Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
On 5 May 2012, at 10:50, Bea Groves wrote: > I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until > all the controversy dies down a little) Erk. That's a shame. Unity is not going away and 10.10 is no longer supported. I'd seriously reconsider this move. 12.04 make mo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-05 Thread Colin Law
On 5 May 2012 16:46, Alan Pope wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/05/12 01:46, scoundrel50a wrote: >> Ok, did that, and as soon as the laptop started a crash report box >> appeared, blueman applet, so I went through the process again, and >> nothing happened, how do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 20:21, Bea Groves wrote: Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) Er - yes I can see that you may have a bit of leverage there :-) So I can expect to see a write up in the next IfL news? M

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Bea Groves wrote: > Hi! > > I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting > educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) > > I'm not against Unity. I just think I need to get my little bunch of > 'pioneers' used to something cl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! I'm actually the President of IfL -- so it sometimes helps in getting educational bodies to do things they normally wouldn't ;-) I'm not against Unity. I just think I need to get my little bunch of 'pioneers' used to something closer to what they're used to Windows-wise than go with the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Well said sir > > Remember that as far as most managers are concerned in the state education > sector, GNU/Linux IS the new BBC Micro/ Archimedes. Windows is normal to > them. > > -- > Cheers > > Oh there's nothing wrong with the BBC or Archimedes, just that they were old hat by the time I was in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:53, Gareth France wrote: Oh please, don't misunderstand me. I applaud the achievement and I am sure it will inspire new users to make the switch and share the goodness. Well said sir Remember that as far as most managers are concerned in the state education sector

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM, kpb wrote: > On 05/05/12 19:32, Gareth France wrote: > >> >> So because we find something difficult we should shy away from learning >> it, even though that's the way things are going to be from now on? Teaching >> people to use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is rather akin t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:32, Gareth France wrote: So because we find something difficult we should shy away from learning it, even though that's the way things are going to be from now on? Teaching people to use Ubuntu with Gnome 2 is rather akin to telling people you'll teach them to use a PC by using

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > The *buntu world is not solely Unity - have a look around. > > Regards, > > Phill. > True, I suppose someone using Gnome 2 could easily transfer the skills to Xubuntu or probably even Kubuntu with minimal culture shock. I've never really

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Phill Whiteside
The *buntu world is not solely Unity - have a look around. Regards, Phill. On 6 May 2012 00:02, Gareth France wrote: > Gareth: > >> >> My teenagers and 19-24 students can sort Unity in a minute or two when I >> lend them my little 1024/600px netbook in lessons. The adults struggle a >> bit to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
Gareth: > > My teenagers and 19-24 students can sort Unity in a minute or two when I > lend them my little 1024/600px netbook in lessons. The adults struggle a > bit to be honest. Would need an overview/explanation, but a 10 week course > would be great. > > So because we find something difficult

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 19:00, Gareth France wrote: I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a little) onto the 4GB sticks using the Windows 'Universal USB installer'. Works like a dream! Students plug in the stick, switch on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
> I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment > until all the controversy dies down a little) onto the 4GB sticks using the > Windows 'Universal USB installer'. Works like a dream! Students plug in the > stick, switch on the PC... and hey presto! Later when we upgrade to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi Alan! I'm really pleased that you like the the new course concept. I'm going to try to keep on plugging away for it to become a regular feature on North Tyneside's curriculum. I actually installed 10.10 (staying clear of Unity just for the moment until all the controversy dies down a litt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bea, This is excellent! On 05/05/12 10:14, Bea Groves wrote: > We're also having to run the course in rather 'experimental' > circumstances. The powers-that-be wouldn't let me install Ubuntu > to their PC HDDs, so we're having to run Ubuntu from

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu beginners course in North Tyneside

2012-05-05 Thread Bea Groves
Hi! Just a quick bit of news... I teach in adult education in North Tyneside, and last year I managed to talk my manager round to the idea of putting on a beginners course in Ubuntu within the borough. It means spending scarce funding on what is a fairly 'off the beam' topic, when the usual p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-05 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/12 01:46, scoundrel50a wrote: > Ok, did that, and as soon as the laptop started a crash report box > appeared, blueman applet, so I went through the process again, and > nothing happened, how do you know if the crash report gets to you, > ho

[ubuntu-uk] Nvidia-settigns application and Over-scan problems

2012-05-05 Thread Bill Cumming
Hi Hope someone here can help me. I'm using 2 monitors currently on my main system It's an Nvidia ION based motherboard. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 The problem is that the Nvidia-Settings app is not saving the settings for the second monitor. I've used the following Nvidia Drivers (all have the s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-05 Thread alan c
On 04/05/12 17:32, Gareth France wrote: that new people don't already know the routine I have often forgotten how to do this (several times) and several times have used web, wiki or various searches, and I have been frustrated that this most convenient way is not generally the one which is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-05 Thread Piskie
On 05/05/12 14:41, alan c wrote: On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: ubuntu-bug unity (replacing "unity" with whatever package has the issue) Then follow the prompts on the screen. I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to register a bug, and works pretty well. I can

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best way to contribute to Ubuntu? - was Re: 12.04 has locked me out of my account

2012-05-05 Thread alan c
On 04/05/12 17:05, Alan Pope wrote: ubuntu-bug unity (replacing "unity" with whatever package has the issue) Then follow the prompts on the screen. I can confirm that this is a very convenient and practical way to register a bug, and works pretty well. I cannot recall using it for very long

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updates interupt film

2012-05-05 Thread Andres Muniz
- Mensaje original - > On 03/05/12 16:47, Andres Muniz wrote: > > My wife claims this happened to her: she was watching a web video > > on full screen mode and the ubuntu updater took her out of full > > screen mode and set it's self on top of the web page. > > Sounds plausible. I would

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Re: Wine on Precise

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
I'm there now, nobody seems to talk and the only person who has tells me 'it's a ubuntu package issue'. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:38 PM, David Jones wrote: > Sorry about that, > On May 5, 2012 1:31 PM, "Gareth France" wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM, David Jones < > djones.dan...@g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Re: Wine on Precise

2012-05-05 Thread David Jones
Sorry about that, On May 5, 2012 1:31 PM, "Gareth France" wrote: > > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM, David Jones wrote: >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: "Gareth France" >> Date: May 5, 2012 11:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine on Precise >> To: "UK Ubuntu Talk" >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Re: Wine on Precise

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM, David Jones wrote: > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Gareth France" > Date: May 5, 2012 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine on Precise > To: "UK Ubuntu Talk" > > On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Barry Drake > wrote: > > > > On 04/05/12 22:

[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: Re: Wine on Precise

2012-05-05 Thread David Jones
-- Forwarded message -- From: "Gareth France" Date: May 5, 2012 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine on Precise To: "UK Ubuntu Talk" On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Barry Drake wrote: > > On 04/05/12 22:43, Gareth France wrote: >> >> The Pokerstars poker client has always been

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine on Precise

2012-05-05 Thread Gareth France
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Barry Drake wrote: > On 04/05/12 22:43, Gareth France wrote: > >> The Pokerstars poker client has always been a little flakey under wine. >> The newest version tends to crash about once a minute, but installing an >> older version of wine instead produced a stable r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-05 Thread kpb
On 05/05/12 09:46, scoundrel50a wrote: . > then I try the terminal and use ubuntu-bug whatever and it says it > cant find the crash report. ubuntu-bug shouldn't be looking for crash reports. It should just file a new bug. oh, ok, now I have learnt something, what is the difference be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-05 Thread Kris Douglas
A bug can be a flaw in an otherwise functional program, like a typo or an unclickable button. A crash is when the program ceases to respond to user interaction, usually seen as it just closing. An example of a crash on say, android, is when you get a "force close" message. On May 5, 2012 9:47 AM,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error report not working

2012-05-05 Thread scoundrel50a
On 04/05/12 23:59, Alan Pope wrote: On 04/05/12 12:18, scoundrel50a wrote: > Since I had to do the reinstall, I keep getting crash reports, a > lot more than what I was getting when it was running beta 1.I > click on the crash report logo, it brings up the box, which shows > what has cra