Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-09-02 Thread Josua Dietze
Am 24.02.2010 15:59, schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: 2010/2/24 Scott James Remnantsc...@ubuntu.com: On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 16:16 +0200, Timo Jyrinki wrote: Any objections or observations for a MIR (main inclusion request) of usb-modeswitch and inclusion on the default installation of Ubuntu 10.04

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-09-02 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Josua, Josua Dietze [2010-09-02 19:22 +0200]: In the meantime, things have happened. Indeed! usb-modeswitch is in Maverick by default, replacing modem-modeswitch. :-) Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-09-02 Thread Josua Dietze
Am 02.09.2010 19:28, schrieb Martin Pitt: Hello Josua, Josua Dietze [2010-09-02 19:22 +0200]: In the meantime, things have happened. Indeed! usb-modeswitch is in Maverick by default, replacing modem-modeswitch. :-) Oops! Sorry for the noise, should have checked ... Thanks, Josua --

Freeze exception for including usb-modeswitch in main and default (was Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?)

2010-03-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
A little bit *bump* - so, what we do with this one? Is there enough reason for freeze exception for this one? Cheers, Peter. So far response from hotplug mailing list is been very positive so far[1]: 1) Some attention should be taken what is supported by kernel itself and usb-modeswitch and

Re: Freeze exception for including usb-modeswitch in main and default (was Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?)

2010-03-01 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:17 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: A little bit *bump* - so, what we do with this one? Is there enough reason for freeze exception for this one? A freeze exception wouldn't just be add usb-modeswitch, we also need to remove modem-modeswitch from udev, make sure that

Re: Freeze exception for including usb-modeswitch in main and default (was Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?)

2010-03-01 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 15:51 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: 2010/3/1 Scott James Remnant sc...@ubuntu.com: On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:17 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: A little bit *bump* - so, what we do with this one? Is there enough reason for freeze exception for this one? A

Re: Freeze exception for including usb-modeswitch in main and default (was Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?)

2010-03-01 Thread Marjo Mercado
Hi Scott, I agree with your proposal below. It's quite late in the release cycle for such a major change with potential of breakage. Thanks, Marjo On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 13:49 +, Scott James Remnant wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 12:17 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: A little bit *bump*

Re: Freeze exception for including usb-modeswitch in main and default (was Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?)

2010-03-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
If it wasn't after Feature Freeze already, I'd be quite supportive - usb-modeswitch totally seems the way to go; I just think it's too late to make the change for an LTS, and I certainly don't think it's a good idea to introduce overlapping pieces this late. It seems more prudent to me to

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-26 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/25 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: 2010/2/25 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2010/2/25 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: By the way, reading all materials, I just thought - usb-modeswitch now has nice udev wrapper - why not ship it by default? Why it isn't in main? Is there

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-25 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/25 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2010/2/24 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: I fully agree with you Scott, however I am not sure which one of us should start discussion there. Would be nice for you Ubuntu guys to start pushing this idea, because you have some backing. Anyway,

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/25 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: By the way, reading all materials, I just thought - usb-modeswitch now has nice udev wrapper - why not ship it by default? Why it isn't in main? Is there any objections to this? Patents, legal issues (I can't think of any, but still)? I think this

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-25 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/25 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2010/2/25 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: By the way, reading all materials, I just thought - usb-modeswitch now has nice udev wrapper - why not ship it by default? Why it isn't in main? Is there any objections to this? Patents, legal issues

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-24 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 16:16 +0200, Timo Jyrinki wrote: Any objections or observations for a MIR (main inclusion request) of usb-modeswitch and inclusion on the default installation of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? Binary package size is 30kB + 10kB (data). I have an objection on the basis that we

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-24 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/24 Scott James Remnant sc...@ubuntu.com: On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 16:16 +0200, Timo Jyrinki wrote: Any objections or observations for a MIR (main inclusion request) of usb-modeswitch and inclusion on the default installation of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS? Binary package size is 30kB + 10kB (data).

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-24 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 16:59 +0200, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: I fully agree with you Scott, however I am not sure which one of us should start discussion there. Would be nice for you Ubuntu guys to start pushing this idea, because you have some backing. I can't push something I know nothing

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/24 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com: I fully agree with you Scott, however I am not sure which one of us should start discussion there. Would be nice for you Ubuntu guys to start pushing this idea, because you have some backing. Anyway, I'm subscribing to that list and if no one will

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/13 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: I think the main interesting thing would be that what are the usb-modeswitch developers' motivations and could they with some help from the kernel guys be directed to contribute more to the kernel. In addition to previous concerns in this thread

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-20 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/20 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2010/2/13 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: I think the main interesting thing would be that what are the usb-modeswitch developers' motivations and could they with some help from the kernel guys be directed to contribute more to the kernel.

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-20 Thread Josua Dietze
Peteris Krisjanis schrieb: Conceptually udev modem-modeswitch is right way to go, but so far it supports only one vendor and no one has explained how to extend it. What would be the necessary conceptual changes in *usb-modeswitch* to make it fit for an inclusion into udev? Josua Dietze --

Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-15 Thread Josua Dietze
Alan Pope schrieb: Perhaps if some of the more irritating bugs in usb_modeswitch and network_manager around 3g connections were fixed, yes. Some specifics: ... The bug you point to is related to a change in the SCSI/USB storage code which exposed a quirk in Huawei devices. This caused a

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-13 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/2/9 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: If I read those correctly, they work neither with or without usb-modeswitch, hence adding it would not decrease any usability? I poked around on IRC and summarized with my non-existent journalistic skills the situation in my blog:

Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-07 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, a) Is anyone aware of some earlier discussions on the topic wrt Ubuntu and b) Would everyone agree that it would make a lot of sense? 3G broadband usage is incredibly popular nowadays at least around here, and usb-modeswitch is a must have for a majority (?) of new 3G modems these days. It's

Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?

2010-02-07 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Timo, On 7 February 2010 14:16, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: a) Is anyone aware of some earlier discussions on the topic wrt Ubuntu and b) Would everyone agree that it would make a lot of sense? Perhaps if some of the more irritating bugs in usb_modeswitch and network_manager