Re: [Ubuntu-phone] shared library packages and dependencies on mobile

2013-05-14 Thread Ted Gould
We expect that applications that need sophisticated dependency schemes will include those dependencies in their own packages. There will be a base image that everyone can depend on, but beyond that, you'll need to BYOD (bring your own dependency). There'll be a difference between packages that

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] shared library packages and dependencies on mobile

2013-05-14 Thread Ted Gould
, May 14, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't see any reason that this is LGPL incompatible. It just means that the app author needs to provide sources for the library that they include. Just like I can provide a binary

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] s/qml-phone-shell/unity8/g; or: we've renamed qml-phone-shell to unity8

2013-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 01:05 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: The code has moved from lp:unity/phablet [1] to lp:unity/8.0 [2]. We've also reset the history (i.e. started with a clean bzr branch) to not drag around all the demo assets that we've used in the past. That means that all the branches

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] System logging

2013-06-10 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 10:17 +0200, Michael Zanetti wrote: I've been thinking about some small daemon that would collect CPU times of apps and send that to some stats server in an automated manner. I think that would be very useful. Shouldn't be too hard to create some snapshots every x

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 11:09 -0400, Bill Filler wrote: If you install latest build (saucy-39) and apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade the networking indicator has toggle switches for wifi and 3g. Is there a merge proposal for this somewhere? Or was it just done in the throw away project? Ted

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

2013-07-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 11:38 -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote: Is there an API for this already? Is it something we're going to handle? Low level, yes. I think this needs to get migrated into the Qt Ubuntu plugin.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can I use the internet?

2013-07-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 14:50 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:12:42AM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: In implementing the Time and Date settings[0], I need to know how to answer the question in the subject. We have NM's D-Bus

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can I use the internet?

2013-07-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 08:23 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: On 07/30/2013 08:12 AM, Ted Gould wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 10:44 +0100, Iain Lane wrote: In implementing the Time and Date settings[0], I need to know how to answer the question in the subject. We have NM's D-Bus API - does

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to enter PIN

2013-08-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-08-05 at 09:18 +0200, Albert Astals Cid wrote: On Saturday 03 August 2013 10:30:30 Joachim Hansen wrote: Is there a way of entering sim card PIN in Ubuntu touch? Or do I need to turn the sim cards PIN requirement off in an other phone and then put it back in my Ubuntu phone?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] App Confinement for Core Apps

2013-08-12 Thread Ted Gould
I think the question you're asking is good, but not one we have a concrete answer for. In general, we'd love all apps including core apps to be completely confined. It's unlikely we'll get to that point for v1.0. And, in general, we might want core apps to access something outside of what

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Catching CPU run-aways on Touch

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 14:35 +0100, Evan Dandrea wrote: On 4 September 2013 12:25, Thomas Voß thomas.v...@canonical.com wrote: +1, the respective grace/timeout period would need to be determined from empirical data, too. Agreed. I think that it should also be per-service. For instance,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Catching CPU run-aways on Touch

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 11:01 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 10:22:59AM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: It seems to me for all of these long running services the manager of them is Upstart. It restarts them if they crash or do other stupid things, and it knows whether they're

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Catching CPU run-aways on Touch

2013-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 11:32 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 01:16:07PM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: I wasn't intending to say upstart should do it more that we should put it in the Upstart job configuration and use that as our basis. That's what I was trying to say

[Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher information

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Gould
Hello, Folks have been pushing me (rightfully so) to get a little more user friendly documentation out there about the URL Dispatcher. I went ahead and wrote up this Wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/URLDispatcher For those that are looking for the source code for the service it is here:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher information

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 15:58 -0400, Alexandre Abreu wrote: It might be a little pedantic, but shouldn't we talk about URI instead of URL? Yeah, that is a little pendantic :-) Perhaps, but I think for most people they're synonymous. Besides that a few questions: - Is APP_ID going to be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher information

2013-09-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 15:38 -0500, Jamie Strandboge wrote: On 09/18/2013 01:31 PM, Ted Gould wrote: Folks have been pushing me (rightfully so) to get a little more user friendly documentation out there about the URL Dispatcher. I went ahead and wrote up this Wiki page: https

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WARNING: Use application:/// URLs, not application://

2013-09-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 15:07 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: Please, if you maintain a component generating or consuming application:// URLs, would you make sure the app name or .desktop file name remains mixed case through your component and/or that you pass it in the path part of the URL to other

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Library dependency support in click packages?

2013-09-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:51 -0600, Matthew Fischer wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 17:37 -0400, Scott Sweeny wrote: One thing click could do is look (at build time) at what external libraries

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Anybody have Adobe Illustrator?

2013-09-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 17:15 +0100, Sam Bull wrote: On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 16:14 +0100, David Aizenberg wrote: Does it work? https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3U7iD3eG4-jdFBJcnA1My1CMFU/edit?usp=sharing Yep, thanks, that's worked, and thanks everyone else for the offers. Unfortunately,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Image 77 automated testing summary

2013-10-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 21:50 -0500, Paul Larson wrote: Music app found a crash in url-dispatcher again, so that still seems to be a random failure we see: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4525/music-app-autopilot/ I think that it is likely because of this error:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Image 77 automated testing summary

2013-10-03 Thread Ted Gould
-02 at 22:42 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: On Wed, 2013-10-02 at 21:50 -0500, Paul Larson wrote: Music app found a crash in url-dispatcher again, so that still seems to be a random failure we see: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4525/music-app-autopilot/ I think

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Messaging API

2013-10-15 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 08:13 -0500, Israel wrote: Hi is anyone aware of the API to integrate with messaging service for the Ubuntu Touch platform? I would also like to integrate with the desktop messaging menu services as well. I was not able to find this information on the developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Messaging API

2013-10-15 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-10-15 at 21:30 -0500, Israel wrote: After a quick look, I realized I need to include that I want to share text in a text message. I assume that isn't covered in the messaging menu, or Gwibber portion. Is there something you can point me to that would help in that regard as well?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] TTS

2013-10-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 15:53 -0500, Israel wrote: I'm wondering if there has been any discussion of a TTS (text to speech) being implemented on Ubuntu Touch, and if so, where could I find any information. If not, what would be the best place to open an issue for discussion, or who

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] TTS

2013-10-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-10-21 at 18:28 -0500, Israel wrote: I may have been too brief in my initial e-mail. No, I misread it. :-) Glad Luke was able to help though! Ted signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-10-23 at 11:09 +0200, Thomas Voß wrote: On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Rasmus Eneman ras...@eneman.eu wrote: my point of view is still that forcing every little small app to bring its own daemon will: a) scare off people for writing apps for our platform as the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

2013-10-24 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:36 -0400, Rick Spencer wrote: So I am saying the opposite. Rather than allowing apps to create background services I think we should stick to the original vision. Apps use well known APIs for their functionality, or the the user keeps the app in front and alive on the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Url Dispatcher

2013-10-30 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 10:14 +0100, Sam Segers wrote: Is there an eta for being able to recieve url calls in your own application? It's on my TODO list, I don't have a specific ETA. That brings another question to how to form a url for music for a internet stream? Now the music only

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Desktop file parsing - lets standardize

2013-11-12 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:56 +, Gerry Boland wrote: The cache is generated by the tool that can be found at [5]. The main point of the cache is answering complex questions like give me the apps associated with application/pdf, though it will also probably speed up single .desktop-file

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects

2013-11-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 15:55 +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: On 26.11.2013 14:54, Ursula Junque wrote: I started a wiki page to document this information [1]. There's an old page [2] that probably should be revisited and merged with this one. While this isn't settled, I'd like to ask people

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher progress?

2013-12-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 19:52 +, Sam Bull wrote: Has there been any progress on the URL dispatcher supporting additional protocols? We need to support the bitcoin: protocol from our app, so that users can purchase things by clicking a link in the browser, or scanning a bitcoin: link from

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WARNING: Use application:/// URLs, not application://

2013-12-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:48 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: Am I doing something wrong? Not wrong, but it moved to being a click package, which means it needs a slightly more complex URL. appid://com.ubuntu.terminal/terminal/current-user-version That should open the lastest version installed

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WARNING: Use application:/// URLs, not application://

2013-12-20 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 20:09 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: On 12/18/2013 08:59 PM, Ted Gould wrote: On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 20:48 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: Am I doing something wrong? Not wrong, but it moved to being a click package, which means it needs a slightly more

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu terminal application starting with an optional current directory

2013-12-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2013-12-21 at 17:42 -0200, Carlos J Mazieri wrote: Actually the terminal opens in /home/phablet. I'd like to start the Ubuntu Terminal Application opening another directory as initial work directory. I am using

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] URL Dispatcher progress?

2013-12-23 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2013-12-23 at 16:29 +0100, Michał Sawicz wrote: On 03.12.2013 10:52, Ted Gould wrote: Thoughts? How about mimetype? The delivery protocol is one thing, but the actual content is another. I.e. how would you make *a video player* open a remote video delivered over http, without

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Indicator qml binding

2014-01-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-01-04 at 16:40 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: Are there any plans to expose unity8 indicator qml binding present in Ubuntu sdk , to allow user developed indicators ( such as cpu usage, or hamster indicator ) for next generation Ubuntu desktop. Or do we have to use qmenumodel .

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 11:51 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: To start off this amazing new year, I wanted to share a slide deck that outlines two exciting improvements to our engineering process that we will roll out during January. -

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Emulator + Autopilot = Win

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-01-07 at 14:50 +, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: Whilst the emulator improvement work is on-going, I've spend some time getting autopilot tests execution using the emulator running. Awesome. I knew something cool was brewing from your questions in IRC ;-) I've also wrote a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Clock App Alarms Review and Current Status

2014-01-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 00:23 +0100, Nekhelesh Ramananthan wrote: Please correct me if I am wrong here but I believed that since the core apps are packaged as click packages on the phone, they are not affected by the feature freeze deadline. But I am guessing the ubuntu-ui-toolkit package would

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: Changes to our Upstream Landing and Merge Review Practices in January

2014-01-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 08:34 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: (I wish we can enforce maintenance branch around lp:foo/distro_version, but I guess I'll save the debate for later ;)) For those who are interested I attached my script that we use to do this. It makes it easy and makes Didier smile,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: ANN: Ubuntu Core/Touch Android 4.4 support touch engineering platform/devices/hardware going forward

2014-01-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 19:19 +0400, Зонов Роман wrote: Sorry. but your decision about manta is minimum...strange. IMHO, manta is very important for development. Not because I have one, because manta is a tablet with 10-inch display. Manta is an ideal tablet for UT and, IMHO, development must

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multiple frameworks for apps

2014-01-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 11:48 -0600, Jamie Strandboge wrote: frameworks: ubuntu-sdk-13.10, ubuntu-14.04-qml Don't have strong opinions on the rest of the thread, but can we please make this: frameworks: [ubuntu-sdk-13.10, ubuntu-14.04-qml] Would hate to embed another format to parse

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 18:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: I'm now facing the choice of how to implement all the above; my original idea was to execute the plugin with aa-exec-click, but before jumping on that solution I'd like to double check with a wider audience. I've been told that the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: I had a quick look at the untrusted helper branch, but I couldn't understand if it's suitable for my case: * Start an untrusted helper for a specific @type on a given * @appid. We don't know how that is done specifically, as

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Executing binaries from click packages, under confinement

2014-02-05 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 16:50 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: On 02/04/2014 04:13 PM, Ted Gould wrote: On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 10:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: I had a quick look at the untrusted helper branch, but I couldn't understand if it's suitable for my case: * Start

[Ubuntu-phone] Managing Test Plans and Merge policies

2014-02-05 Thread Ted Gould
Hello, As folks are surely aware we're having to create a bunch of acceptance test plans and merge policies to be used as part of the CI Train process. For my part of that I went ahead and put them into the project repositories so that new tests can easily be added as the features land¹ instead

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Managing Test Plans and Merge policies

2014-02-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-02-13 at 13:05 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: Thanks Ted! I suggest addint this to testplan-to-wiki: -e s/a href=\\([^\]*\)\\(.*\)\/a/[[\\1|\\2]]/ \ so that HTML a links can be processed. Cool, I added it to my version and updated the wiki page:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Summarizing up issues on current touch 4.4 based image

2014-02-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 12:00 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: As told yesterday in landing team email, we are blocking any landing impacting Touch right now to get all focus and energy on fixing issues without introducing newer one. Not trying to be an ass about it, but isn't the process to drop

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-03-03 at 02:50 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Manuel de la Pena manuel.delap...@canonical.com wrote: I don't like the fact that udm is dooimd the click package installations but it is done because there is no guarantee that the scope will be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 14:34 -0500, Ryan Lortie wrote: - on bootup we see the last song played before last shutdown - not likely a problem in any volatile storage situation - after the user logs out we see what was playing when they were logged in - the user is logged in, but

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Download Manager broken since #213

2014-03-06 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 13:02 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: What we're doing for alarms is having the application provide a URL that gets called if the user clicks on the notification. So the clock app sets up an alarm

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 16:16 -0600, Leo Arias wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak lukasz.zemc...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, On 12.03.2014 18:00, Didier Roche wrote: We might need to have some view on

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-03-21 at 15:08 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote: On the front of data, we haven't seen much new. For instance we only know about a single case where this all halt event has negative impact; so please speak up if you are affected. Generally if you want to know the impact to me you can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Qt 5.2 - Events are queued when rendering blocked

2014-03-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 20:19 +0100, Thomas Voß wrote: Right now, we are considering the second alternative as it is much less intrusive. In the shell, we will leverage Mir's input event filter chains and offload reacting to certain kind of input events to a thread independent of Qt's UI

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 25.03.14

2014-03-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 02:09 -0600, Selene Scriven wrote: - After setting an alarm, the time indicator shows that it is actually set for a different time zone. For example, I'm in UTC-6. I set an alarm for 1am. The alarm actually gets set for 7am instead. The edit alarm -

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Error Tracker retracing armhf crashes

2014-03-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-03-26 at 16:15 -0700, Brian Murray wrote: Last week the Ubuntu Error tracker infrastructure, thanks to the hard work of the Canonical Web Ops team (particularly David Ames), switched from running on specific hardware systems to using Canonical's internal cloud. An exciting

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Autopilot / UpstartAppLaunch and Secondary applications

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:10 +1200, Thomi Richards wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Leo Arias leo.ar...@canonical.com wrote: (Bill) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtubuntu/+bug/1297900 - seems to only

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Autopilot / UpstartAppLaunch and Secondary applications

2014-04-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 11:22 -0600, Leo Arias wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Ted Gould t...@canonical.com wrote: I think that the issue isn't with start but with stop. Autopilot is calling stop and expecting the app to be stopped after that call returns. Where

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Debugging support in UAL

2014-04-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-04-11 at 12:31 +0200, Benjamin Zeller wrote: with Unity8 on the desktop and on our devices there will be only one way to start a application. I think that we should look at this slightly differently: The system requires knowledge and management of applications from before

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 14:10 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 19:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Rodney Dawes [2014-04-16 13:02 -0400]: We're talking about one app loading the translations for all apps. FWIW, that might be too slow regardless of which approach we use.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 11:09 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 09:52 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 14:10 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-16 at 19:11 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: Rodney Dawes [2014-04-16 13:02 -0400]: We're talking about one

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 13:21 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: The cache also doesn't solve the problem of deciding whether to use inline translations in .desktop files, or to use .mo files for the translations. All it does is move the parsing to another point in time. The performance and battery

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing app metadata

2014-04-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 22:23 -0400, Rodney Dawes wrote: There's also other potential issues with confinement of apps and such, I think. Do we have plans to deal with all those issues to continue supporting quick lists in the converged Unity8 experience? Or is it going to be a necessary loss in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 22:08 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: One of the customizations we've identified as necessary is support for upstart jobs or overrides shipped in the custom tarball. Currently, we ship some upstart jobs in the ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks package, but those should be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: We currently have some upstart jobs that set certain env variables, like the dconf db/profile to use the customized dconf keys. It seems like this should be the default, not something in the custom tarball. Is there any reason we'd not

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: We currently have some upstart jobs that set certain env variables, like the dconf

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 09:20 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 11:36 -0400, Tony Espy wrote: On 05/01/2014 09:16 PM, Ted Gould wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 18:28 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com mailto:t...@ubuntu.com wrote: snip That's why we have the -customized images

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 08:38 -0700, Alex Chiang wrote: On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-01 at 17:01 -0400, Chris Wayne wrote: Also a carrier may want to enable/disable certain services (think 4g tethering) for example, This seems like

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 09.05.14

2014-05-09 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 18:23 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: What interesting things can be seen in #19? - A new unity8 has been released, currently dropping support for HUD from the bottom edge Is there a way to activate HUD in the mean time? We'll need to be able to do that so that

[Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
Hello Folks, Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu App Launch! We've discussed it before and I've got a MR ready for UAL to make the naming change so that we're ready to move away from Upstart as our Init system. I'd like to work with folks on running sed through their code and landing

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
reason to not provide a symlink, or a wrapper script that issues a deprecation warning when run, for compatibility? On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 11:13 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: Hello Folks, Upstart App Launch is dead, long live Ubuntu App Launch! We've discussed it before and I've got a MR ready

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Renaming to: Ubuntu App Launch

2014-05-22 Thread Ted Gould
as well? If not, then at least a symlink will be required until they are all regenerated. On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 11:43 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: No reason to take on tech debt if we don't have to. Certainly if a bunch of people reply that it's an issue it's not impossible to do

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
While I think you already got an answer to your immediate question, I think that this sounds interesting and perhaps something that could be integrated with the application startup testing that QA is setting up. Would be nice to have a screenshot there, and perhaps invalidate results based on it.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replacement for upstart-app-stop?

2014-06-07 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 15:57 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: Unfortunately I get a bunch of crash files in /var/crash, and need to do some correlation to figure out which app crashed it. I'll modify my script to look for files in /var/crash after every application start/stop cycle and pause so I can

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] split greeter revert

2014-06-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-06-11 at 11:19 -0500, Kevin Gunn wrote: After landing we've identified a handful of knock-on problems, mostly around synchronization, listed here https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter-session-broadcast/+bug/1328187 It seems that most of the items there are things we already

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks, please include in your next MP

2014-06-13 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-06-13 at 14:33 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: I think in that case, we do want changes from the archive to be landed directly to the upstream branches in question, which I believe is already at least somewhat automated. Could you expand on your concern regarding wrong versions?

[Ubuntu-phone] Extra desktop files in application directory

2014-06-16 Thread Ted Gould
Hello folks, Last week we had an image or two where the desktop hook in the Click package was running instead of the one in Ubuntu App Launch. The symptom at the time was that packages couldn't be uninstalled. That is fixed in the current images and all promoted images. One lingering result of

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCEMENT: Landers! CI Train redeployed to support the RTM distribution + more

2014-08-14 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2014-08-14 at 22:14 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: 1. Whenever a new landing is added there is a new column that needs to be filled from now on. The column name is Target distribution. From the drop-down menu you can currently select one from ubuntu/utopic, ubuntu/trusty and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 18.08.14

2014-08-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 19:36 +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: The ubuntu-app-launch cgroup-enabled issue that's causing many test failures in our infrastructure has been locked-on and confirmed, with the most probable current root cause located in cgmanager or upstart itself. Since this

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] HUD

2014-08-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 23:04 +0530, sampth kumar krishnan wrote: What happened to the heads up display that used to exist on the trusty platform? Is it coming back in the next few builds before the rtm? No :-( It got killed by the switch to give applications full control of the bottom swipe,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ownCloud app.

2014-08-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 16:54 +0200, Fabio Colella wrote: There is also the problem of background syncing. Is any service currently available for that? Because it would be really weird if the user has to wait with the app open while up or downloading.. No, there would need to be an OwnCloud

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ownCloud app.

2014-08-28 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 19:38 +0200, Daniel Holm wrote: No, there would need to be an OwnCloud module that would send Push Messages to a subscribed device so that its push helper could setup downloads (with appropriate config to whether it should download on cell service or wait for

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ownCloud app.

2014-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Sat, 2014-08-30 at 22:51 +0200, Michał Sawicz wrote: Another approach I was thinking of is allowing multiple plugins of the same account type exist (so every app would ship their own copy) and deduplicating based on type and compatibility version. This has some technical difficulties

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Toolkit: preparing to remove dependency towards Unity.Actions

2014-09-04 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 17:21 +0300, Zsombor Egri wrote: We are evaluating the removal of Unity Actions dependency from the toolkit. This would mean that the components used now by the toolkit will appear as components exported by the toolkit itself (i.e not from Unity.Actions). These components

[Ubuntu-phone] Toy: ubuntu-app-test

2014-09-12 Thread Ted Gould
People have generally felt a little bit restricted with our application lifecycle/containment and wanted to just run it more than once. While I will continuously fight back on that as part of the shipping system, I thought it might be fun to make something that would allow for that. So I made a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Push Daemon, Account Notifications and Scopes, Location service

2014-09-16 Thread Ted Gould
By we here you mean that you're going to send the data to the messaging menu and let it determine whether to show it or not, correct? Ted On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 19:33 +0100, John Lenton wrote: (But we will) On 16 Sep 2014 19:29, Roberto Alsina roberto.als...@canonical.com wrote:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Push Daemon, Account Notifications and Scopes, Location service

2014-09-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 18:07 -0300, Roberto Alsina wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Ted Gould t...@ubuntu.com wrote: By we here you mean that you're going to send the data to the messaging menu and let it determine whether to show it or not, correct

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Manually setting WIFI connection

2014-09-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 16:52 +0300, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: On 26.09.2014 13:37, Brendan Donegan wrote: System Settings Wi-Fi Connect to hidden network (is this title confusing?) Enter the SSID and make sure to choose WPA WPA2 Personal On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:53 AM, Marco F

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] vivid landings

2014-11-01 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 14:25 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:14:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Fixes for specific bugs targeted for our upcoming customer-oriented release should continue to be landed to ubuntu-rtm/14.09. Anything else that is not being landed for

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] vivid landings

2014-11-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 01:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 12:16:44PM -0500, Ted Gould wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 14:25 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 02:14:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: Fixes for specific bugs targeted for our upcoming

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Usage of Online Accounts by windowless processes (account-polld, sync-monitor, scopes...)

2014-12-02 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 14:01 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: There are a few processes which don't have a connection to Mir but are using OA; I know of account-polld and sync-monitor, plus the scopes via the unity-scopes-api, but there might be more. When these processes request a token and OA

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Webapp questions

2014-12-10 Thread Ted Gould
://github.com/ted-gould/nespresso-webapp We do plan to have a user override for this in settings, currently on the TODO list. Currently if you install a webapp that handles the URL it will always handle the URL. o Is there any possibility of coding a different opening for the webapp, so

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Some problems with vivid on a Nexus 4

2014-12-21 Thread Ted Gould
On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 13:04 +, Chris Croome wrote: Another issue I have is the battery draining very fast, the graph goes down at almost 45 degrees sometimes, with the load average around 3 (top shows 2 CPU cores) even when I have no apps open and the screen is off and the phone is in

[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone User: Manager at Braum's

2014-12-22 Thread Ted Gould
Around here we have an ice cream shop call Braum's¹ where yesterday we went to celebrate my son's birthday with his aunt and uncle. When I was checking out I was asked Have you seen that Ubuntu software on phones? After realizing the question was prompted by my Ubuntu hat I played dumb a little

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Notice for Application Developers regarding Full shell rotation landing soon

2015-02-02 Thread Ted Gould
Is there general guidance about how scopes will be displayed in landscape? Will the two column view be used in most cases? I do realize I could just install the PPA and find out, but I thought the question/discussion might be generally useful for developers. :-) Ted On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 05:10

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Heads up: default app namespace format has changed

2015-01-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2015-01-15 at 20:03 -0200, Martin Albisetti wrote: Now that we're approaching convergence with the desktop on the one hand, and Snappy on the other, it becomes more common (or in the case of Snappy, the only way!) to interact with apps from a command line. The reality is, the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sound -indicator UX suggestion

2015-02-17 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 21:11 +, Thibaut Dedreuil_monet wrote: I am suggesting to place the sound-indicator also in the header of the dash as shown in the attached mockup. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here, and I think your mockup might be slightly corrupted. The sound indicator

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sound -indicator UX suggestion

2015-02-18 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 05:03 -0800, dedreuil thibaut wrote: Yes Marco got it. I was talking about the volume notification bubble. 99% of the time i am aware i am modifying the volume and i just want to know what is my current volume and what is my future volume. Placing it in the top panel

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Scopes default store behaviour

2015-03-16 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 10:11 -0300, Alejandro J. Cura wrote: My proposal is to find some simple way to give the developer of a package some control over this option: whether to show the package in question in the store as a scope or as an app. It seems to me the simplest is just to always

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