I also noticed actual versions of xkb-data & xkb-data-i18n in Ubuntu
14.04.4/5 broke again right-ctrl-key with french ( alternative )
keyboard.
I've fixed it installing versions from xenial, using dpkg command.
http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/xkb-data
@Dominique Meèus : how did you install xkb-data 2.12-1 in Trusty ? I've
downloaded the .deb from https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/xkb-data/download
but gdebi says : État : Erreur : n'est plus fourni xkb-data
I've tried through Logithèque which seems to install it (no error message)
but still
As Trusty Tahr is a LTS edition, it should include the bug resolution so
that it won't last for years.
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it would be nice to have a bug we can use for the SRU, not sure if that
one is appropriate since it's years old and close. Otherwise agreed that
we should fix that issue in trusty
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Sebastien Bacher a écrit ce qui suit, le 23/07/14 12:10 :
it would be nice to have a bug we can use for the SRU, not sure if that
one is appropriate since it's years old and close. Otherwise agreed that
we should fix that issue in trusty
In the Debian sid package xkb-data 2.12-1, the bug *is*
Hi,
Any chance to see this bug fixed in Trusty too?
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Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard
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I don't believe this thread... Really, this is just unbelivable!
Nicolas, I don't know you, but you should seriously try to work on
yourself and learn to accept when you're wrong.
For the virtual poll here, I say : PUT BACK THE CRTL-R KEY.
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Please give us our Right Ctrl key back. Forcing everyone to make his own
.Xmodmap to bypass the bug *is* the disproportionnate thing IMO.
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I discovered that bug with Ubuntu 14.04. Seriously what's the hell!
Sorry to be rude but Nicolas you seriously fucked up here and raised an
hungry mob.
I'm a full time developper and I just cannot think about writing code
without CTRL_R. It make me feel so hungry when I discovered that bug and
is there generic popular Linux-oriented site in France? Like
slashdot.org or smth...
LinuxFr.org
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is there generic popular Linux-oriented site in France? Like
slashdot.org or smth...
LinuxFr.org
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Bonjour, moi aussi je préfère que ma touche rctrl (Control R) se
comporte comme une touche Control, et non comme level5_machin_chose.
Merci d'avance,
alex
Hello, so would I rather my rctrl key to behave as a control key.
Thanks,
alex
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By the way, with this modification, the drawing around line 120
in/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr is wrong because it shows a keyboard
with a Ctrl key on the right, not a Level5 thing...
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Give us back - please - the right control key acting the same as left
control key.
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=1563071
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I really do not understand why this key is disabled. If it is there, it
is certainly not to make the keyboard look pretty.
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Yes, please give it back !
Moreover I got two Super keys (with windows logo), why my right Super is also
broken ? Is it the same problem as Ctrl ?
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Rendez-vous la touche Ctrl-Droite, souiplait :-/
PLEASE GIVE US OUR RIGHT [CTRL] KEY BEHAVING AS A [CTRL] KEY BACK !!!
It is especially important for left-handed people.
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Hello,
I am french, I use the Français (variante) keymap because I like how the keys
are arranged (², ³, œ, etc).
I also am left-handed and use Ctrl-Up and Ctrl-Down to switch desktops. I do so
by using RCtrl + arrows, keeping my left hand on the mouse.
Now, on Ubuntu 14.04, I am also
I would also like to add that Ctrl-PgUp and Ctrl-PgDown, to change tabs
in tabbed apps (GNOME Terminal or Firefox, for example), now need a
manipulation involving both hands.
This is clearly a big regression, at least for left-handed people,
probably for right-handed people too...
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Just upgraded to Trusty and found about this not working Right-
Ctrl-gate. What a PITA.
My work-around for now : select Français (variante obsolète)
Regards,
Patrick.
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This bug is still present in package xkb-data 2.10.1ubuntu1 (trusty):
include level5(rctrl_switch)
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This bug was fixed in the package xkeyboard-config - 2.5-1ubuntu6
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* Disable patch 109. The fix causes behavioral changes for right
control. Needs to be fixed differently; discussion ongoing upstream.
(LP: #1013881)
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The fix for this cannot progress to precise-updates until it is fixed in
quantal. Can somebody please confirm that the bug is fixed in quantal?
Preferrably by marking the bug status as 'Fix Released'.
** Also affects: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Precise)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
This particular bug pertains to the /reverting/ of a patch that was
included in a previous SRU upload that was not yet promoted to -updates.
So solving this in quantal should not be a blocker for promoting this
SRU.
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* Add 113_ossmath_is_five_levels.patch: Some keymaps like fr(oss) fail to
load because they include ossmath (via keypad(oss)) which
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@Emmanual: the reason we rolled back rather than include that nl-n 1
liner change is that we want to see the other fixes out and it's still
not clear that the change is the correct one and wouldn't create issues
and lead to another SRU verification fail.
Do you know the drawbacks we would have
I've analysed the use of nbsp(levelX) in all the keyboards defined in
/usr/share/X11/xkb
Keyboards defining nbsp on level 3:
./symbols/tr:include nbsp(level3)
./symbols/fi:include nbsp(level3)
./symbols/lt:include nbsp(level3)
./symbols/fr:include nbsp(level3) // French
Hello Emmanuel, or anyone else affected,
Accepted xkeyboard-config into precise-proposed. The package will build
now and be available at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-
config/2.5-1ubuntu1.3 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed
repository.
Please help us by testing this new
Unfortunately, the test failed:
– Right Ctrl works = OK
– Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works = KO
– Nbsp is available (on level 4) = OK
I think it w
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Unfortunately, the test failed:
– Right Ctrl works = OK
– Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works = KO
– Nbsp is available (on level 4) = OK
I think I was not clear in comment #24. The comment #22 of Sebastien Bacher is
clearer.
The line 128 of symbol/fr
include nbsp(level4nl)
must be replaced by
Emmanuel, the intent of this latest upload is to roll back *all* changes
to the space handling, so that the SRU can proceed with the other
unrelated fixes rather than being blocked by a perfect solution to this
one.
From that perspective, my understanding is that the change that's
applied here
Ok
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** Tags added: verification-done
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Since 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, I guess this bug
will become very popular...
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the SRU.
When you say upstream, do you mean the FreeDesktop bug?
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Yes, I am left handed! So what?
Nothing specific, you took that the wrong way, as said I was trying to
have a feeling of what percentage of the users it concerns and what is
their usecase, I didn't say it was fine to bug anyone, but understand
that any of the suggested solution so far do bother
note also that the bug is easy to work around, you can change for
another french layout than the french (variante) one in the system
settings
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Bryce,
2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in precise-updates now, since the SRU
request was accepted and processed.
No, it isn't. The 2.5-1ubuntu1.2 SRU was accepted (incorrectly) into
precise-proposed before 2.5-1ubuntu1.1 was promoted to precise-updates.
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I've just tested the patch from Sebastian, i.e. removing the «include
level5(rctrl_switch)» from the current precise-proposed package. The
behavior is Ok for me:
– Right Ctrl works
– Rhythmbox Ctrl-Space works
– Nbsp is available (on level 4).
Now, what is the procedure to cook the patch of the
Steve, ah, weird, I assumed the previous version was supposed to get
pushed to -updates before a new sru would go in.
In that case, then yes I can just discard the earlier fix. I've done so
and re-uploaded 2.5-1ubuntu1.3 with that reverted out.
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@Emmanual: we will get an update with the other pending fixes out while
the question of the space,ctrl issue is sorted, we will address that one
in another update
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team)
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Hey Bryce, could you look at that bug?
I can't confirm the issue there using a fr oss layout on my french
precise but maybe it depends of special configs or interactions
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Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Bryce
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As stated previously (#9), the problem only appears when activating the
'precise-proposed' package source. However, if it is not solved now, the
problem will appear for every user using the French Oss keyboard (that is
most of French users).
2012/6/25 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com
Hey
Emmanual: reading the upstream bug we have the choice between
- having space input broken in media players (i.e rhythmbox)
- having rctrl broken
- having a layout that leads to wrongly input nbsp chars
neiher of those look to good and I'm not sure what's the best solution,
I will need to check
Yes, I am left handed! So what?
Having RCtrl broken is against the tradition of computer keyboards. It is
against the philosophy of Ubuntu: computer for people – including left
handed, those who are born with two hands, and those who have to type only
with one.
Letting a bug in Rhythmbox is not
The change is from patch 109_fr_oss_space_char.patch which was brought
in with version 2.5-1ubuntu1.1. Changing the behavior of the right
control key was intentional, as requested by reporters in bug #221112 to
fix a bad problem that occurs when using Rhythmbox.
2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is included in
High - A problem with an essential hardware component (Keyboard)
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = High
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Do you need help from me to solve the problem?
Cordially
Emmanuel Castro
2012/6/24 Dave Gilbert ubu...@treblig.org
High - A problem with an essential hardware component (Keyboard)
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu)
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Thanks to Emmanuel Castro for the workaround (forcing a previous version).
The choice w
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Sorry, pushed some wrong key.
[The choice…] was between 2.5-1ubuntu1 (precise) and 2.5-1ubuntu2
(precise-proposed). On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuUpdates,
I read: « Enabling the proposed updates repository can break your
system. It is not recommended for inexperienced users. » I
Thank you for the information.
I am puzzled by the way how the bug FreeDesktop bug 15804 was handled!
The correct way to solve the RhythmBox bug was to remove the line
include nbsp(level4nl)
not patching the keyboard with the ugly
include level5(rctrl_switch)
Ok, we are loosing the
And what if instead of level 4, we put non-breaking space to level 3. I
find it is more convenient (and I think I am not alone).
So, instead of:
include nbsp(level4nl)
we put non-breaking space to level 3:
include nbsp(level3n)
This gives us back the Right-Ctrl. It does not break
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
** Changed in: xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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With Belgian OSS, I have the same Ctrl-R changed into Level5 as Emmanuel
Castro (his attached image 2012-06-16).
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It is probably because the config file for Belgian OSS include French OSS.
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alexeyten/xkeyboard-config/master/view/1477/symbols/be
line 69
Par ailleurs, pour revenir à un clavier qui marche :
– lancez Synaptics (installez le si besoin),
– sélectionnez le paquet
It seems to be linked to this modification in wkeyboard-config
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~alexeyten/xkeyboard-config/master/revision/1477#symbols/fr
It don't know what it tries to solve, but actually it creates more pain.
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The right CTRL key is wrongly assigned to Level5 (see the attached
picture).
** Attachment added: The right CTRL key is wrongly assigned to Level5
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