Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-20 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 20, 2017 a las 03:22:46AM -0700, Selene Scriven escribió: > * Matthias Apitz wrote: > > What is the name of this process and does it have some log file > > (maybe to avtivate) which would log the actual voltage and the > > derived estimated percentage?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-20 Thread Selene Scriven
* Matthias Apitz wrote: > What is the name of this process and does it have some log file > (maybe to avtivate) which would log the actual voltage and the > derived estimated percentage? There are entries for it in the kernel, but IIRC I think the UI probably uses upowerd.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-17 Thread Francisco Pina Martins
Thank you for the detailed explanation Selene! It actually answered a lot of questions I had had for a while regarding phone and laptop batteries. Best, Francisco On 16-01-2017 18:04, Selene Scriven wrote: * Matthias Apitz wrote: Yes, exactly like this, with meters in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello Selene, This is, I think, the most profound statement about all this problem. Thank you for this! El día Monday, January 16, 2017 a las 11:04:31AM -0700, Selene Scriven escribió: > > What I do not understand is the issue my wife sees from time to > > time: her device shows 50% or 60% of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Guillaume F
Le 16/01/2017 à 16:36, advocatux a écrit : Le 16/01/2017 à 12:46, advocatux a écrit : I think Guillaume means he let the phone turn off when battery ran low, not a real full discharge because, as you said, that is not good for a Li-ion battery. BQ has several articles [*] about this topic

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Selene Scriven
* Matthias Apitz wrote: > Yes, exactly like this, with meters in addition. Although not shown in the picture, I have the phones instrumented with meters along the path for primary power and USB, and use it to check power consumption on each new build. For example, here is a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Marek Greško
Hello, please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1540062 Please, add your votes please. Marek -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help :

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread advocatux
Le 16/01/2017 à 12:46, advocatux a écrit : I think Guillaume means he let the phone turn off when battery ran low, not a real full discharge because, as you said, that is not good for a Li-ion battery. BQ has several articles [*] about this topic in general, and about how to calibrate the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, January 16, 2017 a las 07:58:15AM -0700, Selene Scriven escribió: > * Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Is it possible to attach addition wires, in parallel and > > inline, to attach meters outside the device while using or > > charging? > > > > I think, we need an

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Selene Scriven
* Matthias Apitz wrote: > Is it possible to attach addition wires, in parallel and > inline, to attach meters outside the device while using or > charging? > > I think, we need an independent measurement of the energy > in/out to understand if the battery firmware or the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Sam Bull
On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 14:40 +, Sam Bull wrote: > On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 14:41 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > On Monday, 16 January 2017 14:32:37 CET, Sam Bull > .c > > om>  > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the article, however this appears to mostly match my > > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Sam Bull
On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 14:41 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > On Monday, 16 January 2017 14:32:37 CET, Sam Bull om>  > wrote: > > Thanks for the article, however this appears to mostly match my > > suggestion, such as not performing a full discharge: > > > > The smaller the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
On Monday, 16 January 2017 14:32:37 CET, Sam Bull wrote: Thanks for the article, however this appears to mostly match my suggestion, such as not performing a full discharge: The smaller the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. Wrong

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Sam Bull
On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 12:38 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El lunes, 16 de enero de 2017 11:43:16 (CET), Sam Bull  > escribió: > > On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 14:49 +0100, Guillaume F wrote: > > > (with the exception of my very first full discharge,  > > > which went quite

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread advocatux
El 16/01/17 a las 11:43, Sam Bull escribió: On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 14:49 +0100, Guillaume F wrote: (with the exception of my very first full discharge, which went quite normally). So the hardware doesn't seem to be the problem here and I probably can't be accused of mistreating my battery :).

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Matthias Apitz
El lunes, 16 de enero de 2017 11:43:16 (CET), Sam Bull escribió: On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 14:49 +0100, Guillaume F wrote: (with the exception of my very first full discharge, which went quite normally). So the hardware doesn't seem to be the problem here and I probably

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-16 Thread Sam Bull
On Sat, 2017-01-14 at 14:49 +0100, Guillaume F wrote: > (with the exception of my very first full discharge,  > which went quite normally). So the hardware doesn't seem to be the  > problem here and I probably can't be accused of mistreating my > battery :). Everything I've ever heard about

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-14 Thread Guillaume F
Le 14/01/2017 à 16:34, Matthias Apitz a écrit : On Saturday, 14 January 2017 14:49:47 CET, Guillaume F wrote: ... I decided to buy a new battery, thinking the one in my phone was damaged. But my phone continues to behave in the exact same way after the replacement (with

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
On Saturday, 14 January 2017 14:49:47 CET, Guillaume F wrote: ... I decided to buy a new battery, thinking the one in my phone was damaged. But my phone continues to behave in the exact same way after the replacement (with the exception of my very first full discharge,

[Ubuntu-phone] Battery statistics and flashing bricks

2017-01-14 Thread Guillaume F
Hi list, I know it has already been discussed on the list and that there is one bug opened on Launchpad (1), but I still have major issues with the battery in my bq E4.5. The statistics are incorrect, which means it's impossible to know if the phone is charged or not. Which in turn leads to