As Trusty Tahr is a LTS edition, it should include the bug resolution so
that it won't last for years.
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Title:
Right-Ctrl key
You're kidding ! In France, professional typographists use Macintosh, I
fear. And the average French user is not Joe, he's Jean.
And I'll write unconstructive sarcasms until I get my Right-Ctrl back ! (Do
note the French style space before the exclamation marks)
Le 12 mai 2014 07:10, Swâmi
However, for most French people, standard Right-Ctrl key is more important
than Nbsp.
Especially for left-handed people who use left hand for the mouse and most
letters, and right hand for Shift, Ctrl and AltGr. A notable exception is
Alt which only exists on the left.
Anyway, it's written Ctrl
What if nbsp is accessible using AltGr+Space or AltGt+Shift+Space ?
2014-05-07 14:00 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Castro emmanuel.cas...@laposte.net:
However, for most French people, standard Right-Ctrl key is more
important than Nbsp.
Especially for left-handed people who use left hand for the mouse
Before searching a level5 chooser, please, a quick fix!
2014-05-02 0:59 GMT+02:00 Sergey V. Udaltsov s...@gnome.org:
Nicolas, I understand the logic in your position about Level 5. But I
see a number of unhappy people. Could we find some other level5 chooser?
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Rendez-vous la touche Ctrl-Droite, souiplait :-/
PLEASE GIVE US OUR RIGHT [CTRL] KEY BEHAVING AS A [CTRL] KEY BACK !!!
It is especially important for left-handed people.
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I vote for Both [CTRL] keys should act as [CTRL] keys.
Left one, rigth one, period.
If it is not clear enough : Je vote pour que les deux touches [CTRL]
agissent comme une touche [CTRL], la gauche, la droite, point-barre !
Et arrêtez vos conneries
2014-04-18 6:56 GMT+02:00 Swâmi Petaramesh
Swâmi Petaramesh, vous avez bien raison !
Hopefuly, Ubuntu 13.10 kept the standard behavior for french keyboards
(both Français and Français (variante) a.k.a French alternative).
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I've analysed the use of nbsp(levelX) in all the keyboards defined in
/usr/share/X11/xkb
Keyboards defining nbsp on level 3:
./symbols/tr:include nbsp(level3)
./symbols/fi:include nbsp(level3)
./symbols/lt:include nbsp(level3)
./symbols/fr:include nbsp(level3) // French
Unfortunately, the test failed:
– Right Ctrl works = OK
– Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works = KO
– Nbsp is available (on level 4) = OK
I think it w
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Unfortunately, the test failed:
– Right Ctrl works = OK
– Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works = KO
– Nbsp is available (on level 4) = OK
I think I was not clear in comment #24. The comment #22 of Sebastien Bacher is
clearer.
The line 128 of symbol/fr
include nbsp(level4nl)
must be replaced by
Ok
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** Tags added: verification-done
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Title:
Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
After discussions about the bug #1013881, it seems that the right way to solve
this bug is to change the line 128 of symbol/fr
include nbsp(level4nl)
by
include nbsp(level4n)
For an unknown reason, the line «include nbsp(level4nl)» produces the
bug of Rhythmbox.
This way, we can get :
–
Since 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, I guess this bug
will become very popular...
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the SRU.
When you say upstream, do you mean the FreeDesktop bug?
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I've just tested the patch from Sebastian, i.e. removing the «include
level5(rctrl_switch)» from the current precise-proposed package. The
behavior is Ok for me:
– Right Ctrl works
– Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works
– Nbsp is available (on level 4).
Now, what is the procedure to cook the patch of the
As stated previously (#9), the problem only appears when activating the
'precise-proposed' package source. However, if it is not solved now, the
problem will appear for every user using the French Oss keyboard (that is
most of French users).
2012/6/25 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com
Hey
Yes, I am left handed! So what?
Having RCtrl broken is against the tradition of computer keyboards. It is
against the philosophy of Ubuntu: computer for people – including left
handed, those who are born with two hands, and those who have to type only
with one.
Letting a bug in Rhythmbox is not
Do you need help from me to solve the problem?
Cordially
Emmanuel Castro
2012/6/24 Dave Gilbert ubu...@treblig.org
High - A problem with an essential hardware component (Keyboard)
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = High
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The solution posted in comment #27 disables the standard behaviour of
the Right-Ctrl key. It is annoying for most users! (I first thought that
my keyboard was broken).
See the bug 1013881 in Ubuntu
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881
My opinion is that the
And what if instead of
include nbsp(level4nl)
we put non-breaking space to level 3. I find it more convenient (
include nbsp(level4n)
include level5(rctrl_switch)
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And what if instead of level 4, we put non-breaking space to level 3. I
find it is more convenient (and I think I am not alone).
So, instead of:
include nbsp(level4nl)
we put non-breaking space to level 3:
include nbsp(level3n)
This gives us back the Right-Ctrl. It does not break
Thank you for the information.
I am puzzled by the way how the bug FreeDesktop bug 15804 was handled!
The correct way to solve the RhythmBox bug was to remove the line
include nbsp(level4nl)
not patching the keyboard with the ugly
include level5(rctrl_switch)
Ok, we are loosing the
And what if instead of level 4, we put non-breaking space to level 3. I
find it is more convenient (and I think I am not alone).
So, instead of:
include nbsp(level4nl)
we put non-breaking space to level 3:
include nbsp(level3n)
This gives us back the Right-Ctrl. It does not break
It is probably because the config file for Belgian OSS include French OSS.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alexeyten/xkeyboard-config/master/view/1477/symbols/be
line 69
Par ailleurs, pour revenir à un clavier qui marche :
– lancez Synaptics (installez le si besoin),
– sélectionnez le paquet
It seems to be linked to this modification in wkeyboard-config
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alexeyten/xkeyboard-config/master/revision/1477#symbols/fr
It don't know what it tries to solve, but actually it creates more pain.
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The right CTRL key is wrongly assigned to Level5 (see the attached
picture).
** Attachment added: The right CTRL key is wrongly assigned to Level5
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+attachment/3192533/+files/French%20keyboard.png
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Public bug reported:
Since the version 2.5-1ubuntu1.2 of the package xkb-data, the right CTRL key of
the keyboard has ceased to work.
The problem started when APT has updated the xkd-data from 2.5-1ubuntu1 to
2.5-1ubuntu1.2.
If I switch back to 2.5.-1ubuntu1 using Synaptic, it works back.
Do note that the bug was reported AFTER switching back to the last fully
functional version of xkb-data.
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