Re: trouble with python-minimal upgrade

2012-04-20 Thread Daniel Hollocher
> Did you use 'do-release-upgrade' to go to oneiric, or just change
> sources.lists and dist-upgrade? I've had problems with dist-upgrades in
> the past, but things have always gone smoothly with do-release-upgrade.
>

update-manager -d is where I started.  Once it error'd out, I believe
my sources.list where left at oneiric.  From what I remember,
update-manager, do-release-upgrade, aptitude all gave the same error.
I also have the ubuntu-desktop package installed.  So AFAICT, I ran
into this error in a legit way.




>>
>
> Just FYI, dpkg and apt are C(++?) programs. Simple way to tell:
>
> $ file `which dpkg`
> /usr/bin/dpkg: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), 
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, 
> BuildID[sha1]=0x480c44f57d94c05a2301b5394f4a376b501a31e6, stripped
>
> $ file `which update-manager`
> /usr/bin/update-manager: a /usr/bin/python script, ASCII text executable

cool, new trick.  Thanks!

Dan

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Re: trouble with python-minimal upgrade

2012-04-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Daniel Hollocher's message of Fri Apr 20 19:55:00 -0700 2012:
> Hey folks,
> Sorry to ask for support on this list, but I just tried to upgrade to
> oneiric, and my computer is in a sorry state.  python-minimal has a
> dependency loop problem, and dpkg is complaining more loudly than I'm
> used to.
> 
> Basically, all the various upgrade commands I have tried result in this:
> > E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential 
> > package python-minimal due to a Conflicts/Pre-> Depends loop. This is often 
> > bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak 
> > option.
> > E: Internal Error, Could not early remove python-minimal
> 
> Actually, as I type this email, I made some progress:
> sudo dpkg --remove --force-all python-minimal
> sudo apt-get install -f
> update-manager > partial upgrade.
> 

Did you use 'do-release-upgrade' to go to oneiric, or just change
sources.lists and dist-upgrade? I've had problems with dist-upgrades in
the past, but things have always gone smoothly with do-release-upgrade.

> 
> Anyway, I got a bit nervous there, since I wasn't sure how much apt
> and dpkg depended on python to do their work (ie, removing python
> might remove my ability to manipulate packages).  No harm no foul at
> this point.
> 

Just FYI, dpkg and apt are C(++?) programs. Simple way to tell:

$ file `which dpkg`
/usr/bin/dpkg: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, 
BuildID[sha1]=0x480c44f57d94c05a2301b5394f4a376b501a31e6, stripped

$ file `which update-manager`
/usr/bin/update-manager: a /usr/bin/python script, ASCII text executable

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trouble with python-minimal upgrade

2012-04-20 Thread Daniel Hollocher
Hey folks,
Sorry to ask for support on this list, but I just tried to upgrade to
oneiric, and my computer is in a sorry state.  python-minimal has a
dependency loop problem, and dpkg is complaining more loudly than I'm
used to.

Basically, all the various upgrade commands I have tried result in this:
> E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential 
> package python-minimal due to a Conflicts/Pre-> Depends loop. This is often 
> bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak 
> option.
> E: Internal Error, Could not early remove python-minimal

Actually, as I type this email, I made some progress:
sudo dpkg --remove --force-all python-minimal
sudo apt-get install -f
update-manager > partial upgrade.


Anyway, I got a bit nervous there, since I wasn't sure how much apt
and dpkg depended on python to do their work (ie, removing python
might remove my ability to manipulate packages).  No harm no foul at
this point.

Since I wrote this email, I'm sending it.  For those interested
parties, instead of a bug report, treat this like a transient
notification just like you get in the upper right.

Thanks, bye,
Dan


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Re: Recent OpenSSL update that breaks cloudfront and rubygems.org?

2012-04-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:06:12PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> The recent update to OpenSSL in Precise has rendered cloudfront.com
> unusable (as well as several other hosts which people have noted
> throughout other various bugs -- the one I discovered was
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/986147).

I'm basically despairing about this since every time I touch OpenSSL to
try to fix one set of bugs it appears to break something else (and I
should add that I haven't been getting creative, and very much want
*not* to get creative, I've just been applying fixes from upstream).
Since I'm about to be diving head-first into release chaos, I strongly
encourage anyone who can to try to figure out a fix that doesn't cause
connection to the other sites we just fixed to regress!

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Re: Missing File

2012-04-20 Thread C de-Avillez
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:25:24 -0400
Ray McCrum  wrote:

> 
> This should be an easy fix.
> 
> This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the Ubuntu 12.04
> beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.
> 
> I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
> ''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''
> 
> I tried this several times, both using and not using the "-" between
> words like it is Printed in the PDF I downloaded from the Ubuntu Web
> Site last evening.  I also tried it with and with out the "; " at the
> end of the Line.
> 
> The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades found''.  I




Hi Ray

It seems your problem is mising a dash: the command requires '-d' to
attempt an upgrade to a development release, *not* 'd'.

Please try with

sudo do-release-upgrade -d

and we will go from there.

Cheers,

..C..


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Re: Recent OpenSSL update that breaks cloudfront and rubygems.org?

2012-04-20 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi,
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:06:12 -0500
Jordon Bedwell  wrote:

> The recent update to OpenSSL in Precise has rendered cloudfront.com
> unusable (as well as several other hosts which people have noted
> throughout other various bugs -- the one I discovered was
have a look at 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/965371

ciao
oli


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Recent OpenSSL update that breaks cloudfront and rubygems.org?

2012-04-20 Thread Jordon Bedwell
The recent update to OpenSSL in Precise has rendered cloudfront.com
unusable (as well as several other hosts which people have noted
throughout other various bugs -- the one I discovered was
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/986147). Can we
please get a fix since this breaks downloading from RubyGems.org on
Precise and could potentially break quite a few development machines.
Doing -tls1 or -ssl3 or enforcing a specific cipher allows it to work
but this is a big problem considering it breaks many Python and Ruby
applications like bundler, net/https, rubygems, and eventmachine
(unless you work around it) and libraries and applications that rely
on them.

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Re: Missing File

2012-04-20 Thread Laura Czajkowski

On 20/04/12 17:50, Ray McCrum wrote:
I am having Trouble getting this through to You.  Something in Your 
System is rejecting because of HTML attachments, which there are none 
that I am putting in here.


This is my 3rd try and I hope the last.  I have told my Thunderbird to 
send this in plain Text, I just hope that works.


Ray McCrum

-Main text


Ray all 3 have made their way through!

Laura

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Missing File

2012-04-20 Thread Ray McCrum
I am having Trouble getting this through to You.  Something in Your 
System is rejecting because of HTML attachments, which there are none 
that I am putting in here.


This is my 3rd try and I hope the last.  I have told my Thunderbird to 
send this in plain Text, I just hope that works.


Ray McCrum

-Main text

This should be an easy fix.

This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the Ubuntu 12.04 
beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.


I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''

I tried this several times, both using and not using the "-" between 
words like it is Printed in the PDF I downloaded from the Ubuntu Web 
Site last evening.  I also tried it with and with out the "; " at the 
end of the Line.


The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades found''.  I know 
the File has been released, because I downloaded a copy of it last 
evening also.  I do prefer to use the Automatic Upgrade, because it has 
worked so well on Ubuntu before, and saves so much time re-installing 
and configuring Software.


I am currently using Ubuntu 10.04 L.T.S as my Main Software, but I have 
the 11.10 version installed also, the last two weeks.


The 11.10 appears to be working great, but I always test New OS Systems 
about a Month before I really switch to them on a permanent basis.


One comment I would like to make is about the 'new' Desktop Programs, 
both Gnome3, and Unity.  I do not really like either of them, because 
they remove the 'Panels' that an individual can add Icons to for Quick 
Starting Software Programs.  I am using the Unity on my Ubuntu 11.10 
because is it the 'lesser of the two evils'.  I normally keep 18 
separate Icons, plus the Drop Down Menu Box, and the standard Calender, 
Network Icon Volume Control, and Shut Down Menu in the top Panel on 
Ubuntu 10.04.  That can't be done in the Unity Interface.  The 
''Dashboard'' is a time waster in finding the Programs I want to run.


Other then the Menu system, the Ubuntu 11.10 appears to be a great 
operating System.  This 10.04 I have been running has been the best I 
have ever owned in 28 Years I have been using Computers.


Thank You

Ray McCrum
Email;  ogmhc1...@att.net



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Fwd: Missing File

2012-04-20 Thread Ray McCrum

  
  
This message didn't
come through to You because something was accidentally
attached the First time.

I am sorry about that, and hope it works this time.

Ray McCrum
  


  This should be an easy fix.
  
  This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the
  Ubuntu 12.04 beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.
  
  I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
          ''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''
  
  I tried this several times, both using and not using the
  "-" between words like it is Printed in the PDF I
  downloaded from the Ubuntu Web Site last evening.  I also
  tried it with and with out the "; " at the end of the
  Line.
  
  The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades
  found''.  I know the File has been released, because I
  downloaded a copy of it last evening also.  I do prefer to
  use the Automatic Upgrade, because it has worked so well
  on Ubuntu before, and saves so much time re-installing and
  configuring Software.
  
  I am currently using Ubuntu 10.04 L.T.S as my Main
  Software, but I have the 11.10 version installed also, the
  last two weeks.  
  
  The 11.10 appears to be working great, but I always test
  New OS Systems about a Month before I really switch to
  them on a permanent basis.
  
  One comment I would like to make is about the 'new'
  Desktop Programs, both Gnome3, and Unity.  I do not really
  like either of them, because they remove the 'Panels' that
  an individual can add Icons to for Quick Starting Software
  Programs.  I am using the Unity on my Ubuntu 11.10 because
  is it the 'lesser of the two evils'.  I normally keep 18
  separate Icons, plus the Drop Down Menu Box, and the
  standard Calender, Network Icon Volume Control, and Shut
  Down Menu in the top Panel on Ubuntu 10.04.  That can't be
  done in the Unity Interface.  The ''Dashboard'' is a time
  waster in finding the Programs I want to run.
  
  Other then the Menu system, the Ubuntu 11.10 appears to be
  a great operating System.  This 10.04 I have been running
  has been the best I have ever owned in 28 Years I have
  been using Computers.
  
  Thank You 
  
  Ray McCrum
      Email;  ogmhc1...@att.net 
  

  


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Missing File

2012-04-20 Thread Ray McCrum

  
  

  This should be an easy fix.
  
  This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the
  Ubuntu 12.04 beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.
  
  I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
          ''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''
  
  I tried this several times, both using and not using the
  "-" between words like it is Printed in the PDF I
  downloaded from the Ubuntu Web Site last evening.  I also
  tried it with and with out the "; " at the end of the
  Line.
  
  The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades
  found''.  I know the File has been released, because I
  downloaded a copy of it last evening also.  I do prefer to
  use the Automatic Upgrade, because it has worked so well
  on Ubuntu before, and saves so much time re-installing and
  configuring Software.
  
  I am currently using Ubuntu 10.04 L.T.S as my Main
  Software, but I have the 11.10 version installed also, the
  last two weeks.  
  
  The 11.10 appears to be working great, but I always test
  New OS Systems about a Month before I really switch to
  them on a permanent basis.
  
  One comment I would like to make is about the 'new'
  Desktop Programs, both Gnome3, and Unity.  I do not really
  like either of them, because they remove the 'Panels' that
  an individual can add Icons to for Quick Starting Software
  Programs.  I am using the Unity on my Ubuntu 11.10 because
  is it the 'lesser of the two evils'.  I normally keep 18
  separate Icons, plus the Drop Down Menu Box, and the
  standard Calender, Network Icon Volume Control, and Shut
  Down Menu in the top Panel on Ubuntu 10.04.  That can't be
  done in the Unity Interface.  The ''Dashboard'' is a time
  waster in finding the Programs I want to run.
  
  Other then the Menu system, the Ubuntu 11.10 appears to be
  a great operating System.  This 10.04 I have been running
  has been the best I have ever owned in 28 Years I have
  been using Computers.
  
  Thank You 
  
  Ray McCrum
      Email;  ogmhc1...@att.net 
  

  


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