On Mon, November 12, 2012 9:48 am, Len Ovens wrote:
Well, this has turned into a mess. It started with a simple question.
Should our text version of plymouth be versioned.
The general response seems to be it should be the same (way) as vanilla.
Vanilla has the graphic theme with no version and
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Ho Wan Chan wrote:
no no no I mean to abolish the text theme ONLY. The graphical one should
remain.
This means that we have no output multiplexor when booting on devices
that are in VGA fallback mode: as it turns
Hmm wait a minute, Ububtu Desktop's own Plymouth theme has version numbers
too. Then it means we have to resync every release. That is not better than
just changing the version number.
On 2012-11-12 下午9:09, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:51 PM, Emmet
On Mon, November 12, 2012 10:28 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
The long blank screen is because of plymouth not loading when the
initramfs loads. This was an intentional decision by Ubuntu to avoid
slowing down the boot process by including the necessary video modules, a
font , etc in the
On Mon, November 12, 2012 10:45 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
There are other ways to make plymouth start quickly than installing
cryptsetup, but that's the easiest way for an end user and least likely to
get reverted by some update.
The first question for studio is do we want to fix
I think that we should (if possible) let plymouth like in Vanilla Ubuntu.
And only changing lighdm.
Antoine THOMAS
Tél: 0663137906
2012/11/12 Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net
On Mon, November 12, 2012 10:45 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
There are other ways to make plymouth start
On Mon, November 12, 2012 12:45 pm, ttoine wrote:
I think that we should (if possible) let plymouth like in Vanilla Ubuntu.
And only changing lighdm.
Just to be clear, You are talking about how and when plymouth is started
rather than the artwork for plymouth?
2012/11/12 Len Ovens
Both. For me Ubuntu Studio should behave the same way than Vanilla with our
artwork. I don't see why we should do something different. And I guess that
most of end users don't care, if it works well.
If it can save time too for other more important stuff then it is good too.
Le 12 nov. 2012
One thing about installing cryptsetup by default as a means of starting
plymouth early: it does not require any changes from a vanilla install of
Ubuntu, as an early start to plymouth is then the normal behavior in Ubuntu.
Nothing to maintain but the theme, the rest is upstream Ubuntu,
On Mon, November 12, 2012 3:18 pm, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
One thing about installing cryptsetup by default as a means of starting
plymouth early: it does not require any changes from a vanilla install
of Ubuntu, as an early start to plymouth is then the normal behavior in
Ubuntu.
Len Ovens wrote:
On Mon, November 12, 2012 10:28 am, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
Interesting. I was not aware plymouth started so late on installs. I was
under the assumption it still started in initramfs.
In short, there are two cases where plymouth actually works right: live
As we are starting a new cycle, The text version of plymouth needs to be
updated. There was some discussion and it was noted that the graphics
version of plymouth has no version displayed. We are wondering if we
should just drop the versioning on the text version as well or not. The
text version
As we are starting a new cycle, The text version of plymouth needs to be
updated. There was some discussion and it was noted that the graphics
version of plymouth has no version displayed. We are wondering if we
should just drop the versioning on the text version as well or not. The
text
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:05:08 +0100, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:
As we are starting a new cycle, The text version of plymouth needs to be
updated. There was some discussion and it was noted that the graphics
version of plymouth has no version displayed. We are wondering if we
should just
Maybe then we should just completely abolish the themeBut is that
possible?
2012/11/11 Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:05:08 +0100, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:
As we are starting a new cycle, The text version of plymouth needs to be
updated. There was
On Sun, November 11, 2012 7:13 am, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
Maybe then we should just completely abolish the themeBut is that
possible?
2012/11/11 Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me
Since we hardly have time to see it (which is a shame cause it's very
nice
looking), I barely see the point in
On Sun, November 11, 2012 7:41 am, Len Ovens wrote:
The boot image maybe able to be made
persistent. That is it may be possible to get grub to leave some
background up
Just some thoughts on this... it would mean customizing grub and the
maintenance that goes with that. I don't know how
no no no I mean to abolish the text theme ONLY. The graphical one should
remain.
smartboyhw
On 2012-11-11 下午11:41, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net wrote:
On Sun, November 11, 2012 7:13 am, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
Maybe then we should just completely abolish the themeBut is that
possible?
I am for having the version number in loging screen, even if it is only in
a corner. Because when logged, users will note know clearly wich version
they are using.
Le 11 nov. 2012 16:44, Len Ovens l...@ovenwerks.net a écrit :
On Sun, November 11, 2012 7:41 am, Len Ovens wrote:
The boot image
Plymouth isn't that hard to customize, though it can take a day or so of work
to debug a new or radically modified theme from scratch. Since Jan 2011 I have
used the same image for the desktop, plymouth, and grub, so that the desktop
background comes up as soon as GRUB starts. My own work with
Version numbers on installer Plymouth help people know which version they are
using. This is especially handy for a live image on a flash drive, which unlike
a CD does not have space to write on and may be frequently rewritten. I think
they should be used.
On 11/11/2012 at 10:05 AM, Len Ovens
Ho Wan Chan wrote:
no no no I mean to abolish the text theme ONLY. The graphical one should
remain.
This means that we have no output multiplexor when booting on devices
that are in VGA fallback mode: as it turns out, in addition to some virtual
environments, this is also true for lots of
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