Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Colin McCarthy
2009/3/4 John jake...@sky.com I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I was just wondering, are there any websites or books that are Ubuntu specific, that are easy to read and understand Before spending any money on dead tree books take a look at http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com it's a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/3/4 John jake...@sky.com: I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I was just wondering, are there any websites or books that are Ubuntu specific, that are easy to read and understand. I want to try using my Terminal more, and I think I'm now ready to start learning. Read man pages.

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu print magazine with CD?

2009-03-05 Thread Andrew Oakley
I recall seeing an Ubuntu Linux printed magazine with Hardy LTS desktop install CD available in WH Smiths for a tenner, a few months ago. It's not in Smiths now, at least not the large Cheltenham branch. Does anyone know where I might be able to get copies of this? Or who the publisher was?

[ubuntu-uk] PDA running linux?

2009-03-05 Thread doug livesey
Hi -- does anyone have any experience with PDAs running linux? I need to write an on-site data-gathering app, and such a machine would be perfect. I'd also need a clue about the best way to rapid-dev for a linux PDA. I've got about 2 weeks, typically! Doug. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] PDA running linux?

2009-03-05 Thread Kris Douglas
Hi -- does anyone have any experience with PDAs running linux? I need to write an on-site data-gathering app, and such a machine would be perfect. I'd also need a clue about the best way to rapid-dev for a linux PDA. I've got about 2 weeks, typically!    Doug. There are lots of installers

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu print magazine with CD?

2009-03-05 Thread Andrew Oakley
Mark Fraser wrote: I was going to say that Computer Active published 'The Computer Active Ultimate Guide To Linux' in December, but that had Ubuntu 8.10 on it. It was £5.99. Ooh, that might do. Thanks. http://www.computeractive-direct.co.uk/index.cfm?p=16itemid=2946 Basically I want to give

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu print magazine with CD?

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Andrew Oakley andrew.oak...@hesa.ac.uk wrote: I recall seeing an Ubuntu Linux printed magazine with Hardy LTS desktop install CD available in WH Smiths for a tenner, a few months ago. It's not in Smiths now, at least not the large Cheltenham branch. Does

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
My advice, Rowan... - back everything up that you need (probably only /home/rowan or whatever) - re-install from a fresh Ubuntu CD. Trying to work out what's going on with this one just seems to be taking up time of yours that you really do not have... the truth is that Ubuntu is VERY good these

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Rowan
thanks guys -- I have all the time in the world, it's just that I am a bit luckless (and clueless). This DVD is the one that LinuxCertified made specifically as an 'image' of their own particular configuration with all its applications, but they also supplied a CD with just the ubuntu minus

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Rob Beard
On 05/03/2009 12:39, Rowan wrote: thanks guys -- I have all the time in the world, it's just that I am a bit luckless (and clueless). This DVD is the one that LinuxCertified made specifically as an 'image' of their own particular configuration with all its applications, but they also supplied

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
I really think you're wasting your time, Rowan, dealing with them. I am convinced that if you let Ubuntu simply install itself you'll have all your issues fixed. It is one of the things we've been taught to do, phone or e-mail the supplier in the first instance, but when it comes to Linux I have

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/5 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk: Read man pages. The first UNIX like system I used was a VAX-VMS system. Er, VAX-VMS was not remotely UNIX-like and did not have a man command, nor ls, cd or any of those. The directory-listing command was not ls, it was DIR or indeed any

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Rowan
Oh, absolutely, the applications are all in the repositories, they have said so several times. But you can imagine how much angst I would generate trying to do it that way. I suspect that the trick is to catch one of the boot options when first powering up, before it goes into Ubuntu, perhaps

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu print magazine with CD?

2009-03-05 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/5 Andrew Oakley andrew.oak...@hesa.ac.uk: I recall seeing an Ubuntu Linux printed magazine with Hardy LTS desktop install CD available in WH Smiths for a tenner, a few months ago. It's not in Smiths now, at least not the large Cheltenham branch. Does anyone know where I might be able

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Rowan
yeah, well, California ... they're probably all stoned ... Sean Miller wrote: I really think you're wasting your time, Rowan, dealing with them. I am convinced that if you let Ubuntu simply install itself you'll have all your issues fixed. It is one of the things we've been taught to do,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/5 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk: Read man pages. The first UNIX like system I used was a VAX-VMS system. Er, VAX-VMS was not remotely UNIX-like and did not have a man command, nor ls, cd or any of those. Quite

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Rowan rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: yeah, well, California ... they're probably all stoned ... Can we join in do you think? Could just do with getting stoned, but in cloudy Shepton Mallet there are no hippies to commune with... *deep breath* ;-) Sean

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Ian Betteridge
I approve of this wild topic drift :) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: Quite right, none of this Unix nonsense... we used to have VML and God knows what else... oh, I guess we'd

[ubuntu-uk] Fw: EU rules for member States and more!

2009-03-05 Thread mike daniels
I was educated before we bacame part of the EU. The EU allows all member States to use their own system of measurement and currency! Interesting that a contributor wants computer weights stated in kilos! Some years ago, trading standards prosecuted traders for selling goods in pounds

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Alan Pope
On 05/03/2009, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: I really think you're wasting your time, Rowan, dealing with them. Harsh. I am convinced that if you let Ubuntu simply install itself you'll have all your issues fixed. I'd be willing to bet that's not the case. Look at it from LC

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fw: EU rules for member States and more!

2009-03-05 Thread Angelos Chatzikostas
There is no VAT in intra EU transaction. But the importer has to pay the VAT in customs. That is ofcourse applied to companies and not individuals... I think UK has to see more friendly the EU ... Thanks 2009/3/5 mike daniels mikezz1...@yahoo.com I was educated before we bacame part of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Rowan
I think we have provided immense amounts of information detailing exactly the commands that Rowan needs to recompile and reinstall his driver. Either he knuckles down and tries it ... I already did just that, I believe: type the following as root or using sudo to rebuild the r8168 driver: cd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fw: EU rules for member States and more!

2009-03-05 Thread mike daniels
I am not qualifed to comment on EU VAT on intercompany busines, My point was, if an individual purchases goods from an EU State, the VAT rate of that State is applied, so for example, a purchase from Polaland is at the 22.5% rate. --- On Thu, 5/3/09, Angelos Chatzikostas angelos...@gmail.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: You're not Rowan though. You have orders of magnitude more skill and experience in use of Linux than he appears to. If he goes for a vanilla install of Ubuntu it's entirely likely that he'll end up with some level of brokenness

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Tony Arnold
Ian, Ian Betteridge wrote: I approve of this wild topic drift :) Yes, me too! I was a grewat lover of OpenVMS (to give it its proper name) and all things VAX and Alpha. I still have an Alpha workstation running OpenVMS running under my desk! On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Sean Miller

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Alan Pope
On 05/03/2009, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: Trying to fix something that is broken is FAR harder than simply re-installing, and it sounds like he's sufficiently early on in his Linux journey to do that without losing too much. Sounds like the windows way of fixing things. Just

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fw: EU rules for member States and more!

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Jones
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:10 PM, mike daniels mikezz1...@yahoo.com wrote: I am not qualifed to comment on EU VAT on intercompany busines, My point was, if an individual purchases goods from an EU State, the VAT rate of that State is applied, so for example, a purchase from Polaland is at the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fw: EU rules for member States and more! Closing Thread Please

2009-03-05 Thread mike daniels
Thanks Matt, mybe I was being too specific, yes, ROI items were charged at the 15% rate. Time to close this thread, back to the technical ones. Regards, Michael --- On Thu, 5/3/09, Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk wrote: From: Matt Jones m...@mattjones.me.uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fw: EU rules

[ubuntu-uk] Touch Book

2009-03-05 Thread Bruce Beardall
For those of you who haven't already seen this, the new toy from the guy who brought us the Zonbu. http://www.osnews.com/story/21075/Want_Touch_Book If it's as good as they make out it could prove interesting since the hardware design is supposed to be open, should make a very easy install for

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Rowan
That was our interim conclusion, Simon, but it now appears that the problem is more complex. What happened was this: the suppliers sent the machine out to me with automatic updates switched on, and being a first-time user I allowed it to download and attempt to install a whole series of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu print magazine with CD?

2009-03-05 Thread Andrew Oakley
Mark Fraser wrote: On Thursday 05 March 2009 10:24:12 Sean Miller wrote: Almost certainly Future Publishing... they do these things, I was going to say that Computer Active published 'The Computer Active Ultimate Guide To Linux' in December, Ah! Found it. It was The Linux Starter Pack and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

2009-03-05 Thread Tony Travis
Rowan wrote: Oh, absolutely, the applications are all in the repositories, they have said so several times. But you can imagine how much angst I would generate trying to do it that way. I suspect that the trick is to catch one of the boot options when first powering up, before it goes into

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Tony Travis
Liam Proven wrote: [...] VAXen ran Unix - indeed, Unix was developed on VAXen. But the native VAX OS, although much much later rated POSIX-compatible, was VMS which is nothing like Unix in any way. Hello, Liam. Wrong! - Unix was developed on pdp11's: I used it on a pdp11/23 + 11/34.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Flynn
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: I remember driving my friend Hugo Fiennes in, perhaps, the late 80s to pick up a PDP 11 running Unix.  I remember him joking about she sells c-shells etc. I've jsut spent 10 minutes trying to work out why I knew that name.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
This page of Hugo's is fascinating... http://utter.chaos.org.uk/~altman/mp3mobile/ We have REALLY gone off topic now. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Sean Miller
Flippin' hell... he developed the iPhone??? http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/news/article1/ Arrghhh where did I go wrong? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

[ubuntu-uk] Beware - tempers flare

2009-03-05 Thread alan c
'Tempers Flare as Recession Creeps into Tech Industry' http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2009/03/tempers-flare-as-recession-creeps-into.html Extract: It's _ hippy freaks like you that are costing us our jobs. You got any idea how many people are getting pink slips because of your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu print magazine with CD?

2009-03-05 Thread alan c
Andrew Oakley wrote: Mark Fraser wrote: I was going to say that Computer Active published 'The Computer Active Ultimate Guide To Linux' in December, but that had Ubuntu 8.10 on it. It was £5.99. Ooh, that might do. Thanks. http://www.computeractive-direct.co.uk/index.cfm?p=16itemid=2946

[ubuntu-uk] booting the ubuntu restore DVD

2009-03-05 Thread Rowan
It turned out to be, press F12 at the POST screen, as it states in the bottom, then select the optical drive when the boot device menu appears. It seems to have worked. To prevent all this from happening again, I need to go to System - Administration - Software Sources, and uncheck the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread John
Sean Miller wrote: Flippin' hell... he developed the iPhone??? http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/news/article1/ Arrghhh where did I go wrong? Sean Hi everybody, I have quite enjoyed learning about this, even though it did go off topic, it was quite interesting. Thanks for the link, I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/3/5 Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com: 2009/3/5 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk: Read man pages. The first UNIX like system I used was a VAX-VMS system. Er, VAX-VMS was not remotely UNIX-like and did not have a man command, nor ls, cd or any of those. Ok. I can't remember what the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Alan James Jenkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guys you really make me wish that I was old enough to have done all of this. The only way I can get close is by playing with the oldest servers I could find in my college when I ran it for them for a while (VMS based). One thing I still find funny

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....

2009-03-05 Thread Liam Proven
2009/3/5 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk: No. I guess my memory could be wrong, but I am certain I was using a VAX VMS system running some form of X windowing system and it had the xman program. I can picture myself at the machine I used, and in that part of the office all the machines were