[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2011-11-14 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Okay, so after pushing Byobu for several years as a default command line experience within Ubuntu, I'm raising the white flag and surrendering :-( I've just committed revisions 1728 and 1729 to lp:byobu that approaches this from the opposite direction -- enabling Byobu lovers an easy way to

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2011-11-08 Thread Dustin Kirkland
Okay, so after pushing Byobu for several years as a default command line experience within Ubuntu, I'm raising the white flag and surrendering :-( We released Ubuntu 11.10 and enabled Byobu-by-default in our EC2 cloud images. Despite numerous compliments and thank-you's, the praise is not

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2011-11-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:byobu -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 Title: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server To manage notifications

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2011-11-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package byobu - 4.46-0ubuntu1 --- byobu (4.46-0ubuntu1) precise; urgency=low * debian/control: LP: #887344 - promote tmux to a 'recommends'; will 'depend' on it soon * === added directory etc/profile.d, etc/byobu/Makefile.am,

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-07-08 Thread Timothy R. Chavez
Sorry, I'm a bit late to the party. How would this be achieved? If it's a matter of putting 'exec /usr/bin/byobu-launcher' into .bash_profile, I have at least one concern that is security related. Based on my experience w/ byobu-launcher, it will either create a new session or attach you to an

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-07-08 Thread Malcolm Scott
Re #14 (Dustin Kirkland): Thanks; ssh -t server bash is a workaround I had somehow failed to notice. I suggest that it should be documented somewhere very obvious if byobu becomes enabled by default though. Re #16 (Timothy R. Chavez): Anyone with access to my user account effectively has

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-07-07 Thread Charlie Schluting
-1 ...fully agree with Clint (and love the BMW references). Another opinion is that byobu is unnecessary, and ugly. *sigh* This is they type of stuff that makes long-time sysadmins say horrible things like Ubuntu is a desktop OS. Really, I'm not trying to be a troll hereā€¦ I'm sure many people

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-29 Thread Clint Byrum
So, after the heated debate at UDS, I turned byobu on for a couple of my own personal servers (1 Karmic , 2 CentOS). I have turned it off on one of those machines since, but rather enjoy it for the other two. The main reason is that I ssh into that box 2 or 3 times a day from different places,

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-29 Thread Dustin Kirkland
I'll just note once again that if you want to ssh into a server that would normally launch byobu, but instead NOT launch byobu on time, just use: ssh -t yourserver bash -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
@Ciemon: Your definition is a Papercut and only applies to the Desktop Edition (as your own definition points out). A Server papercut is defined at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerPapercutsMSpec. This includes the following acceptance criterium: Obvious and non-controversial solution Moving to

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-25 Thread Thierry Carrez
@Serge: the admins can easily toggle byobu to run by default. The issue here is discoverability of the feature, not the feature itself. -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-25 Thread Malcolm Scott
In an environment with a number of Ubuntu servers, it is common (here, anyway) for a user to only run byobu on one of them, from which ssh connections to the other servers are maintained -- ssh from one server to another will take up another two lines of the terminal and provide confusing nested

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-24 Thread Thierry Carrez
Server papercuts are for obvious fixes, not for conflictual decisions. Enabling byobu by default on Ubuntu Server was discussed at UDS-M and the idea was postponed by server engineering management... so this is not valid as a papercut. ** Changed in: server-papercuts Status: New = Invalid

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-24 Thread Ciemon Dunville
Thierry, this bug has nothing to do with conflictual decisions. It is the opinion of an Ubuntu user on how critical server information can be best served to a user, as I've detailed in the description. The discussion at UDS, and the outcome have no influence on whether this a valid papercut, the

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-24 Thread Serge Hallyn
Sorry, I'm probably missing some background, but why can't the admins do ssh -t myserver byobu ? -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team,

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-21 Thread Ciemon Dunville
** Also affects: server-papercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-01 Thread Dustin Kirkland
** Changed in: byobu Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: byobu Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: byobu (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: byobu (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: byobu Status: Triaged = Invalid --

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-01 Thread C de-Avillez
I would be nice to have more details on the issues raised by Martin. -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct subscriber.

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-01 Thread Nick Barcet
While not enabling enabling byobu by default means that: - users are very unlikely to discover it, and its many benefits, - there is no standard way status messages can be easily displayed on a server console, - it is impossible to detach from a session while leaving a program running,

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-01 Thread Dustin Kirkland
I concur with Nick, except to correct him that F7 enters scrollback mode (rather than F8). -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-01 Thread Ciemon Dunville
Having spoken with Martin on irc, his co-workers use Ctrl-Alt-PgUp (or Down) to switch Vim tabs. Of course there are other ways of switching tabs; the main documented keystroke being gt. -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

[Bug 586546] Re: Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server

2010-06-01 Thread Joey Stanford
Would save me time on setup. I use this as the default for all Login/Console windows on all machines, both server and desktop. +1 from me. -- Byobu should be enabled by default for initial login to Ubuntu Server https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/586546 You received this bug notification because