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same here
i wonder what happened
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Dave Conniff daveconn...@gmail.com
wrote:
I just got the same thing
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cc:ed on the bug receives notifications of the new attachments. I'm
afraid there's not much that can be done about this problem in the short
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Assignee: (unassigned) =
This bug has been around for a very long time now--it seems over a year
and a half (not just from April because I have seen related posts dating
to 2008).
There are lots of different bugs that lead to the same problem -
namely that the system freezes. This particular bug report is for the
Hi Geir,
Thanks a lot for your response, even if it doesn't fix the problem.
I really appreciate your trying to help although I have a different
distribution. This goes to show how great a community you all have at
Ubuntu--which is more to than I can say right now about Mint.
By the way, do
This bug has been around for a very long time now--it seems over a year
and a half (not just from April because I have seen related posts dating
to 2008). Why is it so hard to remedy? Is it even known if this is
something wrong with the latests Ubuntu releases, latest kernels,
drivers, or just
This bug is marked as fixed, however with Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 5, the 3
times I logged in, the screen froze, the first and second times about 2
minutes after login, and the third time about ten minutes after login.
When this happens I have to power off the PC.
I was doing different things when the
zwaldowski [2009-07-15 0:43 -]:
Okay, where do I go next with this bug (not here on Launchpad; this
issue)? Despite it being marked Fix Released in both Jaunty and
Karmic, I still get the freeze with stock and Xorg-Edgers drivers (on
Jaunty) and on today's Daily Live CD.
If you get it
Okay, where do I go next with this bug (not here on Launchpad; this
issue)? Despite it being marked Fix Released in both Jaunty and
Karmic, I still get the freeze with stock and Xorg-Edgers drivers (on
Jaunty) and on today's Daily Live CD.
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Hi,
First thanks for all the effort to hunt this bug. =)
Not sure if this is related to this bug, but someone using Jaunty with
these updates could test the program Blender 3d (Version 2.49a) and see
if these artifacts still occurs?:
http://www.trollwerks.org/BrokenBlender.png
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Am Montag 22 Juni 2009 schrieb Martin Pitt:
Is there anyone who could give some feedback about a Jaunty
standard configuration/kernel with the jaunty-proposed -intel
driver?
Sure can. No freezes since I installed it, and I installed it as soon
as it hit the proposed repos +- a couple of
reini wrote:
Am Montag 22 Juni 2009 schrieb Martin Pitt:
Is there anyone who could give some feedback about a Jaunty
standard configuration/kernel with the jaunty-proposed -intel
driver?
Sure can. No freezes since I installed it, and I installed it as soon
as it hit the proposed repos +-
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* Add patch 121_reserve-unused-memory-at-end-of-aperture.patch. This
reserves a block of unused memory between the exa
This bug was fixed in the package compiz - 1:0.8.2-0ubuntu8.1
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* debian/patches/028_compiz_manager_blacklist: Revert change from
1:0.8.2-0ubuntu8 to un-blacklist GM965 (8086:2a02) again. We now have a
better
965 is not blacklisted in karmic's compiz any more:
compiz (1:0.8.2-0ubuntu12) karmic; urgency=low
[...]
[ Michael Vogt ]
* debian/patches/028_compiz_manager_blacklist:
- remove GM965 from the blacklist again, the karmic intel
driver should work fine with it
[...]
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Martin Pitt
martin.p...@ubuntu.comwrote:
karmic's compiz does not blacklist 965 any more either.
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I opened bug #390633 for intel freeze in Karmic when doing blank
screen.
Thanks for all the help, I think this issue is resolved for Jaunty and I
hope it doesn't come back for Karmic.
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i'm using kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (so jaunty stock including updates
(recommended, important))
I am also using the xserver-xorg-video-intel from the jaunty proposed repo.
I've been fine over the last 24 hours under normal usage with compiz
enabled and using mostly internet, videos, some wine.
What about Jaunty's Compiz?
It's not blacklisted anymore either. I've been running a stock Jaunty
system (with nothing from proposed) and I finally got my compiz back when I
installed a bunch of updates this morning.
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I got the same freeze again (with laptop screen closed) but without the
syslog messages, so its probably not related.
My problem is not an immediate lockup like it seems that Jithin Emmanuel
reported (though I haven't looked at the Xorg log yet) - if I just close
the lid and leave it for a few
Oded For me the lock up in instantaneously. So we might be having different
issues. I am using packages from xorg-edgers PPA.
And for me also there is no messages in syslog its only in Xorg log
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Oded Arbel o...@geek.co.il wrote:
I got the same freeze again (with
My freezes also occur when the laptop is idle for a long time, though I
don't close the lid or suspend the computer: Screensaver - screen off
(but never suspend/hibernate)...
So it certainly looks to me as though these freezes are different.
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For people having a freeze after recovery from screensaver, please refer
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Is there anyone who could give some feedback about a Jaunty standard
configuration/kernel with the jaunty-proposed -intel driver? We need
to get some verification to get this into jaunty-updates.
I would kindly ask people to stop reporting problems with 2.6.30/UXA
here. The bug trail is long
I have a regression in Karmic: after living with the green drivers for
a couple of week and everything was fine, I upgraded to Karmic on
Thursday and ever since I had multiple freezes. I don't know if this is
related to this bug, but I'll assume that it is unless someone tell me
otherwise:
I got
I can confirm the same issue of Obed Arbel, when I close the lid i get
the freezes, I don't get the freeze by doing hard work on the laptop or
using compiz, I am using the lastest intel driver available. I will try
to ssh to the machine next time to get some information.
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I have the same issue when X freezes on laptop lid close. Problem is X is in
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22383
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Jorge G geoj...@gmail.com wrote:
I can confirm the same issue of Obed Arbel, when I close
My situation:
Jaunty 32 bit with proposed update
xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2:6:3-0ubuntu9.3
kernel 2.6.28-13-generic
I enable Compiz and i open the Singapore image into Firefox without system
crash.
For me the bug is resolved.
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On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 07:05 +, Jithin Emmanuel wrote:
On Thursday 11 Jun 2009 4:43:06 am zwaldowski wrote:
Well, hot damn! Let me get that installed right now...
Jithin, before you do anything drastic, I just found out the hard way
that Fedora IS NOT FIXED. And they don't even have
I think the situation is improving and hope that by the time intel 2.8
driver is released everything is fixed. Except for these minor issues
I am almost happy with the current situation.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Soeren Sonnenburgbugrepo...@nn7.de wrote:
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 07:05 +,
If you're no longer experiencing freezes, and you're using xorg-edgers
stuff, please let us know /specifically/ which version of xserver-xorg-
video-intel you're running.
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video-intel you're running.
Not sure if I need to reply directly to this thread about this, but here
goes: I am using xserver-xorg-video-intel
Yes, I asked specifically because there is a(nother) regression in the latest
stuff from xorg-edgers, so I was going to try everything from today and
downgrade working backwards[1] until I found something that worked. But I'll
give 2.7.99.901
+git20090611.6d062e9e-0ubuntu0sarvatt~jaunty a try
I have been running with a kernel from the kernel-ppa 2.6.30
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/
and the intel driver 2.7.1 from X updates
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
and compiz reenabled for three days now without a freeze.
I am on amd64.
Best
On Monday 15 Jun 2009 2:17:54 am Mike.lifeguard wrote:
If you're no longer experiencing freezes, and you're using xorg-edgers
stuff, please let us know /specifically/ which version of xserver-xorg-
video-intel you're running.
I am using
xserver-xorg-video-intel
On Thursday 11 Jun 2009 4:43:06 am zwaldowski wrote:
Well, hot damn! Let me get that installed right now...
Jithin, before you do anything drastic, I just found out the hard way
that Fedora IS NOT FIXED. And they don't even have Magic SysRq's
enabled! Good thing I wasn't in the middle of
Hello Bernhard,
Bernhard [2009-06-07 19:27 -]:
Thanks a lot Martin, does this new proposed package include Bryce's
recent patch to bug 314928 as well?
No, not yet. Let's test that separately.
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Perhaps I spoke too soon... I've just got about five freezes in rapid
succession with Xorg-Edgers on 2.6.30. Would somebody be nice enough to
comment when the Green-PPA Intel package comes into proposed? It took
a week for the 2.6.28-13 packages to propogate to Proposed, even with
the depending
@zwaldowski:
Yes, same here. There was an update to xorg-intel stuff yesterday - I'm
reasonably sure that's the cause. Prior to that, no problems. After
that, freezes (though perfect performance until such a freeze). FWIW,
I'm using 2.6.30-020630rc8-generic.
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Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 schrieb zwaldowski:
Would somebody be
nice enough to comment when the Green-PPA Intel package comes
into proposed? It took a week for the 2.6.28-13 packages to
propogate to Proposed, even with the depending metapackages
already pushed out, so I was thinking it's
I'm reasonbly certain that this is the update I referred to above:
https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/647509
/+listing-archive-extra
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Yeah, Mike, I got freezes under that and the previous -intel build.
I just got the freshly-compiled 2.6.30 final from the kernel-ppa
that's not actually a PPA, and I still get freezes. Rapid-fire ones,
shockingly. Just like stock Jaunty.
Reini, are you sure? I use the main US servers and
Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 schrieb zwaldowski:
Reini, are you sure? I use the main US servers and still have
whatever version uses the VirtualSize fix (I can't recall the
version number off the top of my head, I'm in the hated OS right
now)
Yes, I'm surprisingly sure, considering I had to
Am Mittwoch 10 Juni 2009 schrieb zwaldowski:
Reini, are you sure? I use the main US servers and still have
whatever version uses the VirtualSize fix (I can't recall the
version number off the top of my head, I'm in the hated OS right
now)
Yes, I'm surprisingly sure, considering I had to
Well, hot damn! Let me get that installed right now...
Jithin, before you do anything drastic, I just found out the hard way
that Fedora IS NOT FIXED. And they don't even have Magic SysRq's
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Thanks zwaldowski I was planing to install it today. So every one has
the problem. Too bad fedora had it from f 10 onwards.
I am planning to give kernel 30 and xorg-edgers ppa a try. People
please continue posting their experience here so that we can lock on a
working combination for all.
On Thu,
While we're waiting for the new fix to hit the proposed repo, or if it
doesn't work for you from the green PPA, I'm able to report that the
latest packages from xorg-edgers totally and completely fix the freezes.
If you're beyond desperate, the new Fedora 11 does as well.
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@zwaldowski Are you sure fedora 11 fixes this completely. Do they use
UXA?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:56 AM, zwaldowskizwaldow...@gmail.com wrote:
While we're waiting for the new fix to hit the proposed repo, or if it
doesn't work for you from the green PPA, I'm able to report that the
latest
Jithin, I'm pretty sure it's fixed over there. I ran the 64-bit GNOME
Live CD from my USB key today for nearly an hour. I did many of the
things that usually reproduce the freeze, including large images in
Firefox, and switching back and forth between Compiz workspaces with
glxgears and Totem
On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 12:15 +, Martin Pitt wrote:
many thanks to Albert Damen for his comprehensive analysis. The cited
kernel patches are only for UXA and don't backport well, so we won't
backport them to Jaunty (at least not now). However, his aperture
patch already got good feedback and
On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 11:21:07PM -, Tom Jaeger wrote:
Thomas Foss wrote:
When in full-screen mode in Firefox (F11), the entire screen blinks
whenever the little alt-text window (or whatever it's called) pops up. It's
very annoying. I think it's more of a Compiz problem than a graphics
The glxgears seem to have no significance at all, I usually had a more
responsive Desktop when the glxgears performance was worse.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:04 PM, David Nemeskeynemesk...@gmail.com wrote:
Installed the green driver yesterday, and had not freezes since then.
However, the
True, but the other problems I mentioned are still there...
Also, I am sorry to report that I had another freeze with the green
driver. I had set the MigrationHeuristics to greedy before (this
morning), that may have something to do with it? There was no change in
the performance, though.
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Am Sonntag 07 Juni 2009 schrieb David Nemeskey:
Also, I am sorry to report that I had another freeze with the
green driver. I had set the MigrationHeuristics to greedy before
(this morning), that may have something to do with it? There was
no change in the performance, though.
There are
There are several freezes in the intel driver - could you describe
this one in a little more detail? Was the mouse responsive?
Yes, sorry, it was the that one. I am using KDE as KWin runs much
smoother than compiz. The freeze happened when I started a video in
Kaffeine. I could move the mouse,
Olá Tom e a todos.
On Sunday 07 June 2009 00:21:07 Tom Jaeger wrote:
This is going to happen if you unredirect fullscreen windows (System
- Preferences - CompizConfig Settings Manager - General Options -
General - Unredirect Fullscreen Windows).
Thanks. that fixed my prob with apps in
Accepted xserver-xorg-video-intel into jaunty-proposed, the package will
build now and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback
here. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for
documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!
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Thanks a lot Martin, does this new proposed package include Bryce's
recent patch to bug 314928 as well?
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Martin Pittmartin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Accepted xserver-xorg-video-intel into jaunty-proposed, the package will
build now and be available in a few hours.
Is there any solution with UXA. My system is super slow and KDE 4 is
useless without it because of screen corruption bug.
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Hello all,
many thanks to Albert Damen for his comprehensive analysis. The cited
kernel patches are only for UXA and don't backport well, so we won't
backport them to Jaunty (at least not now). However, his aperture
patch already got good feedback and seems to fix the problem in a much
better way
Quick question... does these freezes only happen when Compiz is enabled? I
think I have this bug (because I've got a 965GM chipset and Compiz is
disabled), but I've never had any freezes. Should I be re-enabling Compiz to
see if this patch fixes the problem, or will it remove the Compiz blacklist
The bug has happened both ways, usually faster if one has Compiz. If
you enable the proposed repo, you'll upgrade to a Compiz that doesn't
have the X3100 on the blacklist. Be careful, though, as a new kernel
somehow didn't get into proposed and you'll only be able to do a partial
upgrade
Am Samstag 06 Juni 2009 schrieb Martin Pitt:
Can people who are affected by this and who run a standard
configuration (i. e. NO UXA, NO KMS, NO 2.6.30 kernel, etc.)
please enable this PPA and test the updated -intel driver there?
https://launchpad.net/~bryceharrington/+archive/green
@Thomas Foss: I never had any freezes myself, even with compiz. But I
had enourmous problems with my video card when switching between
workspaces with many windows open, many audio streams, many flash
videos running. Try and check if you feel a difference using the new
patch. You can try using
Yes, please. It's just an annoyance but I have the same issue as reini.
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Quick question... does these freezes only happen when Compiz is enabled? I
think I have this bug (because I've got a 965GM chipset and Compiz is
disabled), but I've never had any freezes. Should I be re-enabling Compiz to
see if this patch fixes the
Alright, I'll give it a shot.
--Thomas
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com
wrote:
Thomas Foss [2009-06-06 13:18 -]:
Quick question... does these freezes only happen when Compiz is enabled?
I
think I have this bug (because I've got a 965GM chipset and
Graphics are really smooth. Window borders have gone all wonky... not
glitching, just... different. And I can't seem to change them back.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/455435/LiveJournal//Metacity.png
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/455435/LiveJournal/Compiz.png
(The Metacity screenshot is what the window
When in full-screen mode in Firefox (F11), the entire screen blinks
whenever the little alt-text window (or whatever it's called) pops up. It's
very annoying. I think it's more of a Compiz problem than a graphics problem
in general... but it didn't do this before. Perhaps a fresh install of
Compiz
This is going to happen if you unredirect fullscreen windows (System
- Preferences - CompizConfig Settings Manager - General Options -
General - Unredirect Fullscreen Windows).
Thomas Foss wrote:
When in full-screen mode in Firefox (F11), the entire screen blinks
whenever the little alt-text
I downgraded all my packages from xswat and xorg edgers to ones from
jaunty and installed this package.
One thing to notice is that its affected performance considerably
things are a lot slower and kde 4.2 is pretty mch useless without UXA
because of screen corrupting problem( Well I dont think
I haven't had this kind of freeze in several hours now. I have,
however, experienced another freeze where the screen just froze and
nothing reacted anymore (no mouse movement, nothing).
I believe this to be a different bug and will report it separately as
soon as I get around to it.
For now,
No Ubuntu developers are saying that users who want stable systems
should have stayed with intrepid, nor that users who want a fixed system
should upgrade to the karmic alpha. However, Launchpad Bugs is not a
discussion forum, it is a tool for developers and users to communicate
in order to *get
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 20.29 +, Noel J. Bergman ha scritto:
But then again MOST users should not be
running Jaunty. They should be running either Hardy or at most
Intrepid.
Ubuntu was born from debian for the two purposes of having a predictable
release cycle and high usability.
Of course Ubuntu recommends using jaunty. But the main issue here is
the Intel driver, so you cannot purely blame Ubuntu for this
particular problem. So it may be better to continue this discussion on
the freedesktop forum or send complaint mails to Intel?
I don't want to annoy Intel devs (since
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 19.59 +, reini ha scritto:
I'd like to point out that I tried the old (i.e. intrepid) driver
version (don't remember where I found it - it was somewhere in the
ubuntu wiki AFAIR). It didn't change the freezing problem at all
(made it worse if
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 21.01 +, José Tomás Atria ha scritto:
IMHO, please stop with all the discussion about what should have been
done, or if linux is ready for the desktop and whatnot.
We have a stable release that is recommended as stable to users. ALL
users.
this stable
reini wrote:
I experience two bugs:
a) this one (where the mouse is still responsive after freeze)
b) another one (where, after the freeze, the mouse doesn't react
anymore, either)
a) seems hasn't occured for me with the current driver since I
applied Albert's patch. It occurred
In fact, there is already an idea in the Brainstorm database :
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17218/
I think that implementing it could prevent, for the future, problems
like the one we are facing now.
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AFAIK, this bug cannot be fully fixed until Intel fixes the problems in
their new drivers, the introduction of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_Execution_Manager seems to have
failed badly.
So it's confusing to say that it's fixed in karmic. Maybe this should
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:17 PM, ichudov i...@chudov.com wrote:
When people say Linux is not ready for desktop, this is what they
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Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 13.17 +, ichudov ha scritto:
When people say Linux is not ready for desktop, this is what they
mean.
As a 12-years old (as a linux user) linux user, I have to say it's true.
I hoped for a long time that Ubuntu would have been different.
In this case,
Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 20.00 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto:
In this case, putting the old driver back in the distribution and
starting to chose the right driver based on user's feedback until the
too many intel issues are solved, would be mandatory.
@Bryce, it's easy to put
How would one reinstall the old driver? I didn't think it was an option.
Heck, I'd downgrade back to Intrepid if I there was a way to do it. There
should be a downgrade button that's as big and shiny as the Jaunty upgrade
button was.
(Or maybe the upgrade buttons could just have little warning
Am Donnerstag 04 Juni 2009 schrieb ichudov:
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 06:00:37PM -, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
In this case, putting the old driver back in the distribution
and starting to chose the right driver based on user's feedback
until the too many intel issues are solved, would be
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM, reini rrumber...@web.de wrote:
Am Donnerstag 04 Juni 2009 schrieb ichudov:
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 06:00:37PM -, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
In this case, putting the old driver back in the distribution
and starting to chose the right driver based on
We cannot really recommend to people to switch to pre-alpha Karmic,
either.
I agree, for most users. But then again MOST users should not be
running Jaunty. They should be running either Hardy or at most
Intrepid. WHAT, you say, but Jaunty is the latest and best and
released! So what? We
Am Donnerstag 04 Juni 2009 schrieb Thomas Foss:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM, reini rrumber...@web.de wrote:
I'd like to point out that I tried the old (i.e. intrepid)
driver version (don't remember where I found it - it was
somewhere in the ubuntu wiki AFAIR). It didn't change the
At present, with a 6 months release
cycle, users should probably be considering moving to a release around
the time its successor is released. Or staying with an LTS, and
upgrading when the successor's .1 comes out.
By the way, this is what most of people do with Windows. Even more :
Noel: sorry, but I think this is BS. Ubuntu doesn't call it's newest
version unstable or testing, which would tell the user that it's not
safe yet; quite the opposite in fact, if you read the homepage (you'll
always have the latest and greatest applications that the open source
world has to offer,
I guess from your post that your Hardy and Intrepid were bug-free?
Because mine sure weren't...
The most annoying bugs I experienced had this nice little phrase
somewhere near the bottom of the bug-thread. I went something like
that: Please upgrade to intrepid to see if the the issue still
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