[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-20 Thread LaMont Jones
I suspect that the issue here is that the config file was modified (values set) during install, and then the file changed outside of debconf later, and then installed again, resulting in postfix honoring the debconf values it had been told to enforce. There are several values that postfix expects

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-20 Thread Mephisto
I'm not setting any values in debconf, I'm only installing the package (non-interactive) and doing configuration in puppet also. You are right that puppet will re-enforce our configuration, however, we are not using the puppet agent, so resetting the value might take up to a few weeks,

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-20 Thread Robie Basak
Thank you for your further investigations. I appreciate that this could be a bug. But since I still can't see how we might reproduce your issue, I don't think that we yet have clarity on the set of circumstances that might cause your problem. Without this clarity, I don't think that we can

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-19 Thread Mephisto
Today I had to install postfix again, but manually (entering apt-get install on commandline) and saw in the console output the following lines: setting inet_interfaces: loopback-only This reminded me of this issue and gave me a clue where the problem is. I think the problem is not directly with

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
I think that's not a supported configuration. I'm not sure how you got it installed that way to begin with. ** Changed in: postfix (Ubuntu) Importance: High = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to postfix in

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-19 Thread Mephisto
As you can read in the first posting, I simply installed it with puppet. Doesn't seem like such a rare scenario to me. I think any company with a substantial amount of servers should be using some form of configuration management. I think any completely non-interactive installation method will end

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-11-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Re debconf, thats not really a factor. Not answering the questions just uses defaults, but debconf and the maintainer scripts that use it do not change their behavior. Indeed, I think this issue doesn't seem to have much helpful information. I'm going to close it as Invalid. ** Changed in: puppet

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-10-16 Thread Robie Basak
Marking Incomplete, since others have tried failed to reproduce, and it seems likely that this is a local configuration issue rather than a bug in Postfix. If you can provide exact steps to reproduce without using puppet, then please do so and re-open. ** Changed in: puppet (Ubuntu)

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-10-16 Thread Mephisto
Even though I have the suspicion it is caused by not doing debconf (as puppet does not ask questions, but just installs with default values), I too can't reproduce it on a test-VM with the exact same debconf values as one of our servers. I have no idea what puppet does to cause this behavior

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-09-12 Thread Dave Walker
** Changed in: puppet (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to puppet in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1027061 Title: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-09-12 Thread Serge Hallyn
I installed postfix, set inet_interfaces to loopback_only, restarted postfix, then reinstalled with dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postf*. The inet_interfaces line did not get re-written. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-09-09 Thread Clint Byrum
Setting back to New. Somebody needs to try the suggested test case of installing postfix, changing the config file, and then upgrading, to see if the file is changed. Of course, the config file belongs to postfix, so if force-confnew is in use, that would make sense too, so it would be good to get

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-29 Thread Mephisto
If this is any help, here is the installation log (/var/log/apt/history.log) from the package upgrade that changed the config file: Start-Date: 2012-07-20 06:39:28 Commandline: apt-get -qq -y upgrade Upgrade: postfix:amd64 (2.9.1-5, 2.9.3-2~12.04.1) End-Date: 2012-07-20 06:39:31 This is not an

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-28 Thread William Van Hevelingen
Oops missed a previous comment. I don't think this is a problem with puppet though. Puppet ensures the state of that file, it won't change values unless the manifest was changed by the user. ** Changed in: puppet (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
I've never seen anything like this with postfix before. If someone can give me a way to reproduce it when puppet is not involved, then I could trouble shoot that, but I don't think this is a postfix issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team,

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-27 Thread Tyler Hicks
** Visibility changed to: Public -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to postfix in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1027061 Title: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files To manage

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
I can't replicate this with postfix and apt, so I suspect the puppet involvement being where the issue is. BTW, while I agree that configurations shouldn't be mucked with, there's no security issue here as postfix is not an open relay by default. It takes some work to get it to behave that way.

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-27 Thread Tyler Hicks
Thanks for having a look, Scott. I'm unsubscribing ubuntu-security and marking this as a regular, non-security bug. ** This bug is no longer flagged as a security vulnerability -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to puppet in

[Bug 1027061] Re: Postfix upgrade to 2.9.3-2~12.04.1 changes configuration files

2012-07-27 Thread Mephisto
It should be easy to reproduce this. Simply installing postfix on a fresh server installation in the background (so without any use interaction) and then chenging the configuration file should do it. Puppet does nothing special with the package. Also, it uses aptitude to install it, if that makes