Hi there folks,
I've just subscribed to the list, and thought it'd be a good idea to say hello!
My name is Chris, I hail from East Yorkshire, and I've been using
Ubuntu for a while now. I use Ubuntu at home, on the computer of
anyone who I can convince to switch from Windows, and on a few
I checked out the ubuntuforums.org earlier today to see whether or not
there was a UK LoCo section there.
I was a little surprised to read that the mailing list had voted not
to have a presence at ubuntuforums.org and I have a little difficulty
understanding why.
Surely in this day and age,
Hey there - thanks for the welcome ;-)
I'd tend to agree with you. It'd be great if the mailing list stuff
could get shunted to a forum too. I know a couple of LUG's that do
that.
I suppose it's all pretty dependent on who you want to attract to a discussion.
After reading that you'd had this
When I open a file, often it comes up behind the browser instead of in
front. How do I remedy this, please. Being a thickie, I forget to
look behind and assume that it has not been opened, so I do it again.
You don't know how freaky that is. My missus has a really irritating habit
of doing
I think that we've got to be adult about this.
I believe that the code of conduct - like most other rules in our
society is meant to protect people and values.
Where we start to go wrong, is by using any set of rules to their
maximum extent to prove a point, appear clever or knowledgeable or to
I am happy with this list in its current form. I happen to like gmane
via NNTP and if pressed (i.e. not using my own machine)will use the web
interface. So I agree with Robin's conclusion albeit for different reasons.
I'll take a look at this NNTP /gname interface - sounds interesting. I
Simple Machines Forum has caught my eye
http://www.simplemachines.org/
SMF isn't bad at all. Doesn't feel as bloated as some of the other
offerings out there.
Chris
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http://www.getgnulinux.org is designed to change this. It explains
what Linux is on a level that even non-tech types could understand and
also why and how they would switch. It is a perfect site for someone
who knows nothing about Linux at all.
I like the site very much - Good Job !!
My personal view is that the penguin is the Linux Brand. I don't
refer to Linux as GNU/Linux because it's too clumsy in my opinion -
Agreed,
I know non-techie types who've heard of Linux, but none who've heard
of GNU. I think it just complicates matters a little perhaps?
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At the risk of being keelhauled - I gotta say - what he says does make
sense to be fair :-S
Chris
On 23/03/07, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Wood wrote:
Two things have really touched a nerve with me recently and I would like
to open a discussion.
Firstly:
I'm quite new to the group, and I've just been looking at
planet.ubuntu-uk to see what other kinds of people belong to
ubuntu-uk. I just wanted to say I've really enjoyed some of the music
that Jono Bacon has created over at recreantview.com/blog
If you appreciate music of the metal kind with
or am i going senial, and investing in vista!
language! :-)
(invest?)
It always confuses me when people pay to downgrade to vista lol ;-P
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Hi folks,
I've been trying to get better at using Gimp and Inkscape and have
created some ubuntu-uk artwork. It's a single graphic type jobby
that'd be OK for a forum avatar, desktop icon or whatnot
If anyone likes it, feel free to use it. If anyone has any feedback,
please feel free to
Well - feel free to use if for whatever, like I say - it was an
experiment, if you want to submit it as the team logo again (of course
if everyone is in agreement) then feel free, if you don't feel free
;-) - I didn't have a particular function in mind when I created it,
and donate it freely to
I did a fresh install of Feisty yesterday.
This is looking like it's going to be an amazing release, and if we
can't win over new users with this, then our approach is probably wrong,
because the software certainly isn't.
I think to push Ubuntu the Windows and Mac user we really have to
This has been suggested in the past. As far as I can tell it never moved off
the this would be nice drawing board.
Congratulations on volunteering to take up the batton.. :)
lol - Hey I'd be happy to set something up -
The videos would have to be youtube hosted however as although I have
Alan is being modest here. He has already contributed several howto
screen casts. Check out
http://doc.ubuntu.com/screencasts/
Yeah, I've seen Alan's screen casts already and they're great. The
problem is I'd consider these to be post-adoption tutorials rather
than something inciting people
On 27/03/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example, see
the recent advice from the Ubuntu webmaster for locoteams who customise
the logo -
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-March/001196.html
So, if redesigning the logo, please follow his guidelines
For example, see
the recent advice from the Ubuntu webmaster for locoteams who customise
the logo -
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2007-March/001196.html
So, if redesigning the logo, please follow his guidelines.
Matt
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Hi Matt -
If following the guidelines, it looks
It's likely that they were approved because Canonical have been quite easy
in the past about this. However Matthew's email shows that they are now
(rightly, in my opinion) looking to have more consistent logos used.
Ah OK - So Canonical doesn't allow derivative works to be made of
their logo
Organisations have to be very protective about their trademarks. If they
are allowed to be used freely as is or modified, then they can lose
their trademark status through general usage. The Kleenex company in the
US had this problem many years ago. I think there was a big court case
about
Not really a turnaround. The trademark policy is quite clear on
modifying the logo.
http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
Those have been the same since at least 2005, probably longer.
In which case nowt has changed then ;-)
So there should be no problem with submitting modified
I wonder if anyone has ever thought about setting up an Ubuntu
community support line?
Using VoIP technology it's not actually too difficult to get a
landline number routed to VoIP at little or no cost.
Does anyone think that setting up a voluntary 'community help desk'
telephone line could help
Hi Matt,
However, as we've all said on this thread already, Canonical are quite
nice about the issue in general. These are intended to be guidelines,
which we should follow, rather than some kind of dictatorial stance.
I don't really see how this issue is complicated!!
Matt
It's not
Yet another stunner from Google:
http://www.google.com/tisp/
M.
You may jest ;-)
Check this out http://www.focuss.net/ - Not too far removed from the truth!!
Chris
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I have an nVidia GeForce 4 MX integrated card. Do I need nvidia-glx or
nvidia-glx-legacy for hardware emulation?
Hi Michael,
l believe that Ubuntu is using the 1.0.8776 nvidia-glx driver.
According to the readme included with this driver your card should be
supported by it. The latest nvidia
Ooops BTW - I'm presuming you're using Edgy here ;-)
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Thought I'd better introduce myself.
I'm Mark Harrison:
From one SLUG[0] to another, welcome. :)
M.
Hi there Mark,
How ya doin' !! ;-)
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(gksu update-manager -c )
Hey.
Can anyone point we towards any documentation for the switches used
after update-manager ? -c -d etc
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I got this by typing update-manager --help in a terminal:
Usage: update-manager [options]
Thanks Eamonn - I guess I should have thought of that :-P !!
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Hi people,
Welcome Pete,
Nice to meet you !!
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Yes it does mate:
The Ndisgtk package does this (Windows Wireless Drivers in add/remove programs).
Install it and it creates a Windows Wireless Drivers entry in system
administration. You can now point it to the .inf file from a Windows
driver disk You never know it just might work ;-)
Oh bollocks. We don't want to scare the lad, so I'm afraid it's going to
have to be PCLinuxOS :-(
I'm surprised, doesn't he have a wired ethernet connection on his PC ?
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Is there a simple way of finding out whether
all the Ndisgtk dependencies are satisfied by a default Feisty CD
install? I'd guess so (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/ndisgtk),
but you never can tell.
I'm not sure - the only way I can think of is to work your way backward
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Is there a simple way of finding out whether
all the Ndisgtk dependencies are satisfied by a default Feisty CD
install? I'd guess so (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/ndisgtk),
but you never can tell.
I'm not sure - the only way I can think of is to work your way backward
Or I
In a similar vane, can Ubuntu be set up to work in a thin client scenario by
which I mean the computer that the user is booting up takes all it's OS from
a central server.
Hi Ian,
Feisty server edition ships with linux terminal server project
software. http://www.ltsp.org/
With 7.04 comes
I've just come across this. I thought I'd share it in case anyone
hadn't seen it before. There's a .deb available on the site.
http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
It's a hack that makes GIMP work like photoshop... From the website:
If you've never used Photoshop before, you may not appreciate
I created this entry on the Dell IdeaStorm site. Please vote for it
and or comment.
http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/66735/Extend_offers_like_Linux_preinstallation_to_the_UK__Europe
Cheers
Chris
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Good work... it seems that there are already a couple of duplicates on the
site, but more can't do any harm! Vote for all three!
http://www.ideastorm.com/article/show/66735/Extend_offers_like_Linux_preinstallation_to_the_UK__Europe
I always find this a toughy.
One problem I often encounter in my 20 something peer group is lack of
support for gaming. For instance, as I write this, I'm setting up a
computer with Feisty and trying to get Eve online working on it.
That's one thing that's very important to a lot of people, and
Is this an occasion where it's important to recognise our weaknesses
and pick our battles carefully? If Ubuntu is not ready to be a
platform for high-end gaming let's admit it: currently it's just not
easy and easy is what people want with their appliances.
I'm inclined to agree with you,
Hmmm, this is interesting. Looks like Canonical has plans for Ubuntu
on mobile devices
http://www.ubuntu.com/employment#UMDEV
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Hi Ian,
Welcome to the list mate!
You can find more out about the UK local community team here:
http://ubuntu-uk.org/
It shows blogs, the wiki page, IRC etc
Have fun!
Chris
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OK, we've had lots of ideas and some quite warm debate, and a secret
need to
find out about the Veeches mate's girl friend (!)
You ARE going to get me into trouble!
Mooowahahahaha - the plot thickens
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It's definitely a case of getting people to see Ubuntu.
A friend of mine had a computer on which the mainboard had failed. I
had a spare mainboard knocking about - so I replaced his with it -
this of course requiring a re-install of Windows. My friend didn't
have a licensed copy of Windows so I
... When we're
asked for essays it's in 'formats compatible with the College computer
network, such as MS Word documents' (paraphrase), rather than
suggesting .odt and so on. Grr.
Yeah, that's pretty irritating.
With users I've converted over, I've always ended up setting OO to
write to MS
You should lookinto things like SODA
Hi Nik,
I've been looking for some info on SODA, and although it's referenced
in quite a few places, I can't find the 'home' of the project.
I did however find this document which outlines an open source
deployment to an enterprise organisation:
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/05/04/tory_opensource/
This is pretty interesting though...
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I can hear you loud and clear, can't speak for anyone else mind.
Transmission coming though
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Hmmm, this is interesting. Looks like Canonical has plans for Ubuntu
on mobile devices
Also covered by BBC News:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6634195.stm
And Slashdotted now...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/08/137238
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They have their I'm a Mac, I'm a PC adds, each one is short and
addresses a specific problem with PC's that Mac's don't. I'm not
saying we all put millions in to a TV campaign and hiring comedians.
Rather I suggest that rather than producing one almighty leaflet that
we make a small series of
This will of course happen once the stuff is in place - assuming we decide
to put the site in bzr. I just spoke to Jono and he is keen for us to do
this also.
Without getting embroiled in the discussion ;-)
Just in case anyone isn't really familiar with bazaar, I wrote a walk
through a couple
I was just browsing through the No 10 E-Petitions website and came
across these two petitions. I signed them and hope you will too ;-)
Please spread them around if you can.
Chris
Encourage Greater Use of Open
dotProject is a web based project/GANT application
dotproject is pretty good.
Chris
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A recent article in Linux Magazine demonstrates a secure VNC tool.
http://www.linux-mag.com/id/3214/
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Congratulations to Steve Belcher who became Ubuntu-UK's 200th member on
launchpad[1].
All in a matter of 8 Months and 8 days, well done everyone for spreading
the love.
Here, Here
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Here, Here
Or in fact hear, hear in one of my less language-challenged moments!!
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Hey all,
I've been reading this list for the past few months and enjoy the good
quality of discussion, so I've decided to get off the fence and hope to
become more involved in Ubuntu's great community.
Hey there Dave,
Nice to meet you ;-)
I only recently joined the group myself, and find
I thought it'd be interesting to find out what it is that impresses
new non-techie users the most about Ubuntu.
For people who are 'into' IT it may be engineering, adaptability or
the politics of FOSS. For the large majority though it's likely to be
something quite different.
I hope that this
Haha. 1 point for effort for getting other people to do your
school/college/uni assignments - minus 10 points to everyone who has
answered so far :)
Cheers,
Al.
I didn't think anyone else had noticed :-P
Chris
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It'd be a lot more irritating if you paid for an operating system that
had problems which weren't being fixed
Seven weeks ago, when we first reported Vista was causing many
machines to stall indefinitely while deleting, copying and moving
files, we were sure the problem was caused by a bug
With all due respect Norman, I'm a little confused at where this
conversation is going.
OK - So you had some problems with upgrading to Feisty. You have
complained that it didn't work, and immediately had offers of help
from people such as Alan (who is an extremely knowledgeable member of
the
I found this article here http://www.fsb.org.uk/data/default.asp?id=7loc=it
Who wrote this? I've not read anything as poorly thought out and badly
researched as this in a long time!
Nick, you're involved with the FSB aint'cha... I'd be having a word!
Chris
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Who wrote this? I've not read anything as poorly thought out and badly
researched as this in a long time!
Actually I found out exactly who writes this pro MS anti Linux stuff...
It's the chairman of the FSB IT committee, who coincidentally develops
software using - you guessed it - Microsoft
Thanks I am a member and I will call him tommorow .
Cheers Nick
People abusing positions of power for self-propaganda and personal
gain is one of my pet hates!!! Let us know how you get on.
Chris
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I have also written to Mr Scargill. I have tried to remain respectful,
and in retrospect I did come on a bit strong initially.
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Hi Peter,
Please allow me to introduce myself.
My name is Chris; and I work in second line support
I should have remembered: Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance.
:-)
Hwyl,
Neil.
Hey Neil
I always remembered another P being in there too!!! ;-)
Chris
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All,
Due to popular demand I've made planet.ubuntu-uk.org look a lot nicer
(hopefully) and it now has the facilities to have more information about
each author.
It looks great mate - well done :-D
Chris
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Just checking out The Register and I found an article about MS's new
product. Microsoft Surface. Credit where credit's due - I think it
looks pretty uber! If they've patented the concept behind this, it'd
be hard to compete in a lot of applications in the future
What do you think?
Hi all,
Quick question on shell commands.
I understand that to background a shell command, you need to end the
command with
I also get that if you have a command running, pressing Ctrl and Z
suspends it, then typing bg puts it into the background (fg bringing
it forward again).
When I run
Thanks guys :-D
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Hi all,
It looks like various people have opinions and ideas around a 'face to
face' or voice support service delivered over VoIP and or telephone.
I've created a page on the wiki here to help organise things:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/VoiceSupport
Please feel free to flesh it out ;-)
Just a note folks - there's a page on the wiki devoted to this now...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/VoiceSupport
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Some really interesting thoughts there - I've updated the wiki.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/VoiceSupport
Chris
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I've been trying to put together some info here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/LinuxAndOSSResearchAndAdvocacy
It might be of some help to you.
Chris
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This is a superb idea :-D
Chris
It could be like a 3 step leaflet: Download, Burn, Install. Put
another page full of 'myth-busters' (ie no it wont wreck your windows
install, you wont lose data if you partition right, etc.
Couple of screenshots and performance comparisons, quick explanation
I created my concept of a friendly non-techie Ubuntu promotion leaflet
incorporating some of the ideas I liked on the list.
It's here if anyone would like to check it out - suggestions welcome
http://justuber.com/projects:ubuntu_leaflets
Chris
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-- Attachments and add yours.
'Tis done !
I would also strongly urge you not to link to ubuntuguide.org, but
instead only link to official sites such as those within the *ubuntu.com
domain like wiki.ubuntu.com and
I've uploaded a new revision - This one changes the links to the
getting started page to official ubuntu ones as suggested by Alan P.
Hey Alan - thanks for replying :-D
Personally I find fancy fonts slower to read, so my inclination would
be to use the layout and content to grab attention
Also, how about some graphics? Doesn't have to be overstated, but the Ubuntu
logo would be nice. Possibly also a watermark-style image in the back of each
segment, relating to the content of the segment (e.g. for burn, you'd have a
image
of a CD)
Yeah - I did think about that, if the text
I'm gonna knock up my own prototype in the next few days, definitely
stealing the cuppa line.
Heheheh - Glad you like it ;-)
I think as regards the leaflet project, the more examples we can get
the better - taking the bits of other people's leaflets that you like,
and adding your own
I'm not sure about adding a footer, it just seems like we are 'trying
to hard' if we do that. What might be better is putting that info in
the FOSS section ie: To demonstrate how good FOSS software is, this
leaflet you are reading was made using OpenOffice, a piece of OSS
software! -- maybe
I had a bash with graphics now ;-)
Chris
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Oh yeah - sorry heres a link
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=leaflet2_withgraphics_chris_rowson.pdf
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Damn... that's good.
I agree about the wording points that have been raised, but I'm
printing these for SFD and using them in Thanet!
Wow thanks :-D
I used OO.org Draw but it was on Windows (I'm at work and the ubuntu
box was in use) so I cheated a bit.
Just go to the leaflets page in
Nice. Showed it to a friend whose first reaction was
It needs capital letters.
Yeah, my friend said that too - I was trying to be funky and
unconventional :-P I could put 'em in though!
Also note the URL broken over two lines. URLs could legitimately be in a
smaller font I suspect, and you
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Hi Chris (and since it's my first post to the list, a general hello to
all too)
I like your pretty version but have a few very minor (proofreading-y)
niggles.
Thanks :-)
Hi Louisa, I'll go through it when I get home and make some
I like the graphics on that one. Just out of interest, where did you
get the picture of the field from? (I'm assuming not that other OS
beginning with W?)
Rob
I was waiting for someone to ask that :-P
I got it from a stock photo site http://www.sxc.hu
Chris
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changes as discussed on the list:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Leaflets?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=leaflet2_withgraphics_0.1_chris_rowson.pdf
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Wherever it comes from it needs to be licensed in such a way that we can
redistribute it freely of course :)
Licensing for the tellytubby image... (seems OK to me)
We hereby grant to You a non-exclusive, non-transferable license to
use the Image on the terms and conditions explained in this
Nice. I love the fact that this is a real collaborative effort. With
input from multiple community members.
Yeah, I gotta agree with you there Alan, I'm also liking this
community working vibe :-D
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Is there a real desire to promote the use of Ubuntu and, if so, why?
If there was no desire to use Ubuntu it would be pretty pointless
being subscribed to an Ubuntu mailing list wouldn't it?
Who do you expect to be interested enough to even give Ubuntu a try?
What made you interested enough
This sparked off an idea... could we have a version of the leaflet targeted
at being handed out with a live cd included?
Johnathon
I had puzzled that one over myself. Seems to me that if someone
actually had the CD too, it'd be one less excuse!
I did wonder however what the best format
Hi Ian
I'm not an expert in this kind of thing but have you checked out Ubuntu Studio?
As far as I'm aware it's supposed to by a fully featured audio and
video studio distribution.
Chris
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Hi Folks
Need some recommendations from you please.
This topic makes me think though.
Wouldn't isolating all net enabled applications in this manner pretty
much secure linux? Why aren't distributions running like this as
standard?
Chris
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Time to start petitioning Dell again?
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/20/1215213
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As dell are refusing to sell Linux-based computers outside of the US
(even the redhat/SLED servers seem to only be sold over there), can
someone supply me with contact details (a website will do nicely!) of
a company that are preferably based in the UK and supply
servers/desktops that will
Hi Folks,
This message has been posted to Ubuntu-UK Ubuntu Marketing because
I'm hoping that there are people subscribed to both lists with
thoughts on this subject.
With Software Freedom Day around the corner (September 15th) I've been
pondering upon the subject of how to reel in the punters.
Where are you based at the moment?
Over near Hull - East Yorkshire - Currently working in the public sector.
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I enjoy using Ubuntu because, like many others on the list I'm really
impressed with the ability to quickly get and install good quality
free programs!
I use Dapper servers at work where I can (internet/intranet mostly),
because unlike my Windows Server 2003 servers, I can just set them up
and
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