Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Avi Greenbury
Grant Sewell wrote: I would dispute this. Not the part that says that people won't turn to Linux - I agree (at the moment) with that wholesale. I disagree that people will turn to Mac. I thought it was generally accepted that Apple won big-time on the 'personal' desktop/laptop front from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Alan Bell
On 13/06/11 08:44, Avi Greenbury wrote: it is called Ubuntu 11.04, it is *not* officially called Ubuntu Natty Narwhal. Mac was codenamed Snow Leopard until it was officially released, where-upon it became OSX 10.6. Really? yes, really. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames I thought

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Tony Scott
Codenames are not designed to survive post release: Since the actual release date is not known until it's ready and humans tend to prefer names rather than numbers, a set of codenames are used by developers and testers during the buildup to a release: from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Avi Greenbury
Alan Bell wrote: On 13/06/11 08:44, Avi Greenbury wrote: it is called Ubuntu 11.04, it is *not* officially called Ubuntu Natty Narwhal. Mac was codenamed Snow Leopard until it was officially released, where-upon it became OSX 10.6. Really? yes, really.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Avi Greenbury
Tony Scott wrote: Since the actual release date is not known until it's ready and humans tend to prefer names rather than numbers, a set of codenames are used by developers and testers during the buildup to a release: I particularly like here the implication that the courtesy of bending to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:15:57 +0100 Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Guys snip Anything that helps to give Ubuntu the image of being mainstream can only be of help. Quirky release names suggest that Ubuntu is perhaps intended only for people in the know. Which of the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Alan Bell
On 13/06/11 11:18, Avi Greenbury wrote: Tony Scott wrote: Since the actual release date is not known until it's ready and humans tend to prefer names rather than numbers, a set of codenames are used by developers and testers during the buildup to a release: I particularly like here the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Sean Miller
I think the year.month release numbers are very useful... if somebody says to me I have OS-Something Version 1.5 I have absolutely NO idea whatsoever whether that release is bleeding edge or deprecated. If I read Ubuntu 11.04 I know that is up-to-date: on the other hand, if I have somebody saying

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 June 2011 11:48, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote: I think the year.month release numbers are very useful... if somebody says to me I have OS-Something Version 1.5 I have absolutely NO idea whatsoever whether that release is bleeding edge or deprecated.  If I read Ubuntu 11.04 I

[ubuntu-uk] (off list) Re: Example of difficulty to Convert MS users

2011-06-13 Thread alan c
Hi Alan Apologies for my strange question in the list here. I totally mis-read your text (!) alan cocks On 11/06/11 20:15, alan c wrote: On 11/06/11 17:48, Alan Bell wrote: On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: I dunno if we should do another list for people interested in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Carlos Ferreira
While I agree that some of the discussion on the denomination of software is only a distraction, I hope we are not collectively throwing the baby out with the bath water. As far as I can perceive, Ubuntu and other distros are in a weird position, trying to increase their mass appeal (have a look

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Tansom
** Carlos Ferreira carlosemferre...@gmail.com [2011-06-13 14:42]: snip So, perhaps it is interesting to discuss whether or not names and other idiosyncrasies of free software are important. After all, when I recently suggested that my students (first year undergraduates) use a certain Firefox

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Avi
Carlos Ferreira wrote: the former require (supposedly) more user-friendliness and more eye-candy (not to mention OEM contracts), while the latter are into command-line love and the feel good factor associated with fiddling your way through numerous work-arounds. No, they both require

[ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Philip Newborough
Hello Peeps I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA card, but I am somewhat lost as to which one. I am not too bothered about it being the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Alan Pope
On 13 June 2011 17:27, Philip Newborough corenomi...@corenominal.org wrote: I am not a gamer, but I would like it to perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some screencasts. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/232853 Is the one I recently bought. I previously ran Ubuntu Natty

[ubuntu-uk] Reminder: Meeting Tomorrow 7PM UTC

2011-06-13 Thread Lewis Cawte
Hi all, Just a reminder, the first Ubuntu Gaming Team meeting in well over a year is taking place tomorrow at 7PM UTC in #ubuntu-gaming Agenda is here, feel free to add your ideas! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GamingTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2011-06-14 (CCed Ubuntu UK loco to drive up some interest, as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Rob Beard
On 13/06/11 17:27, Philip Newborough wrote: Hello Peeps I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA card, but I am somewhat lost as to which

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Rob Beard
On 13/06/11 17:44, Alan Pope wrote: On 13 June 2011 17:27, Philip Newboroughcorenomi...@corenominal.org wrote: I am not a gamer, but I would like it to perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some screencasts. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/232853 Is the one I recently

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Timothy Rittman
On 13/06/11 18:11, Rob Beard wrote: On 13/06/11 17:27, Philip Newborough wrote: Hello Peeps I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at purchasing an NVIDIA

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 13 June 2011 17:27, Philip Newborough corenomi...@corenominal.org wrote: I am not a gamer, but I would like it to perform well at HD media playback and possibly recording some screencasts.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Mark Fraser
On Monday 13 Jun 2011 18:11:58 Rob Beard wrote: On 13/06/11 17:27, Philip Newborough wrote: Hello Peeps I have a Dell Studio 540 system with integrated Intel i915(?) graphics controller. The system works well, but I am wondering if it would benefit from an upgrade? I am looking at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Grant Sewell
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 08:44:32 +0100 Avi Greenbury wrote: Grant Sewell wrote: I would dispute this. Not the part that says that people won't turn to Linux - I agree (at the moment) with that wholesale. I disagree that people will turn to Mac. I thought it was generally accepted that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which NVIDIA GPU for Natty?

2011-06-13 Thread Philip Newborough
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. After looking into some of the suggested cards, it looks like I might be limited by my system's PSU, which is only 350W -- this is lower than recommended for Alan's initial suggestion. :( I could upgrade the PSU, but I would rather not. So, I am now looking

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Avi
Grant Sewell wrote: I realise that a large number of (quite vocal) people did move over to Apple with the release of Windows Vista, but was it enough to have a significant impact on the market? If so, I certainly didn't notice it. Hm, perhaps I'm just in the middle of a few unique

[ubuntu-uk] Further Decluttering

2011-06-13 Thread TT Mooney
Hi all -- I am getting rid of some surplus equipment from home, and rather than fuss with Ebay, I thought perhaps someone on the list would be interested. Current techie toys littering the flat include: O2 Joggler (works, briefly used, still in box, replaced with Nook Color Tablet for kitchen

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's In A Name?

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Sutton
On 13/06/11 19:24, Avi wrote: Grant Sewell wrote: I realise that a large number of (quite vocal) people did move over to Apple with the release of Windows Vista, but was it enough to have a significant impact on the market? If so, I certainly didn't notice it. Hm, perhaps I'm just in the

[ubuntu-uk] On giving people Ubuntu to try.

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Houston
I have a couple of old Thinkpad T43s that a friend gave to me thinking that he had killed them with a faulty USB device. A bit of googling and a 'deep reset' restored them both to life much to my friends consternation. I offered them him back but was given permission to keep them :)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] On giving people Ubuntu to try.

2011-06-13 Thread Dave Hanson
Martin, I like you enthusiasm. I am planning to distribute a usb based Ubuntu distro to Leeds Met University with an Oracle XE installation on as the admin there don't trust the students to have full admin rights themselves. I shall mention your speed thoughts and report back, it is obviously

Re: [ubuntu-uk] On giving people Ubuntu to try.

2011-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
hiyas, Crikey... a 250MB usb hard drive? Please let me have some more details as the lowest we can get Lubuntu down to as a full install is 2.7GB on Hard Disk - I am sure JM would love to have a look at it. Regards, Phill. On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Martin Houston

[ubuntu-uk] from win32 to python?

2011-06-13 Thread andres
Hello, This is a question mainly for developers. I think. It's really a curiosity of mine and I have little say in the result of the project. Someone I know is thinking of releasing his software. It's a program that at it's core is written in Fortran but has the gui written in win32. it has