Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-20 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Knutson wrote on 14/01/15 15:34: Clearing out old kernel versions manually to be able to upgrade the kernel version is something the end user should never have to do. Clearing out old kernel version from /boot should be better managed by

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-20 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 09:27:20AM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 08:37:38AM -0500, Saqman2060 wrote: What does it mean to clear out and old kernel version? It means remove the packages that contain old kernel versions by running Personally I just use dselect and

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-19 Thread Marius Gedminas
-Original Message- From: Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com Sent: ‎1/‎14/‎2015 11:12 AM To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space Clearing out old kernel versions manually to be able

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-16 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 15 January 2015 at 21:04, Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:49:42AM -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com wrote: I can see several ways power users can shoot themselves in the foot with autoremove,

RE: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-16 Thread Saqman2060
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space Clearing out old kernel versions manually to be able to upgrade the kernel version is something the end user should never have to do. Clearing out old kernel version

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 January 2015 at 14:37, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@canonical.com wrote: ... I have Ubuntu Server instances in the Cloud, with very tiny root disks, one of which has run for several years, autoupdating, and

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 08:37:00AM -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote: Around that time a few years ago, I wrote the purge-old-kernels command ( http://manpg.es/purge-old-kernels), which does a very effective job of

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Adam Conrad
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 08:37:00AM -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote: Around that time a few years ago, I wrote the purge-old-kernels command ( http://manpg.es/purge-old-kernels), which does a very effective job of saving your current kernel, and one other known working kernel, while deleting the

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 16:49, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a support request. I have no problem cleaning up my system. My mother should never have to do this if she wants to run

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Cláudio Sampaio
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: It seemed to me that Dustin was not aware of using autoremove, otherwise why tell us about his purge-old-kernels script, since that function is now handled by autoremove? Also, since he is talking (...)

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 January 2015 at 14:49, Cláudio Sampaio pat...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 January 2015 at 14:37, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@canonical.com wrote: ... I have Ubuntu Server instances in the Cloud, with very tiny root disks,

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 January 2015 at 14:37, Dustin Kirkland kirkl...@canonical.com wrote: ... I have Ubuntu Server instances in the Cloud, with very tiny root disks, one of which has run for several years, autoupdating, and accumulated 37(!!) kernels, which filled up its 8GB root partition. Around that

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:49:10PM -0200, Cláudio Sampaio wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: As from 14.04 apt-get autoremove should remove old kernels except for current and most recent. apt-get autoremove is an arcane command-line tool. I

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Mateusz Stachowski
W dniu 15.01.2015 o 17:49, Dustin Kirkland pisze: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 08:37:00AM -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote: Around that time a few years ago, I wrote the purge-old-kernels command (

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Adam Conrad
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:49:42AM -0600, Dustin Kirkland wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Adam Conrad adcon...@ubuntu.com wrote: I can see several ways power users can shoot themselves in the foot with autoremove, but no way that normal people can, and I'm not sure catering to

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Alan Pope
On 14 January 2015 at 16:49, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: This is not a support request. I have no problem cleaning up my system. My mother should never have to do this if she wants to run Ubuntu. +1 The default installation on a Dell XPS 13 (a flagship device we

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 14.01.2015, 16:17 + schrieb Colin Law: On 14 January 2015 at 15:34, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: Clearing out old kernel versions manually to be able to upgrade the kernel version is something the end user should never have to do. Clearing out

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Colin Law
On 14 January 2015 at 15:34, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: Clearing out old kernel versions manually to be able to upgrade the kernel version is something the end user should never have to do. Clearing out old kernel version from /boot should be better managed by the

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Chris Knutson
I just had to purge 3 older kernel versions this morning on 14.04 to update from 3.13.0-43 to 3.13.0-44 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 15:34, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: Clearing out old kernel versions

Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Chris Knutson
Clearing out old kernel versions manually to be able to upgrade the kernel version is something the end user should never have to do. Clearing out old kernel version from /boot should be better managed by the software updater to intelligently manage historic kernel versions based on available disk

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Colin Law
On 14 January 2015 at 16:33, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: I just had to purge 3 older kernel versions this morning on 14.04 to update from 3.13.0-43 to 3.13.0-44 Did you try autoremove? Alternatively is it possible they were ancient ones left over from before an upgrade

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-14 Thread Chris Knutson
This is not a support request. I have no problem cleaning up my system. My mother should never have to do this if she wants to run Ubuntu. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 January 2015 at 16:33, Chris Knutson christopher.knut...@gmail.com wrote: I