thread Evan
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Scott Beamer geek...@angrykeyboarder.comwrote: Thomas Tempelmann spake thusly: ... I've created a 32 bit application that uses Gtk 2, which launches fine on the 32 Bit Ubuntu 9.10 default installation. But when I launch the same app on the 64 bit Ubuntu

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-15 Thread Scott Beamer
Evan spake thusly: I don't mean to be a [citation needed] troll, but I've honestly never heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as you installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to do anything

Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Thomas Tempelmann
Hi there, this is my first post. I've signed up here because I have a particular problem I like to discuss with the developers. I'm a long-time software developer, although I'm not a big fan of Unix and derivates. I am mostly developing for OS X, and used to do for classic Mac OS, so I'm more of

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Stéphane Graber
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 23:40 +0100, Thomas Tempelmann wrote: Hi there, this is my first post. I've signed up here because I have a particular problem I like to discuss with the developers. I'm a long-time software developer, although I'm not a big fan of Unix and derivates. I am mostly

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Thomas Tempelmann
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 23:52, Stéphane Graber stgra...@ubuntu.com wrote: ldd your binary Will at least give you the list of shared libraries that your binary is using an if not present, tell you so. Yes, it appears to find them all, mostly in /usr/lib32 and /lib32, which is expected, I

Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 14 March 2010 22:40, Thomas Tempelmann tempelm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, this is my first post. I've signed up here because I have a particular problem I like to discuss with the developers. I'm a long-time software developer, although I'm not a big fan of Unix and derivates. I am

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Thomas Tempelmann
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 00:26, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't think an error is needed. Generally on Ubuntu you launch .desktop files of applications installed using Software Centre / Synaptic / apt. All of which are of correct architecture. I disagree. I think it's

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Evan
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Thomas Tempelmann tempelm...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 00:26, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't think an error is needed. Generally on Ubuntu you launch .desktop files of applications installed using Software Centre /

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system - no or misleading error msgs

2010-03-14 Thread Scott Beamer
Thomas Tempelmann spake thusly: ... I've created a 32 bit application that uses Gtk 2, which launches fine on the 32 Bit Ubuntu 9.10 default installation. But when I launch the same app on the 64 bit Ubuntu version, the following things happen.. [...] The problem is that Debian (and