Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[Set Hallstrom]

On 2016-03-04 20:13, WMID wrote:
> I would like to be a member. If yes I want to be

That is great news WMID, have you taken all the steps necessary?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/JoinTheTeam

You need to understand this is not a free mailbox provided by
ubuntustudio.org. It is a simple email forwarding, administered by
canonical. It is therefor unwise to use it for any personal/private
purpose. It's use is mainly for team members who are involved in PR, and
the team infrastructure itself. It is (not limited but also) used as a
security for the team: if i get run over by a bus, canonical could
change the s...@ubuntustudio.org forward to go to zequence instead, so
that anything important communicated to me would not go unnoticed. In
otherword, it wouldn't make any sense to use it for anything non-related
to ubuntustudio.

Communicating to the world in the name of ubuntustudio.org might not be
a complicated task reserved to an "elite" or something exclusive, but it
does come with responsibilities. It becomes important to understand that
we might not be a *club* (http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=club
), but we are a *team* ( http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=team )
volunteering together for a pretty altruistic cause. Hence there is no
room for overlapping the ubuntustudio agenda with a personal one.

Think about it, take the necessary steps to join the team, and lets talk
about it again after that.

Meanwhile, you might want to take a closer look at this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership


Have a great Sunday!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[lukefromdc]

At the moment emails from Hushmail still reach the Big Corporate webmailers,
don't know how long that will last. Trouble I will have will be dealing with 
Gmail
users who'd really rather Tweet or Facebook anyway, I will have to tell them to 
check an open email or lose communication with me as I won't go to that side
of the net at all.

On 3/4/2016 at 11:59 PM, "Ralf Mardorf"  wrote:
>
>On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 17:55:15 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>>The whole Internet is in the process of dividing between a 
>strictly
>>controlled, monetized/verified corporate network and a non-
>monetized
>>free network, each of which may eventually be unable to talk to 
>the
>>other.
>
>At least for email we already reached this to a large extent.
>
>Some funny information about free as in beer email addresses:
>
>safe-mail.net forces the user to at least once a month log in and 
>use
>the web interface, instead of an external MUA.
>
>mail.com allows to sent not more than two or three mails an hour.
>
>As already pointed out, yahoo and rocketmail usually reject all 
>mailman
>mails, so you automatically get unsubscribed from the mailing 
>lists,
>google soon will follow yahoo. A few mailing lists still work with
>yahoo, but for those lists you don't receive your own mail sent to 
>the
>list and this actually is the preliminary stage before it 
>completely
>stops working.
>
>On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 17:34:29 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>>It was organized crime seeking ransom, which to their credit 
>Hushmail
>>utterly refused to pay, choosing to ride out the attack instead.
>
>Criminals who try to make their money with DDoS attack extortions 
>are
>on the rise. For sure the providers ride out the attacks and this
>sometimes takes weeks, but at least takes several days. This in 
>addition
>with the "random" blackhole listing, that is not only done by evil
>companies, but also provided by some "libre" mailing lists, very 
>much
>by linux audio org lists (LAU and LAD) and once we need an 
>individual
>address for each recipient + rotation of used email addresses.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 17:55:15 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>The whole Internet is in the process of dividing between a strictly
>controlled, monetized/verified corporate network and a non-monetized
>free network, each of which may eventually be unable to talk to the
>other.

At least for email we already reached this to a large extent.

Some funny information about free as in beer email addresses:

safe-mail.net forces the user to at least once a month log in and use
the web interface, instead of an external MUA.

mail.com allows to sent not more than two or three mails an hour.

As already pointed out, yahoo and rocketmail usually reject all mailman
mails, so you automatically get unsubscribed from the mailing lists,
google soon will follow yahoo. A few mailing lists still work with
yahoo, but for those lists you don't receive your own mail sent to the
list and this actually is the preliminary stage before it completely
stops working.

On Fri, 04 Mar 2016 17:34:29 -0500, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>It was organized crime seeking ransom, which to their credit Hushmail
>utterly refused to pay, choosing to ride out the attack instead.

Criminals who try to make their money with DDoS attack extortions are
on the rise. For sure the providers ride out the attacks and this
sometimes takes weeks, but at least takes several days. This in addition
with the "random" blackhole listing, that is not only done by evil
companies, but also provided by some "libre" mailing lists, very much
by linux audio org lists (LAU and LAD) and once we need an individual
address for each recipient + rotation of used email addresses.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[lukefromdc]

The whole Internet is in the process of dividing between a strictly controlled,
monetized/verified corporate network and a non-monetized free network, each
of which may eventually be unable to talk to the other. Now is the time to 
decide which side of that divide you want to be on. It has already begun.

On the free side, activist email server Riseup's users had years of trouble 
with the
corporate email servers rejecting their emails because the Spamhaus project 
became politicized and repeatedly listed them falsely as spam. This will spread,
I expect that ad-supported email will talk only to itself at some point in the 
future,
so there will effectively be two totally separate email systems. I will be 
blind to the
corporate side of this as I am to what happens on Facebook.

Yahoo has been caught blocking email access to people who block ads. Expect 
that to become the industry standard and to have to close all accounts with all 
ad-supported services  within the next few years. There are hacks to defeat that
bur such an account is endangered and should be emptied and closed ideally
within a single login session, as I did when Hotmail demanded phone verification
years ago and I had to break into my own account by using a cut and pasted URL

I have not yet had trouble with Hushmail and mailing lists, though setting up 
new
free Hushmail accounts now requires using one of the web services that 
emulates a phone taking SMS messages to defeat SMS verification. My 
acount will be abandoned without notice if they demand this on existing 
accounts and find a way around the web service workaround, as I refuse to 
permit any online activity involving me to be "verified."  At that point I will
probably have to set up a personal email server. My aggressive adblocking,
tracker blocking, and rejection of verification are not welcome among corporate
providers.

On 3/4/2016 at 3:05 PM, "Ralf Mardorf"  wrote:
>
>On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 14:13:32 -0500, WMID wrote:
>>I would like to be a member.
>
>I don't want to join any club, but I want to have an email address 
>that
>works with most mailing lists :D.
>
>I don't have the link at hand, but yahoo (and rocketmail, which 
>actually
>is yahoo) already are a PITA, completely unusable or at best usable
>with hard restrictions. All much used free addresses, G-spot or 
>what
>ever they are named and so on, will follow a new policy soon, that
>unfortunately completely screws up mailman. If I have more time 
>I'll
>sent you the Arch Linux mailing list threads regarding this issue.
>
>Many other providers, that don't follow that new policy, OTOH are 
>much
>too often blackhole listed, such as Alice and all the US-American
>companies around AOL.
>
>Currently I have got best experiences with zoho.com, but I suspect 
>it's
>just a matter of time when this provider becomes unusable too.
>
>It's not that easy to find a provider that can be used with mailing
>lists nowadays.
>
>Any hints are welcome.
>
>Regards,
>Ralf
>
>PS:
>
>Let alone that my MUA's filters don't work properly anymore, since 
>I've
>got to change email addresses all the times. I fear that mailing 
>lists
>will die soon.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[lukefromdc]

Hushmail had that problem, had to resort to Cloudflare's DDOS protection 
service,
which forced me to use Torbrowser to log in to block Cloudflare from 
fingerprinting
my browser until it was resolved. It was organized crime seeking ransom, which 
to 
their credit Hushmail utterly refused to pay, choosing to ride out the attack 
instead.

On 3/4/2016 at 3:13 PM, "Ralf Mardorf"  wrote:
>
>I forgot to mention that many free email providers also suffer 
>much too
>often from DDoS attacks and need to stop the services for days. 
>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[Ralf Mardorf]

I forgot to mention that many free email providers also suffer much too
often from DDoS attacks and need to stop the services for days. 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[Ralf Mardorf]

PS: Log in to the mailman lists you're subscribed to and take a look at
the bounce score.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 4 Mar 2016 14:13:32 -0500, WMID wrote:
>I would like to be a member.

I don't want to join any club, but I want to have an email address that
works with most mailing lists :D.

I don't have the link at hand, but yahoo (and rocketmail, which actually
is yahoo) already are a PITA, completely unusable or at best usable
with hard restrictions. All much used free addresses, G-spot or what
ever they are named and so on, will follow a new policy soon, that
unfortunately completely screws up mailman. If I have more time I'll
sent you the Arch Linux mailing list threads regarding this issue.

Many other providers, that don't follow that new policy, OTOH are much
too often blackhole listed, such as Alice and all the US-American
companies around AOL.

Currently I have got best experiences with zoho.com, but I suspect it's
just a matter of time when this provider becomes unusable too.

It's not that easy to find a provider that can be used with mailing
lists nowadays.

Any hints are welcome.

Regards,
Ralf

PS:

Let alone that my MUA's filters don't work properly anymore, since I've
got to change email addresses all the times. I fear that mailing lists
will die soon.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[WMID]

I would like to be a member. If yes I want to be wac...@ubuntustudio.org


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2016-03-04 8:14 GMT-05:00 Kaj Ailomaa :

> I would like to set up some new email addresses for new team members.
>
> sacrecoer
> retail-0 (Ross)
> cfhowlett
>
> Am I missing someone?
>
> I will also send emails directly to all parties asking which username
> they would like, and where the @ubuntustudio.org email should point to
> (it's a redirect), and then create a ticket at rt.ubuntu.com to ask
> Canonical admins to set this up.
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[ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntustudio.org email addresses for team members

[Kaj Ailomaa]

I would like to set up some new email addresses for new team members.

sacrecoer
retail-0 (Ross)
cfhowlett

Am I missing someone?

I will also send emails directly to all parties asking which username
they would like, and where the @ubuntustudio.org email should point to
(it's a redirect), and then create a ticket at rt.ubuntu.com to ask
Canonical admins to set this up.

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