[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
This is bad. Please fix this asap. ** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu) Importance: Low => High ** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged ** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ben Howard (utlemming) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to cloud-init in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177432 Title: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1177432/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to cloud-init in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177432 Title: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1177432/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
Just ran into this issue again today when testing the LXD backport. This is pretty annoying as it's causing a completely different user experience for cloud users compared to regular distro users. Also, at least in trusty, apt-add-repository doesn't know how to add backports, so a user will need to manually update /etc/apt/sources.list and then run apt-get update which makes installing backports significantly harder than it should be. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to cloud-init in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177432 Title: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1177432/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to cloud-init in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177432 Title: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1177432/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
2 comments: a.) bug 997371 is now fixed, so you should be able to do: apt-add-repository multiverse b.) some relevant discussion at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-May/014503.html ** Description changed: Backports are currently not enabled in the cloud-init template. This is needed in order to get the backport kernels on cloud images. + + + Related bugs: + * bug 997371: Create command to add multiverse and -backports to apt sources -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to cloud-init in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177432 Title: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1177432/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: cloud-init (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to cloud-init in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177432 Title: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1177432/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
== summary ==
fix this problem by creating tools to manage /etc/apt/sources.list
== details ==
I realize that cloud-init is just kind of caught in the middle here because of
the template that it has, and the fact that that template has not been updated
to keep in sync with changes made elsewhere to the default sources list.
I personally prefer the smaller sources.list that is present in the cloud
images. For reference, the differences between a server install of 13.04 cd
and cloud-init template at the moment are:
- cloud-init: (12 total entries, 2 x 3 x 2)
{deb, deb-src} $release{,-updates,-security} {main, universe}
- install cd: (32 total entries, 2 x 4 x 4)
{deb, deb-src} $release{,-updates,-security,-backports}
{main,restricted,universe,multiverse}
Ignoring multiarch, and translations, which are also multipliers, That
means 20 more GETs every time 'apt-get update' is done. That is nothing
to be scoffed at.
I put a gist at https://gist.github.com/smoser/5586288 which uses chdist to
easily time runs of 'apt-get update'. The differences are very real.
In quick tests on raring, I was seeing a refresh taking 20 seconds for full
list versus 8 seconds for cloud-images list against a locally warmed cache.
This is partially because apt is doing the GET serially, but even the
cpu decompression does take time.
My basic issue boils down to this:
* I expect that when people launch an instance, they immediately install
software on it. In order to do that, they need to run 'apt-get update'.
* If apt-get update goes from taking 8 seconds to 20 seconds, that is a
significant increase in total time to functional system.
I'd prefer that we solve this *not* by making cloud-init have a large
amount of additional sources. If I were to suggest making a change, it
would be to remove deb-src entries from /etc/apt/sources.list to make it
smaller.
My suggestion is that we fix this problem by adding tools that manipulate
/etc/apt/sources.list or sources.list.d similar to 'apt-add-repository', but
that support aliases like 'backports', 'partner', 'multiverse'.
Example usage:
- aptsources --no-source set main universe
- aptsources remove multiverse
Cloud-init can then expose such simple instructions in its cloud-config
syntax.
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[Bug 1177432] Re: Enable backports in cloud-init archive template
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