[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-06-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package maas - 1.2+bzr1373+dfsg- 0ubuntu1~12.04.1 --- maas (1.2+bzr1373+dfsg-0ubuntu1~12.04.1) precise-proposed; urgency=low * MAAS Stable Release Update (LP: #1109283). See changelog entry bellow. * debian/maas-dhcp.maas-dhcp-server.upstart: leases file

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-06-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package maas - 1.2+bzr1373+dfsg-0ubuntu1 --- maas (1.2+bzr1373+dfsg-0ubuntu1) quantal-proposed; urgency=low * MAAS Stable Release Update (LP: #1109283): This SRU brings a new upstream release of MAAS that removes the usage of a cobbler code copy,

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-05-21 Thread Andres Rodriguez
Yes it will continue to work without manual configuration. We've already discussed this with ScottK via the IRC channel and he had agreed that this is good to go. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu.

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-05-21 Thread Andres Rodriguez
** Tags removed: verification-failed ** Tags added: verification-done -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise To manage

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-26 Thread Andres Rodriguez
Hi Scott, No not really... so if people set things manually, a MAAS upgrade to the SRU package won't break configurations because MAAS does not touch /etc/dnsmasq.conf at all. So MAAS upgrade should leave /etc/dnsmasq.conf as ism and dnsmasq should continue to work as expected. Cheers -- You

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
And MaaS will continue to work without manual configuration? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise To manage notifications

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Dave Walker
I wanted to avoid involvement with this SRU as I am risk of being to close to this issue to safely unbiased. However, I feel i can add some value. Therefore, please consider this to a be complementing comment - rather than pushing in either direction. My understanding is that if users used the

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 24, 2013 04:19:41 PM you wrote: Whilst i'd normally entirely agree that this update poses scope for concern, the positives outweigh these concerns. I understood that this was the primary reason this issue was progressed to the TB for discussion. Would you please point me

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Andres Rodriguez
I would also like to add the following: The non-recommend implementation of cobbler based maas-dhcp will always destroy user configuration because cobbler will always generate the file /etc/dnsmasq.conf. When a does manual configuration for their dnsmasq service (regardless of whether they are

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
I still don't think I have a clear answer to my question in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/+bug/1109283/comments/18 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Andres Rodriguez
Scott, If they did edit it and have a working system and then install the update, what will happen? If I'm reading you right, their changes, that made the system work, will be lost. Is that right? If they were to upgrade to a cobbler based MAAS version, then yes their changes (in

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Their changes won't be lost, but they also won't be used since (AIUI) you aren't using dnsmasq.conf anymore. If that's right then there are two cases: 1. Made manual dnsmasq.conf changes, but the automatic magic now works, so it doesn't matter. 2. Made manual dnsmasq.conf changes, but the

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Nobuto MURATA
2013/4/25 Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com: maas-dhcp is a universe package, that was never designed to be a core part of MAAS. It was provided as developers were making use of it, and it seemed useful to provide for this purpose. However it was intentionally left in universe. If the

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Andres Rodriguez
@Nobuto, Thanks for your input, but as described in the wikipage (which no longer exists) it was *a* way of configuring a DHCP server, not *the* prime way of configuring one. Either way, MAAS itself is *NOT* aware if there's a DHCP server configured or not. @Scott, Yes, changes won't be lost,

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, April 25, 2013 01:07:51 AM you wrote: Now, since the SRU version of MAAS can be DNS/DHCP aware, and if the user wants MAAS to manage this, then the user will have to manually migrate from using the external dnsmasq to using a MAAS managed DNS/DHCP service, which is what I believe

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-23 Thread Julian Edwards
Please don't ping pong the bug status I didn't touch the bug status. It's my understanding from reading the bug, that if users that have already manually configured things once and have a working system install the new package, things will stop working until they do additional manual

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-23 Thread Andres Rodriguez
Hi Scott, It is my understanding that if a user does something *unsupported*, say manually edit a file of an X python module to say hack their fixes in order for it to work the way they want it (which can break a system), then an SRU (or any new package version) will upgrade that file not caring

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
OK, let me see if I understand now ... If a current precise user didn't manually edit their dnsmasq.conf, then their MaaS is certain to be not working and so there's no risk of regression. If they did edit it and have a working system and then install the update, what will happen? If I'm

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:11:24 PM Julian Edwards wrote: Please don't ping pong the bug status I didn't touch the bug status. Sorry, it was a tag, not a status, but a very important one for the SRU process. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Julian Edwards
Please note that when this upgrade runs, it will render some existing installations unusable until they configure the cluster controller. Previously, MAAS depended on external configuration of DHCP etc via Cobbler or manually. Now that Cobbler has gone, it must be configured in MAAS where it was

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
I don't think making the package broken without additional configuration is acceptable in an SRU. This should have been mentioned up front. Thanks for noticing Julian. ** Tags removed: verification-done ** Tags added: verification-failed -- You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Adam Conrad
Is there no way to provide sane migration here? SRUing something that breaks people's configurations seems like a non-starter. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Andres Rodriguez
To be clear, MAAS as its currently stands in precise has a *broken* implementation of DHCP/DNS when managed by cobbler. Most of the times it did not work well out of the box and decreases the user experience. That being said, all of the stakeholders were aware and had been notified that when an

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
How are these upgrade instructions to be communicated to users? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise To manage

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
Also, it seems to me that not mentioning this in the SRU bug, well, the nicest way I can put it, is 'substantially incomplete'. This isn't the kind of thing that should be handles via I talked to someone on the release team and they said it was fine (BTW, ubuntu-sru and ubuntu-release are not

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Julian Edwards
I am largely unfamiliar with the Ubuntu SRU process so I'm contributing where I can here, please excuse my lack of understanding. I am upstream in this case so I'll write from that point of view. The existing 12.04 package is already *broken* which is the whole reason for this SRU. It was

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
Please don't ping pong the bug status. ** Tags removed: verification-done ** Tags added: verification-failed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
It might have been smarter not to shove MaaS into precise during release week, but we are where we are. It may be demo ware from an upstream PoV, but it's part of an Ubuntu LTS release. I know the general topic of MaaS was addressed with the tech board, but not, I don't believe, requiring

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Andres Rodriguez
Hi Scott, We are in the process of drafting the upgrade instructions, and we will communicate them through normal means, ML's, blog posts, etc, unless you believe a debconf message should also be showed. I, however, feel the need to clarify this, since I fail to see how the MAAS SRU is causing a

Re: [Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
Right. I got it. The point is that whatever users are using MaaS on precise now from the archive have already done some manual configuration, so the fact that the current package requires manual configuration isn't a concern from an SRU perspective. It's my understanding from reading the

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello Andres, or anyone else affected, Accepted maas into precise-proposed. The package will build now and be available at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/1.2+bzr1373+dfsg- 0ubuntu1~12.04.1 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package.

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello Andres, or anyone else affected, Accepted maas into quantal-proposed. The package will build now and be available at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/1.2+bzr1373+dfsg- 0ubuntu1 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package. See

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-04-09 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/maas ** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/quantal-proposed/maas -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas to

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-03-19 Thread Steve Langasek
** Description changed: [Impact] As part of the MAAS Next Steps bluepring [1], we would like to SRU a new version of MAAS to both Precise and Quantal. For Quantal: - - Fixes various issues +  - Fixes various issues https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/1.2+bzr1349+dfsg-0ubuntu1

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-03-15 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: maas (Ubuntu Precise) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu.

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-03-15 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: maas (Ubuntu Quantal) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu.

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-03-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~andreserl/maas/precise_packaging_sru -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise To manage notifications

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-03-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~maas-maintainers/maas/packaging.precise.sru -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to maas in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1109283 Title: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise To manage

[Bug 1109283] Re: [SRU] maas to Quantal and Precise

2013-01-29 Thread Andres Rodriguez
** Description changed: - Please SRU MAAS to Quantal and Precise + [Impact] + As part of the MAAS Next Steps bluepring [1], we would like to SRU a new version of MAAS to both Precise and Quantal. + + For Quantal: + - Fixes various issues +