[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-04 Thread Thomas Hood
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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-04 Thread Thomas Hood
On the affected system when it is manifesting the problem you reported
(can't resolve names), is named running locally?  (In your original
submission you said that bind was running.)  What role does this named
play in your network?  How is it configured?  What happens if you stop
this named? And then restart network-manager?

All these questions pertain, obviously, to the hypothesis that local
named may be interfering with local dnsmasq.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-04 Thread Wolf Rogner
Thomas,

there is no local named on any notebook here.

dnsmasq does not interfere with named on any of my machines.

It should actually not even be possible. As far as I am concerned, the
bind() request should return false and give an EADDRINUSE if the socket
was already bound by something.

Unless dnsmasq uses a different technique to attach itself to port 53.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-04 Thread Thomas Hood
The hypothesis was that named started before dnsmasq, preventing dnsmasq
from binding port 53 on 127.0.0.1.  But the hypothesis is false, since
you are not running named after all.

Returning to your dig output, it can be summarized as follows.

dig s4 - FAILURE
dig @10.1.0.4 s4 - FAILURE
dig @10.1.0.4 s4.rsb.intern - SUCCESS
(Wolf did something here)
dig s4 - FAILURE
ping s4 - SUCCESS

Notice that domain name completion failed even when the external server
was specified.  As Simon wrote in #4, domain name completion happens in
the resolver library.  So there seems to be something wrong with the
resolver library: it doesn't complete domain names with the domain
search suffixes when dnsmasq is in use.  Am I right?

Does dig @127.0.0.1 s4.rsb.intern work on the affected system running
NM-controlled dnsmasq?

** Summary changed:

- dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken
+ domain name completion broken when dnsmasq is used

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-03 Thread Wolf Rogner
In fact my point of view is that I have submitted all information I could 
provide in reasonable time.
Give me a bunch of experiments I have to carry out, I'll spend an afternoon to 
help resolve the issue

From my point of view, I have given you more than enough input to
localise the issue (see other bugs as well).

Feel free to drop. The issue is still here.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Hood
 Please understand that I don't have the time

OK, marking this as invalid.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Hood
I'd just like to note here before leaving this issue that the submitter
originally said that he was running bind.  If bind was set up to listen
on 127.0.0.1#53 but was not correctly set up to provide name service
then I imagine that this could have interfered with the NM-controlled
dnsmasq. Exploring this possibility would have required cooperation by
the submitter, but, unfortunately, the submitter is no longer willing to
cooperate because he lacks time and has found a workaround that he is
satisfied with.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Hood
Wolf: You list problems with dnsmasq.  In this report (#998712) let's
continue to discuss the name resolution failure that you originally
reported.  One of the other problems you listed is being discussed in
#1003842.  For the remaining problems you listed, please submit your
information to bug reports (possibly newly opened by you) focusing on
those problems.

Let's talk about the situation where name resolution fails on your
system.  When you have the following...

/etc/resolv.conf:
nameserver 127.0.0.1
search rsb.intern rsb.at

/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf
server=192.168.0.1


... what is the output of ps -elf|grep dnsmasq?

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-06-01 Thread Wolf Rogner
My /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf contained

server=10.1.0.4
server=10.1.0.254
server=195.202.128.3

wolf@mbp:~$ ps -elf | grep dnsmasq
4 S nobody   25661 25624  0  80   0 -  7579 poll_s 15:20 ?00:00:00 
/usr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-resolv --keep-in-foreground --no-hosts --bind-interfaces 
--pid-file=/var/run/sendsigs.omit.d/network-manager.dnsmasq.pid 
--listen-address=127.0.0.1 --conf-file=/var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf 
--cache-size=0 --proxy-dnssec
0 S wolf 25774 25489  0  80   0 -  2720 pipe_w 15:21 pts/100:00:00 grep 
--color=auto dnsmasq
wolf@mbp:~$ 

Thomas, please understand that I don't have the time to reiterate on
situations that I have solved by reverting back to the original state. I
gave you enough hints to solve the issue. You can set up a situation
like mine in a bunch of virtual machines and simulate the effects.

I have a solution by disabling dnsmasq in network manager.

You might as well close this incident. But this will not fix the bug.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-31 Thread Thomas Hood
Wolf: Please post the FULL contents of your /etc/resolv.conf file as it
is when the reported problem occurs.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-31 Thread Thomas Hood
Wolf: In #3 you post some output but I don't know how to interpret it.
You start with a ping s4 which yields unknown host.  You end with
ping s4 which successfully pings.  What happened in the meantime to
change the results?  Did you edit something?

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-31 Thread Wolf Rogner
The /etc/resolv.conf held just a reference to 127.0.0.1

# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 127.0.0.1
search rsb.intern rsb.at

I copied a working version over it:

# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 10.1.0.4
nameserver 10.1.0.254
nameserver 195.202.128.3
search rsb.intern rsb.at

That way, name resolution worked immediately.
This brings back the old and stable name resolution. As far as I can observe 
this, no side effects as you discussed in #1003842


So far I have disabled dnsmasq in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf


Currently my view is that dnsmasq has some serious issues:

- name resolution in mixed DNS setups
- handling of refreshes of network manager (happens periodically with calls to 
resolvconf, aperiodically when new SSIDs emerge, network media changes or the 
machine is put into sleep mode)
- VPN management (which requires several different domains to be intersected)
- caching of resolved names
- handling of /etc/hosts

Hope this helps.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-17 Thread James Page
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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-17 Thread Wolf Rogner
I recreated the situation by restarting the network manager.

resolv.conf contains link to 127.0.0.1
/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf contained my name server already.

However, even dig does not resolv correctly. Here are the results (my
network is 10.x.x.x actually)

wolf@mbp:~$ ping s4
ping: unknown host s4
wolf@mbp:~$ dig s4

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  s4
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 27930
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;s4.IN  A

;; Query time: 3 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:07:39 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 20

wolf@mbp:~$ dig @10.1.0.4 s4

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  @10.1.0.4 s4
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 34081
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;s4.IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
.   10800   IN  SOA a.root-servers.net. 
nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2012051700 1800 900 604800 86400

;; Query time: 21 msec
;; SERVER: 10.1.0.4#53(10.1.0.4)
;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:07:50 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95

wolf@mbp:~$ dig @10.1.0.4 s4.rsb.intern

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  @10.1.0.4 s4.rsb.intern
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35717
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;s4.rsb.intern. IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
s4.rsb.intern.  34000   IN  A   10.1.0.4

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
rsb.intern. 34000   IN  NS  s4.rsb.intern.

;; Query time: 3 msec
;; SERVER: 10.1.0.4#53(10.1.0.4)
;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:08:03 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 61

wolf@mbp:~$ less /run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf 
wolf@mbp:~$ dig s4

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  s4
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 18553
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;s4.IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
.   10725   IN  SOA a.root-servers.net. 
nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2012051700 1800 900 604800 86400

;; Query time: 14 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:09:05 2012
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95

wolf@mbp:~$ ping s4
PING s4.rsb.intern (10.1.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
^X^C64 bytes from 10.1.0.4: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.792 ms

--- s4.rsb.intern ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.792/0.792/0.792/0.000 ms
wolf@mbp:~$ 

I have not quite figured out what exactly happens. It takes about 1 to
30 minutes to resolve the issue. On some machines it never settles
itself.

Certainly, if I manually adjust /etc/resolv.conf everthing works fine
immediately (name resolution, access to services). If I keep the files
the way they are, it is pure coincidence whether dns works (I had the
chance to use a wired LAN recently and it seems to be the same issue
there).

My guess would be that network manager and dns-mask do not work together
in all cases (in fact, they do cooperate only in just one case, after a
reboot). As I never reboot machines (if I don't have to), I put machines
to sleep, connect, disconnect, I practically never run into the optimal
situation.

Hope this helps.

Wolf

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Re: [Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-17 Thread Simon Kelley
On 17/05/12 10:19, Wolf Rogner wrote:
 I recreated the situation by restarting the network manager.
 
 resolv.conf contains link to 127.0.0.1
 /run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf contained my name server already.
 
 However, even dig does not resolv correctly. Here are the results (my
 network is 10.x.x.x actually)
 
 wolf@mbp:~$ ping s4
 ping: unknown host s4
 wolf@mbp:~$ dig s4
 
 ;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  s4
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 27930
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;s4.  IN  A
 
 ;; Query time: 3 msec
 ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
 ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:07:39 2012
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 20
 
 wolf@mbp:~$ dig @10.1.0.4 s4
 
 ;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  @10.1.0.4 s4
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 34081
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;s4.  IN  A
 
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 . 10800   IN  SOA a.root-servers.net. 
 nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2012051700 1800 900 604800 86400
 
 ;; Query time: 21 msec
 ;; SERVER: 10.1.0.4#53(10.1.0.4)
 ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:07:50 2012
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95
 
 wolf@mbp:~$ dig @10.1.0.4 s4.rsb.intern
 
 ;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  @10.1.0.4 s4.rsb.intern
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 35717
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;s4.rsb.intern.   IN  A
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 s4.rsb.intern.34000   IN  A   10.1.0.4
 
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 rsb.intern.   34000   IN  NS  s4.rsb.intern.
 
 ;; Query time: 3 msec
 ;; SERVER: 10.1.0.4#53(10.1.0.4)
 ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:08:03 2012
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 61
 
 wolf@mbp:~$ less /run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf 
 wolf@mbp:~$ dig s4
 
 ;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  s4
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 18553
 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;s4.  IN  A
 
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 . 10725   IN  SOA a.root-servers.net. 
 nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2012051700 1800 900 604800 86400
 
 ;; Query time: 14 msec
 ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
 ;; WHEN: Thu May 17 11:09:05 2012
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95
 
 wolf@mbp:~$ ping s4
 PING s4.rsb.intern (10.1.0.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
 ^X^C64 bytes from 10.1.0.4: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.792 ms
 
 --- s4.rsb.intern ping statistics ---
 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.792/0.792/0.792/0.000 ms
 wolf@mbp:~$ 
 

The difference between the working and non-working examples is that the
non-working ones are looking up

s4.

and the working ones are looking up

s4.rsb.intern.

getting from ssh s4 to a DNS lookup of the A record s4.rsb.intern, is
the responsibilty of the C library resolver, which is configured by
/etc/resolv.conf. There are a few parameters in there that can affect
things, look for domain, search and options ndots.

Are there differences in these parameters between the working and
non-working states?

Simon.

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[Bug 998712] Re: dnsmasq integration into name resolution broken

2012-05-13 Thread Wolf Rogner
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