Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-09-20 Thread Joseph Walton-Rivers
nb. there are also commands which don't require additional (non-repo) packages to be installed. The command shread should allow you to shread files. http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_shred.htm Joseph Walton-Rivers, webpig...@gmail.com | www.webpigeon.me.uk On 19 September 2010 20:30,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-09-19 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Saturday 18 Sep 2010 23:35:26 John Matthews wrote: Hi, thank you so much for giving me that info I installed it, and it works so quite happy. Problem is, the http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/ website, only deals with ubuntu up to 9.04 I think, is there an up

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-09-18 Thread John Matthews
On 17/09/10 11:39, azmodie wrote: secure-delete is a command line tool and must be run from the terminal. i believe the command you are looking fro is srm. try typeing man srm in terminal. i personaly have not used it. i have used wipe command in the past .

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-09-17 Thread John Matthews
On 11/08/10 13:07, Alan Pope wrote: On 11 August 2010 12:47, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com wrote: I tried to install it, from the repository, it says its installed, but I cant find it any where. Where would it install to? This lists the files in the package:-

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-09-17 Thread azmodie
On 17 September 2010 11:04, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: On 11/08/10 13:07, Alan Pope wrote: On 11 August 2010 12:47, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com wrote: I tried to install it, from the repository, it says its installed, but I cant find it any where. Where would it install

[ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Byte Soup
Hi Folks, One of my family wants to shred some HDDs before discarding them, or giving them away on freecycle. What application would you all recommend to do this? I have used shred to remove files, but I dont think it can do an entire disc (i.e. some previously deleted files) Thanks -Mark --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Pope
On 11 August 2010 11:01, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote: One of my family wants to shred some HDDs before discarding them, or giving them away on freecycle. What application would you all recommend to do this? I have used shred to remove files, but I dont think it can do an entire disc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Bill Cumming
Best way is probavly just to use the dd command: If you run off of a live CD then just point dd to the drive instead of a file. Example: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda That will overwrite the entire drive that's on /dev/sda with random data destroying any Filesystem on that drive. You

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Dan Fish
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:12 +0100, Bill Cumming wrote: Best way is probavly just to use the dd command: If you run off of a live CD then just point dd to the drive instead of a file. Example: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda That will overwrite the entire drive that's on /dev/sda with

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Pope
On 11 August 2010 11:39, Dan Fish d...@fishms.org wrote: My only beef with dd is the lack of feedback - nothing appears to be happening. There's a replacement in the repos called dcfldd. Does a similar thing and accepts similar arguments but gives back a progress bar of sorts.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Sean Miller
On 11 August 2010 11:41, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: http://linuxcommando.blogspot.com/2008/06/show-progress-during-dd-copy.html Interesting... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Bill Cumming
if you install dcfldd instead you get some feed back it's basically dd with a few tweeks. On 11 August 2010 11:41, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 11 August 2010 11:39, Dan Fish d...@fishms.org wrote: My only beef with dd is the lack of feedback - nothing appears to be happening. There's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Vince Marsters
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:05 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: DBAN - Darik's Boot and Nuke. http://www.dban.org/ I would echo Alan's recommendation of DBAN. Choose one of the DOD options and you will be erasing to a level approved for use on Gov drives too. Vince -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread John Matthews
On 11/08/10 11:46, Vince Marsters wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:05 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: DBAN - Darik's Boot and Nuke. http://www.dban.org/ I would echo Alan's recommendation of DBAN. Choose one of the DOD options and you will be erasing to a level approved for use on Gov drives

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Pope
On 11 August 2010 12:15, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: What about hd you are still using, but have deleted stuff on them. Is there any way to bring that back, or even completely delete it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/secure-delete Even if you overwrite a file 10+ times, it can still be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Vince Marsters
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:15 +0100, John Matthews wrote: What about hd you are still using, but have deleted stuff on them. Is there any way to bring that back, or even completely delete it? I had a program for windows when i used it, but I cant find anything for linux. For data recovery

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Bill Cumming
Quick question: With dd (and dcfldd) it's east to write 0 (zeros) out to a drive but how can you write just *1 (ones) out instead? On 11 August 2010 12:33, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 12:15 +0100, John Matthews wrote: What about hd you are still using,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread John Matthews
On 11/08/10 12:19, Alan Pope wrote: On 11 August 2010 12:15, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com wrote: What about hd you are still using, but have deleted stuff on them. Is there any way to bring that back, or even completely delete it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/secure-delete

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Pope
On 11 August 2010 12:47, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: I tried to install it, from the repository, it says its installed, but I cant find it any where. Where would it install to? This lists the files in the package:- http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/secure-delete/filelist

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 11/08/10 12:19, Alan Pope wrote: Even if you overwrite a file 10+ times, it can still be recovered... Well here's a bloke who has *never* been able to recover stuff that he accidentally deleted, especially on xfs. Backups FTW! Al -- The Open Learning Centre

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Glen Mehn
If you really want to do something like this, you'd need to write a bit of C or something that outputs 1s and compile it. You could, I suppose, in python (or even bash) do something like while true() print chr(0xff) though if you do the equivalent in C (or anything compiled) as it'll be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Beard
On 11/08/2010 11:46, Vince Marsters wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:05 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: DBAN - Darik's Boot and Nuke. http://www.dban.org/ I would echo Alan's recommendation of DBAN. Choose one of the DOD options and you will be erasing to a level approved for use on Gov drives

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Tony Arnold
Bill, On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 11:12 +0100, Bill Cumming wrote: Best way is probavly just to use the dd command: If you run off of a live CD then just point dd to the drive instead of a file. Example: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda That will overwrite the entire drive that's on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Byte Soup
On 11 August 2010 13:36, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: I'd also recommend DBAN, I've used it quite a bit, personally and also for companies getting rid of machines. I believe it'll even do multiple drives at once if you want to erase a few drives (although as mentioned elsewhere, make

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Bill Cumming
i know! I usually just use /dev/zero for day to day stuff, but if i've just got a drive from someone, or giving it away, I usually run it through a dcfldd wipe sequence of zero / urandom / zero just to be sure.. ^_^ On 11 August 2010 13:54, Tony Arnold tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk wrote: Bill,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Beard
On 11/08/2010 13:56, Byte Soup wrote: On 11 August 2010 13:36, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk mailto:r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: I'd also recommend DBAN, I've used it quite a bit, personally and also for companies getting rid of machines. I believe it'll even do multiple

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On Wednesday 11 Aug 2010 11:01:16 Byte Soup wrote: One of my family wants to shred some HDDs before discarding them, or giving them away on freecycle. What application would you all recommend to do this? I have used shred to remove files, but I dont think it can do an entire disc (i.e. some

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread gazz
I use act...@killdisk cos it's easy and bootable. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shredding HDD data

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Beard
On 11/08/10 14:15, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: On Wednesday 11 Aug 2010 11:01:16 Byte Soup wrote: One of my family wants to shred some HDDs before discarding them, or giving them away on freecycle. What application would you all recommend to do this? I have used shred to remove files, but I dont