[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread J Carerra
You say "addresses on a local DNS server will resolve." What about the vast majority of people who do not have a local DNS server and rely on internet DNS? -- ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/114

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-11-03 Thread J Carerra
RE: the previous three... h...I am sure I have seen cases where ntpd is running, but no associations are active; therefore, I am not sure that just testing if ntpd is running fully covers all possible cases.. -- ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names;

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-28 Thread J Carerra
cwsupport, this should be a great help to getting this fixed (has been known a LONG time--should have been fixed in Gutsy and Hardy). However, there is one part of your logic I do not understand: >After all - ntpdate should only be used automatically if ntp as a service has been started. I think

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-27 Thread J Carerra
I did some web research. The command is "hwclock --systohc" This should be part of the fix (or at least made an option somehow) to run after ntpdate, for the reason previously cited. -- ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover https:

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-27 Thread J Carerra
>J Carrera, I do not know what you mean by "'write to hardware switch' to ntpdate". Sorry, I am on long travel and don't have my linux machine. As I recall it is something involving "--hwclock" or something like that. It may even be a separate command rather than an ntpdate switch. Maybe "date

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-26 Thread J Carerra
It is illuminating to look at syslog in an editor/viewer just after a boot and search for 'ntp.' That will show you the ntpd and ntpdate calls--easily showing if multiple attempts are happening. You can also see if ntpd is making associations, look to see if interfaces are up, if dhcp addresses h

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-26 Thread J Carerra
Onno, would you please elaborate on the "patch" you posted... -What files does it modify, delete, or add? -What, in detail, does it do, exactly, step by step? -How does one employ/deploy it? -To what versions can it be applied? Thanks. -- ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolv

[Bug 114505] Re: ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover

2008-10-26 Thread J Carerra
Moderators may delete this post if you wish.. I just have to say it is truly incredible this issue is not fixed in Hardy. It has been known for a long time and the fundamental cause is known--the necessary sequence of getting the internet connection to be fully functioning (eth0, dhcp, etc) befor