Re: [Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-05-17 Thread koanhead
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 2:30 PM, julius von kohout 
592...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 are you referring to root share or usershare? root shares work properly
 and they are meant to be done by fiddling with smb.conf


I don't understand the distinction you're making.
This bug report was about attempting to share files in Nautilus- is that a
'root share' or a 'usershare'?

I don't have the old setup to test any more. I've since rebuilt the
computer and it now runs Debian Sid.
The samba shares are the same, but I did not try to use Nautilus to set
them up (I use xfce now).

What I was trying to accomplish was an anonymous public read-only share on
/media/share. It didn't work then (using Nautilus) and it doesn't work now
(having tried via editing smb.conf and using 'net usershare'). Samba
currently doesn't work at all: when I try to connect, I get error could
not download share list from server.
When it does work (apparently at random), samba *always* prompts for a
username and password, regardless of configuration. When configured with
username and password, it sometimes works and sometimes does not.

The workaround cited in my report stopped working a day or so later. I
should have updated the report at that time, but the bug was marked
'invalid' anyway and I was too discouraged to mess with it any further. I
don't need samba for authenticated shares, sshfs works fine for that.

Thanks for the information and advice, I'm sorry that it doesn't apply more
directly to the situation at hand. I tried to test permissions for 'nobody'
on the shared directory, but I can't su to nobody. The directory's mode is
744 if that helps.


 user share via nautilus does not work properly

 private shares with password (its automatically your login password)
 work.

 public (guest) shares in the home directory dont work because samba
 cannot cd into /home because /home defaul permissons are to strict for
 nobody which is the guest/public samba user.

 i had a long talk with the maintainer of nautilus-share. there are
 several possible fixes.

 1. set homedirectoy permissons for  eveyone else properly
 2. add force user = owner of the /home/'your username' directoy to smb.con
 and map to guest = bad password

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 Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:
   Binary package hint: samba

   SUMMARY:

   Following instructions to create a shared folder through Nautilus
   (right-click  Sharing Options  Share this folder, and following the
   subsequent prompts) does not always work.

   For some people, it works immediately. For other people, a solution
   has been found, which requires extra steps.

   I found this a problem across a small network of five computers:
   - one 64-bit Ubuntu (Lucid 10.04)
   - two 32-bit Ubuntu (Lucid 10.04)
   - one 32-bit Xubuntu (Lucid 10.04)
   - one Windows Vista.
   Every Ubuntu computer had the identical problem.

   Other people have reported having this problem. Examples:
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491092
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502265

   SYMPTOMS:

   When it works, everything works properly and quickly. But when it does
   not work...

   The shares appear to be created correctly. Using terminal commands, it
   is found that the machines do in fact connect. However, in Nautilus,
   the network takes approximately a minute to respond and then fails to
   find the shares.

   DISCOVERED SOLUTION:

   1. Add the following two lines under the [global] section in file
 /etc/smb.conf in every Ubuntu and Xubuntu machine:
   os level = 33
   name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins

   2. Reboot.

   3. Some people find that they have to experiment with the order of
   items in name resolve order.

   EXTRA INFORMATION:

   Package versions according to Synaptic (from the default repositories):
   - samba 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3
   - nautilus-share 0.7.2-12build1
   - system-config-samba 1.2.63-0ubuntu4

   REQUIRED ACTION:

   Shared folders should work through the GUI without workarounds and
   fiddling, just as Windows and Mac do. It should not be necessary to
   get onto the forum, search, and mess with /etc/smb.conf. (It took over
   a week for me to discover the answer.)

   ProblemType: Bug
   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
   Package: samba 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3
   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.36-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
   Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic x86_64
   Architecture: amd64
   CheckboxSubmission: 5bf569339afeaacf6d8dcc180d0a06f0
   CheckboxSystem: b1865df84255b8716d3bcc269ff410d1
   Date: Fri Jun 11 11:33:18 2010
   EcryptfsInUse: Yes
   InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64
 (20100429)
   ProcEnviron:
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
   

[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-05-17 Thread julius von kohout
Via nautilus is usershare. Via smb.conf is root share. Try to set permissions 
of home to 755  and  make a share /home/public
If you make a public share samba uses nobody/other as user to change to that 
directory. Its the last digit of dir permissions that is used. You can see that 
if you run samba with debug level.
 But the best way is to use the smb.config edits from above the you can share 
folders in /home and external ext4 drive like i do.

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Re: [Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-05-17 Thread koanhead
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM, julius von kohout 
592...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 Via nautilus is usershare. Via smb.conf is root share.

Cool, thanks!


 Try to set permissions of home to 755  and  make a share /home/public
 If you make a public share samba uses nobody/other as user to change to
 that directory. Its the last digit of dir permissions that is used. You can
 see that if you run samba with debug level.


OK, I will try that sometime this weekend and report back.



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   Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes
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 Status in “samba” package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:
   Binary package hint: samba

   SUMMARY:

   Following instructions to create a shared folder through Nautilus
   (right-click  Sharing Options  Share this folder, and following the
   subsequent prompts) does not always work.

   For some people, it works immediately. For other people, a solution
   has been found, which requires extra steps.

   I found this a problem across a small network of five computers:
   - one 64-bit Ubuntu (Lucid 10.04)
   - two 32-bit Ubuntu (Lucid 10.04)
   - one 32-bit Xubuntu (Lucid 10.04)
   - one Windows Vista.
   Every Ubuntu computer had the identical problem.

   Other people have reported having this problem. Examples:
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491092
   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502265

   SYMPTOMS:

   When it works, everything works properly and quickly. But when it does
   not work...

   The shares appear to be created correctly. Using terminal commands, it
   is found that the machines do in fact connect. However, in Nautilus,
   the network takes approximately a minute to respond and then fails to
   find the shares.

   DISCOVERED SOLUTION:

   1. Add the following two lines under the [global] section in file
 /etc/smb.conf in every Ubuntu and Xubuntu machine:
   os level = 33
   name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins

   2. Reboot.

   3. Some people find that they have to experiment with the order of
   items in name resolve order.

   EXTRA INFORMATION:

   Package versions according to Synaptic (from the default repositories):
   - samba 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3
   - nautilus-share 0.7.2-12build1
   - system-config-samba 1.2.63-0ubuntu4

   REQUIRED ACTION:

   Shared folders should work through the GUI without workarounds and
   fiddling, just as Windows and Mac do. It should not be necessary to
   get onto the forum, search, and mess with /etc/smb.conf. (It took over
   a week for me to discover the answer.)

   ProblemType: Bug
   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
   Package: samba 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3
   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-22.36-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2
   Uname: Linux 2.6.32-22-generic x86_64
   Architecture: amd64
   CheckboxSubmission: 5bf569339afeaacf6d8dcc180d0a06f0
   CheckboxSystem: b1865df84255b8716d3bcc269ff410d1
   Date: Fri Jun 11 11:33:18 2010
   EcryptfsInUse: Yes
   InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release amd64
 (20100429)
   ProcEnviron:
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
   RelatedPackageVersions:
nautilus 1:2.30.1-0ubuntu1
gvfs 1.6.1-0ubuntu1build1
   SambaClientRegression: Yes
   SourcePackage: samba

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-05-16 Thread julius von kohout
are you referring to root share or usershare? root shares work properly
and they are meant to be done by fiddling with smb.conf

user share via nautilus does not work properly

private shares with password (its automatically your login password)
work.

public (guest) shares in the home directory dont work because samba
cannot cd into /home because /home defaul permissons are to strict for
nobody which is the guest/public samba user.

i had a long talk with the maintainer of nautilus-share. there are
several possible fixes.

1. set homedirectoy permissons for  eveyone else properly
2. add force user = owner of the /home/'your username' directoy to smb.con and 
map to guest = bad password

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-04-05 Thread John Rose
Same problem. Even more interseting is that it's OK on one PC but not
another, both using 12.04 32 bit!

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-01-20 Thread sdowney717
Samba is crashing when i reboot, and crashing when I make changes using
the gui

scott@scott-P5QC:~$ sudo system-config-samba
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found.
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/samba not found.
scott@scott-P5QC:~$ 

also, nautilus shares dont show up in the gui, a disconnect, not
integrated which is bad.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-01-20 Thread sdowney717
That is on 12.04. I really dont have a clue of what to do anymore with
samba, and it used to work about a month ago.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2013-01-20 Thread Paddy Landau
@sdowney717 — your problem is unrelated to this bug. I suggest that you
ask your question on Ubuntu Forums [1] or Ask Ubuntu [2].

[1] http://ubuntuforums.org/
[2] http://askubuntu.com/

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2012-09-09 Thread koanhead
I have discovered that using the GUI to share a folder (via right-clicking in 
Nautilus) does not make any changes to smb.conf - I'm not sure where the 
information is stored, but I'm guessing it's somewhere in gconf (a quick check 
in gconf-editor didn't turn it up, but I'm not a gconf expert). 
Splitting up configuration data like this is Bad and Wrong, especially if the 
share doesn't work right at first and the user then goes and edits smb.conf 
manually. If your testparm output does not agree with the output of net 
usershare logon then that could be a sign of this split configuration issue.
IMO this is a bug in Nautilus (one I haven't filed yet, but that's my next 
stop). GNOME should not split configs. If config data *must* be kept in gconf 
then it should be sync'd with the existing config files.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2012-06-07 Thread Phil Headford
I agree with Paddy Landau that a respectable OS is expected these days
to be able to connect to shared folders (on at least the three main OSs)
with little or no user intervention. Once the computer and workgroup are
entered, and perhaps whether DHCP is being used, the configuration files
should be automatically tailored to suit the situation the system finds
itself in.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2011-10-17 Thread William S Gregory
Yes sir, still seeing it.  Seems to be an issue when you've got at
least two servers on the same subnet.  Tell it to use 'bcast' before the
system default (usually the isp's dns), in each smb.conf; and it works.

There are several potential issues at work here.

My first experience with SAMBA was with 11.04.  After spending several
hours on the Samba website learning about it and smb.  It's clear that
the changes necessary to make it just work in a gui browser
necessitate a non-stock configuration for SAMBA.  That is to say,
knowing SAMBA as it was designed isn't enough to understand the Ubuntu
implementation.  This confuses the issue if one is trying to
troubleshoot but has no access to documentation of what they did to make
it work in Ubuntu.

Another issue is the same old tired monster.  The reason why so many
Ubuntu veterans scream the battle-cry: Do A Clean Install!. Human
error.  Every version upgrade I've done has carried some problem or
other that is most likely due to either a maintainer error in a previous
revision, an error in the update itself, or lack of proper communication
between maintainers (that documentation I mentioned earlier).  So,
somewhere along the development pipeline no one remembers that a smb-
native server uses bcast to get what it needs: name-address
resolution.

Funny thing is, I went over 30 years of my life knowing next to nothing
about tcp/ip.  Then my first stab at SAMBA fails.  Less then half-way
through Tcp/Ip for Dummies, and I figured out the problem.  It only took
$30 and 80 pagesLOL

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2011-05-02 Thread Chris Routh
I am posting to comment that not only has this bug carried through to
10.10, it has now continued into the 11.04 base. I reinstalled Ubuntu
11.04 four times on one system and the issue occurred every time. As a
tech that promotes Ubuntu, I find it embarrassing that a fix has not yet
been implemented in over a year.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2011-05-02 Thread Paddy Landau
I think the Importance of this bug should be raised from Medium.

It is vital to have a system in today's world connect seamlessly and
effortlessly with other systems. I know it is outrageous that Microsoft
does not use agreed standards, but it's the way it is, so we have to
connect with Windows.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-10-05 Thread Blue_Bullet
This will significantly add to egg on face if it is allowed to carry
over into Ubuntu 10.10.  I have no idea what is happening with my file
sharing attempts.  It seems to change from one machine shut down to the
next.  If you look at the threads on this, the confusion is varied.  No
excuse for implementing basic services like this.

I do not see any attempts to fix the bugs either.  Seems a step back and
use one approach might be a good one to take.  Just pick one method and
go with it or make certain different methods if allowed do not interfere
with each other.  That's pretty basic software development.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-08-04 Thread Garthhh
Hi Tony,
I made a slight change to the 1st step, install 
system-config-samba

Warning, this method is not for unsecured networks

I found this method here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502265
Thanks to Wolfrage
1. Applications menu -Ubuntu Software Center - in the search box type 
Samba then install system-config-samba. ( this installs Samba  the Samba 
GUI.)
2. System menu - Administration - Samba. Enter your password. In the 
GUI that opens up choose Preferences menu - Server Settings then the 
Security tab change the authentication mode to share and the guest account to 
your user name account. This prevents permission problems later on.
3. Choose the Add a Samba Share; the green plus icon; browse to the directory 
you wish to share. Place a check mark in Writable and Visible. Then on the 
Access tab choose Allow access to everyone.
4. Press OK; now your should be able to see the share from the other computers 
just choose Places menu - Network then either the computer name if it 
shows up or select Windows Network - WORKGROUP - Computer Name then the 
Shared folder.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-08-04 Thread David M Pratt
nominated for Maverick by mistake.  :/  sorry guys I failed to see Does
this bug affect you?

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-08-03 Thread TonyR
I want to ask what kind of testing proceeds a release of Ubuntu as it
appears that 10.04 is totally bug ridden with serious problems.  Burning
disks does not work and now it appears sharing folders is also bug
ridden.

SAMBA seems to be permanently broken.  How can it be so hard to get this
working as it is a most important feature of the system.  It is so
disappointing to see Ubuntu undermined by such sloppy careless release
processes.

Getting a USB wireless network running was a soul destroying 26 hour
process over 4 days and many posts to forums and getting a TV card
recognized and working a similar nightmare.

As far as WINE actually running Windows applications, well I have yet to
see this work reliably in 5 years and several different distributions
and versions.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-08-03 Thread TonyR
Hi

I do not have /etc/smb.conf on this machine so have no option to use the
suggested work-a-round..

I will check the other machine

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-23 Thread Chuck Short
** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-23 Thread Garthhh
one of the missing steps is the installation of the GUI for samba...
shouldn't this show up as a dependency for the packages needed to share that 
get installed within the process of that 1st right click  some popped up 
instructions?

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-23 Thread WolfRage
I am posting just to mention that I have had problems with file sharing
since I came to Ubuntu. I hope that this will be fixed whether we use
Nautilus-Share or Samba; just so long as it works consistently and
easily. As Garthhh pointed out I made a short how to on the method that
worked for me using Samba.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502265 But that thread
continues to grow with more users reporting problems than the actual
number of affected users listed here in the bug report.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-21 Thread Dave M
I have had this problem since I started using SAMBA in v6.06, I am now
using v10.04 and configuring SAMBA is still a problem. Getting the
computers to discover each other, so they are listed in Places-Network
is a pain. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it works after a long delay and
sometimes they never find each other. I do not know much about Windows
networking but I think the problem may be related to not having a
Windows machine running wins. My network is all Ubuntu and  only has
Windows connected occasionally.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-21 Thread Garthhh
my notebook had powered down
when I restarted I had an icon for the documents on my pc [the share I set up 
above]?
but of course the other 2 computers are still awol

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-18 Thread Garthhh

I'll go through the whole thing from scratch, following instructions as I get 
them from the GUI  see where it gets me
I just walked into the other room  sat down at an ol Pentium III pc that is 
hooked to my printer.  I added Mint9 [last week] to this PC, because it's 
easier to use than 10.04 using the graphical interface.  I can generally stick 
to using software from the manager  synaptic.  I update usually within a few 
hours of when I notice there is a notifications.
I went to my home folder  right clicked documents, clicked share options
got asked for permission [root I guess], gave it
told I needed other packages  was asked if wanted to install the packages to 
do windows shares, clicked install
Samba  lib-something[dependency] installed
I filled in the share popup
the icon now shows an outstretched hand
went to my other computer I don't see any other computers on the network?
I go to network  click through the menus, don't see anything that appears to 
be relevant
I go to system[control center in mint] click Personal file sharing  get a 
message
this feature cannot be enabled Because the required packages are not installed 
on your system
I go to help, which says
I should go to startup preferences
I scroll through the list  see that personal file sharing is enabled
at this point I'm at an impass, so
I go have a look at synaptic  type personal file sharing into search, no 
results
change to file sharing, 65 results
I scroll through the list  see 9 of them are already installed
File
Gnome-user-share
Giver
Samba Common
Libwclient
Samba Common-bin
Samba Client
Samba
I'll stop here for the time being at least on the PC which has not had a bunch 
of stuff installed

at the very least the help file  or on screen prompts should lead you
to successfully sharing 1 folder, it should be a little more difficult
to share the entire home folder just for security sake

It's a shame to be so close  not go the rest of the way with graphical method 
of file sharing that doesn't require finding information through searching 
forums or the rest of the internet.
this basic task should be described adequately on help or through prompts/error 
messages within the process of right clicking a folder.

I understand that when you deal with the intricacies of an operating system on 
a day to day basis, it can be difficult to look at things with the eyes of a 
newbie
Let me know if there is any way I can help? :)

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-15 Thread Garthhh
There are also some other related threads:
Paddy Landau's thread
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491092
with a work around

Wolfrage's better solution:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502265

A bug [please subscribe]:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/592610

My thread from a couple of weeks ago:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491180

The community of developers has spent many hours developing this
capability, too bad it doesn't work, without a bunch of fiddling around
on the command line

If you are reading this  would like to be able to share files with a
couple of mouse clicks, post a comment on the threads  especially the
bug

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-15 Thread Paddy Landau
 How do I vote for this bug?

At the top, under the heading, there is a question in green: This bug
affects 2 people. Does this bug affect you? Click it and answer the
question.

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-15 Thread Mathias Gug
** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-14 Thread Chuck Short
** Package changed: samba (Ubuntu) = nautilus (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-14 Thread Chow Loong Jin
Looks more like a name resolution and presence detection issue more than
a configuration issue, so I'm reassigning to samba.

** Package changed: nautilus-share (Ubuntu) = samba (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 592610] Re: Shared folders (through Samba) when following instructions sometimes does not work correctly

2010-06-11 Thread Garthhh
When I try to do a simple share of documents folder  get an error:
'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name 
Everyone to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running.
if I do a search of synaptic there is a samba4
which is described as an experimental package

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