Re: Kernel issues since -22

2016-06-22 Thread Christian Ehrhardt
Hi,
I happened to own a W520 together with hundreds of coworkers in the past.
There seems to be a reoccurring HW defect on some of the boards regarding
voltage control.
About 10% of our devices (which already is a lot statistically) had the
issue you describe.

After a while we realized weird stuff, like if you once tried to boot
without AC plugged you are likely go into the black-boot issues and have to
reboot quite some times until it works again.
Since this matches closely what you describe in your state with -22 it
might be the same.

Back then, when it still bootet "sometimes" I was able to insert a few
things in the boot process and we realized that it still boots in the
background, but the graphic device wasn't seen on the pci bus.
Neither by X.org nor by a lspci we inserted to write to disk. Now without a
graphic devices it couldn't show us much :-(

Given the raciness this issue had for us it is quite possible that slight
changes in the kernel initialization made it close to 100% to occur now.
The issue was bound to HW, so no reinstall or anything solved it for us -
one had a mainboard replacement which fixed it, but since nobody knows for
sure what it is I wouldn't count a 100% on that.


Christian Ehrhardt
Software Engineer, Ubuntu Server
Canonical Ltd

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Nish Aravamudan <
nish.aravamu...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On 22.06.2016 [12:43:46 -0700], Dale Amon wrote:
> > I have not got a whole lot of information because this happens
> > so early in the boot. Basically, no kernel since -22 works on
> > my Lenovo W520. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say it has
> > to do with some race condition in the systemctl set up. Even
> > in -22 I often must boot several times before it succeeds, although
> > the failures in it seem to be different.
>
> That seems buggy in and of itself. You're sure the hardware is stable?
>
> > Has anyone else reported similar show-stopper issues in
> > recent kernels?
>
> I would probably check the existing bugs and maybe file one.
>
> -Nish
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Re: Kernel issues since -22

2016-06-22 Thread Nish Aravamudan
On 22.06.2016 [12:43:46 -0700], Dale Amon wrote:
> I have not got a whole lot of information because this happens
> so early in the boot. Basically, no kernel since -22 works on
> my Lenovo W520. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say it has
> to do with some race condition in the systemctl set up. Even
> in -22 I often must boot several times before it succeeds, although
> the failures in it seem to be different.

That seems buggy in and of itself. You're sure the hardware is stable?

> Has anyone else reported similar show-stopper issues in
> recent kernels?

I would probably check the existing bugs and maybe file one.

-Nish

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Re: Kernel issues since -22

2016-06-22 Thread Dale Amon

On 2016-06-22 12:43, Dale Amon wrote:

Has anyone else reported similar show-stopper issues in
recent kernels?


If anyone is interested in this issue, I'd be happy to share
what little info I can extract via pen and paper of the
early boot sequence leading up to the hangs.

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Kernel issues since -22

2016-06-22 Thread Dale Amon

I have not got a whole lot of information because this happens
so early in the boot. Basically, no kernel since -22 works on
my Lenovo W520. If I were to hazard a guess, I would say it has
to do with some race condition in the systemctl set up. Even
in -22 I often must boot several times before it succeeds, although
the failures in it seem to be different.

Has anyone else reported similar show-stopper issues in
recent kernels?


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Request for dnsmasq patch

2016-06-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi!  I'd like to ask if you could include a dnsmasq fix [1] in the Xenial
dnsmasq package?

[1]
http://thekelleys.org.uk/gitweb/?p=dnsmasq.git;a=commit;h=ff325644c7afae2588583f935f4ea9b9694eb52e

Is this the right process for requesting that?

Thanks,
Neil
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