[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
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[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales:
Whiteboard changed:
--- User Stories ---
--- Risks ---
--- Test Plans ---
--- Release Note ---
--- Blog Post ---
- (Needs spec and work item definition) -[a.rosales; 12-DEC-2012]
+ (Needs spec and WI definition) -[a.rosales; 12-DEC-2012]
--- UDS Discussion ---
We've learned a lot since the creation of charm helper. Debian packagers
took 7 iterations before boiling all of debhelper's goodness into a
declarative system. We can learn from them, and get there in our second
iteration.
Discussion:
Charm-helper is not easily discoverable, poorly documented, and not as
awesome as it could be.
dannf likes to write makefiles
sources list
config settings with meaning
want common things to go in a declarative charm
get rid of copied lib files/folder
Maintain charm-helper seperately from juju, calling it at the top of the hook
vs included in juju trunk
What happens during upgrade-charm or if a pakcage gets removed?
Juju can't help with leader election across units of a service, but
charm-helper could)
Work:
- describe how to handle lifecycle changes for packages in
charm-helper/packages (also thinkof: upgrade-charm)
- install packages
- debconf preseeding too
- templating and/or building config files with dotd/concat partials
(erb_template _and_ cheetah_template helpers)?
- remote_files
- deploy from {distro,ppa,upstream?} ?
- Manage config files (dynamic, static, etc)
- Sanitize relation settings (potential risk of SQL Ejection, highjacking,
terror)
- Plugin based for easy extension of charm-helper
- leader election (perhaps somewhere other than charmhelper)
- private files (SSL certs) ... no clue...
- Collaborate on files that no charm owns
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[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales:
Whiteboard changed:
+ --- User Stories ---
+
+ --- Risks ---
+
+ --- Test Plans ---
+
+ --- Release Note ---
+
+ --- Blog Post ---
+
+ (Needs spec and work item definition) -[a.rosales; 12-DEC-2012]
+
+ --- UDS Discussion ---
+
We've learned a lot since the creation of charm helper. Debian packagers
took 7 iterations before boiling all of debhelper's goodness into a
declarative system. We can learn from them, and get there in our second
iteration.
Discussion:
Charm-helper is not easily discoverable, poorly documented, and not as
awesome as it could be.
dannf likes to write makefiles
sources list
config settings with meaning
want common things to go in a declarative charm
get rid of copied lib files/folder
Maintain charm-helper seperately from juju, calling it at the top of the hook
vs included in juju trunk
What happens during upgrade-charm or if a pakcage gets removed?
Juju can't help with leader election across units of a service, but
charm-helper could)
Work:
- describe how to handle lifecycle changes for packages in
charm-helper/packages (also thinkof: upgrade-charm)
- install packages
- debconf preseeding too
- templating and/or building config files with dotd/concat partials
(erb_template _and_ cheetah_template helpers)?
- remote_files
- deploy from {distro,ppa,upstream?} ?
- Manage config files (dynamic, static, etc)
- Sanitize relation settings (potential risk of SQL Ejection, highjacking,
terror)
- Plugin based for easy extension of charm-helper
- leader election (perhaps somewhere other than charmhelper)
- private files (SSL certs) ... no clue...
- Collaborate on files that no charm owns
--
Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2
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[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
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[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Assignee: Clint Byrum = Mark Mims -- Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2 -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Approver: (none) = Antonio Rosales -- Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2 -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Clint Byrum:
Whiteboard set to:
We've learned a lot since the creation of charm helper. Debian packagers took
7 iterations before boiling all of debhelper's goodness into a declarative
system. We can learn from them, and get there in our second iteration.
Discussion:
Charm-helper is not easily discoverable, poorly documented, and not as awesome
as it could be.
dannf likes to write makefiles
sources list
config settings with meaning
want common things to go in a declarative charm
get rid of copied lib files/folder
Maintain charm-helper seperately from juju, calling it at the top of the hook
vs included in juju trunk
What happens during upgrade-charm or if a pakcage gets removed?
Juju can't help with leader election across units of a service, but
charm-helper could)
Work items:
- describe how to handle lifecycle changes for packages in
charm-helper/packages (also thinkof: upgrade-charm)
- install packages
- debconf preseeding too
- templating and/or building config files with dotd/concat partials
(erb_template _and_ cheetah_template helpers)?
- remote_files
- deploy from {distro,ppa,upstream?} ?
- Manage config files (dynamic, static, etc)
- Sanitize relation settings (potential risk of SQL Ejection, highjacking,
terror)
- Plugin based for easy extension of charm-helper
- leader election (perhaps somewhere other than charmhelper)
- private files (SSL certs) ... no clue...
- Collaborate on files that no charm owns
--
Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2
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[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Chris Johnston:
Whiteboard changed:
We've learned a lot since the creation of charm helper. Debian packagers
took 7 iterations before boiling all of debhelper's goodness into a
declarative system. We can learn from them, and get there in our second
iteration.
Discussion:
Charm-helper is not easily discoverable, poorly documented, and not as
awesome as it could be.
dannf likes to write makefiles
sources list
config settings with meaning
want common things to go in a declarative charm
get rid of copied lib files/folder
Maintain charm-helper seperately from juju, calling it at the top of the hook
vs included in juju trunk
What happens during upgrade-charm or if a pakcage gets removed?
Juju can't help with leader election across units of a service, but
charm-helper could)
- Work items:
+ Work:
- describe how to handle lifecycle changes for packages in
charm-helper/packages (also thinkof: upgrade-charm)
- install packages
- debconf preseeding too
- templating and/or building config files with dotd/concat partials
(erb_template _and_ cheetah_template helpers)?
- remote_files
- deploy from {distro,ppa,upstream?} ?
- Manage config files (dynamic, static, etc)
- Sanitize relation settings (potential risk of SQL Ejection, highjacking,
terror)
- Plugin based for easy extension of charm-helper
- leader election (perhaps somewhere other than charmhelper)
- private files (SSL certs) ... no clue...
- Collaborate on files that no charm owns
--
Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2
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[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Dave Walker: Definition Status: New = Discussion -- Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2 -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Blueprint servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2] Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming
Blueprint changed by Antonio Rosales: Drafter: Clint Byrum = Ubuntu Server Team -- Charm Helper 2 - Declarative Charming https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-juju-charmhelper2 -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
