Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!

[Simon Nume]

Mulindwa 

You should at least learn to spell correctly the swear words you use.

Interestingly I KNOW ( and probably Kasangwawo) where he got the money from to go to private school and Cambridge after both his parents were dead.

Just because YOU dont know is not my problem.

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Simon Nume

Where did Mutebi get that money from. Address the issues instead of sending firkin snipes. Yes he had the money but what we are discussing here is where was it coming from? Did you Simon Nume or Kasangwawo ever send money to Mutebi for his studies? How dare you claim how he had the money to study in Cambridge but you can not acknowledge the source? That is where the failure of Buganda is. 


And I swear we will live to death but every single leader will be bad to Buganda for we as a tribe are just too fucked up.

Em
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Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!

Jonah

Has Mulindwa ever met anyone privately educated in the UK ?
Someone should tellhim that ANYONE who can afford to go to a private schooland on to Cambridge has to have enough money and connections NOT to be a pipe fitter.

Numejonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see that you intentionally fail to mention that Kabaka Mutebi studied law at Cambridge and that he wrote for reknowned publications such as 'The economist' !You don't sound like you've seen the inside of a lecture room, so you might not know this. But students do all sorts of jobs during their holidays. For example Prince William of England has worked on construction in S. America and so has his brother Harry in S. Africa. I don't see you calling them builders.Ssabasajja did not go to UK to become a pipe fitter. I'm challenging you to produce the evidence that he did. So many times you have failed to provide proof after making such wild allegations.KasangwawoFrom: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.netTo: CC:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:27 -0400MOSsabasajja is a well qualified pipe fitter, he did the course in UK.Buganda's politics is so silly that it runs under the blanket of secrecy that many of these facts are not mentioned any where, and the Kasangwawo's only preach Obote is bad, and who ever does not agree with Buganda stand as a Rwandese, but facts always remain facts. Mutebi is a pipe fitter and I challenge any one to tell other wise, and I will post where he qualified.If I post it I know it is true and verifiable.EmToronto The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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Re: [Ugnet] Bigombe, Kony in Phone Contact

[Simon Nume]

This is absolute nonsense.Matek Opoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bigombe, Kony in Phone Contact














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The Monitor (Kampala)
April 27, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 
Oketch BitekGulu 
The chief peace negotiator, Ms Betty Bigombe, has asked the leader of the Lord's Resistance Army, Joseph Kony, to instruct his field commanders to stop committing atrocities in northern Uganda.
Bigombe spoke to Kony by telephone yesterday and advised him to order his men to stop attacking the civilian population and the government forces in the interest of peace.











 
She disclosed her telephone conversation with Kony during a two-day peace workshop at North View Hotel in Gulu town yesterday.
Members of the Acholi Religious Leaders Peace Initiative (ARLPI) attended the workshop.
Bigombe told the religious leaders that she speaks to Kony frequently as part of her peace efforts to bring the two warring parties to negotiate the end of the northern conflict.
"I requested Kony on phone this morning (Tuesday) to order his commanders to stop killings, abductions and committing other atrocities on the communities if people are to take him seriously about the peace process," she said.
Bigombe said there was hope for another round of peace talks between thel LRA rebels and the government.
"There is hope for another peace meeting with the rebel leaders soon." she said. Bigombe told the religious leaders that the government had accepted to grant the LRA rebels another ceasefire for a negotiated end of the war in the region.
"The government has accepted to declare another ceasefire for peace talks to resume as long as the rebel leadership is serious," she said.
She advised religious leaders to always seek audience with the UPDF leadership and express their feelings freely on the peace process.
Bigombe told religious leaders that there is fear among the LRA returnees due to too much finger pointing by the communities around them. She cited schools and markets where the returnees find it difficult to socialise freely.
She regretted that this trend could result into another war in Acholi if religious leaders do not sensitise the people.
She also called on the religious leaders to make trips to villages and preach forgiveness and reconciliation.
Bigombe said the children at times tell her that they are suffering more at home yet they should be looked after by the communities they live in.
"These children (returnees) tell me that they had plenty of food in the bush but at home they lack money for buying soap, medicine and milk for their kids."











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Bishop Nelson Onono Onweng, Fr. Julius Orach, Sheik Al-Haji Khelil and Monsignor Mathew Odong attended the workshop.
LRA conflict war has lasted for 18 years leaving many dead and others displaced.
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RE: [Ugnet] Buganda: We Are Ready to Forgive Obote But...

[Okuto del Coli]

 
Correct, Bulange!
 
This is the proper objective approach: the one does not rule out the other. Legal processions against Obote or any other Uganda should be supported by solid vindictive evidences unlike “Governmente rac; LRA bene rac” mato Ofut ritual prevalent in the Northern peace resolution (rd. twisted amnesty) that does not include the rights of the directly offended individual to process his / her case.
 
Two decades has elapsed and no one victim of Vampire mutilation has filed legal procession despite the fact that the reign during which those barbaric mutilation, molestation, decimation of social / community infrastructure, rape etc., is prevalent!! Spontaneously, I would think just that factor is conducive to legal processes of the sort (it eases access to the culprits).
 
 Perhaps the RWODI and their legal experts for the voiceless are waiting for the “usual” Ugandan solution: coup detach” (when both the perpetrator and the victim have long ceased to exist!)? Twisted stance for the Voiceless , isn’t it?!
 
Rgds
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April 18, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 
Barbara AmongNairobi 
Buganda Kingdom officials said last week that they were ready to forgive exiled former president Milton Obote for atrocities committed against the kingdom if he apologised formally.
The officials told The EastAfrican that they were ready to forgive Obote if he formally apologised to the kingdom and to Kabaka, Ronald Muwenda Mutebi, whose father he overthrew in the 1966 coup and forced into exile. Kabaka Mutebi's father died in exile.












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"We cannot go on accusing and counter-accusing each other. If Obote apologised to the people of Buganda, the kingdom and Ugandans, we can forgive him. He did positive things and there are those who see the positive contribution he made," said Charles Mayiga, spokesperson of the Buganda kingdom.
The Buganda officials, however, said that they could not rule out Obote being sued by individuals for crimes such as ordering the storming of the Kabaka's Mengo palace and the ensuing destruction of property during his two reigns as the president of Uganda, between 1966-1971 and 1981-1985.
Mr Mayiga said that Buganda as an institution could be witness but there were also individuals within the kingdom who could testify if the government decided to prosecute Obote.
"We can only speak collectively as a kingdom, but the government through the Director of Public Prosecution will verify those witnesses," he said.
"He is a Ugandan and can come back, but he must be answerable for the atrocities he committed like killings in Luwero. I will be surprised if nobody takes him to court," said Tim Lwanga, chairman the Buganda Parliamentary Caucus and also Minister for Ethics and Integrity.
Obote's Uganda People's Congress (UPC) had announced that their 80-year-old exiled leader, now living in Zambia, would be coming back to Uganda on May 27, ending 20 years of exile. However, they withdrew the plan following the government's stand that he should face trial for killings committed during his second presidency.
Obote's son, Jimmy Akena (37), who has been living in exile with his father, returned home last week to a rousing welcome from party faithful. He declined to comment on the possible return of his father, but said he was happy to be back home after 20 years in exile.
But while the kingdom spokesperson says Buganda appears ready to forgive Obote, there is a strong possibility that some people may bring charges against him for crimes committed by his government.
President Yoweri Museveni government says Obote's soldiers killed up to 300,000 civilians as they battled the National Resistance Army rebels led by Museveni.
"It is not a matter of deterring him from coming back to his country, but he must be answerable for all those atrocities committed during his rule," said Information Minister Dr Nsaba Buturo, citing the killings in the Luwero triangle in the early 1980s.
He added that, according to the 1995 constitution, all prosecution is in the hands of Director of Public Prosecution. "The amnesty law passed in December 1999 covers only terrorists who were waging war against the state but not past leaders. Therefore, Obote's role in the massacres of Luwero has to be handled before the issue of his return," added Dr Buturo.
However, UPC officials have questioned why for the past 19 years President Museveni and his government did not find it necessary to institute legal 

RE: [Ugnet] 6,500 Girls in Kony Captivity - Report

[Okuto del Coli]

 HOW CAN THE RWODI AND WHATEVER INVOLVED FRATERNITY ALREADY BE TALKING ABOUT FORGIVENESS WHEN SO MANY OF OUR SISTERS ARE STILL CAPTIVES / SLAVES?!
 
This is extra-logical to some of us whose constitutuency is the voiceless too.
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6,500 Girls in Kony Captivity - Report












 

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The Monitor (Kampala)
April 27, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 
Frank Nyakairu  AgenciesKampala 
About 6,500 girls some as young as eight years are in captivity of the Lords Resistance Army, a children's charity organisation, Save the Children, has said.
But the Army Spokesman, Maj. Shaban Bantariza, doubted the figures. The 38-page report released on Monday also said girls comprise 33 percent of LRA total strength.











 
"In Uganda, there are an estimated 6,500 girl soldiers captured in the rebel Lords Resistance Army," the report said.
The global report, Forgotten Casualties of War, highlights the plight of the girls, some as young as eight, who have been left without help after surviving the horrifying experience of war.
Research has shown girls are used extensively in combat in a wide range of international conflicts, in some cases by groups who have had the support of Britain and the United States.
Mike Aaronson, the director general of the organisation, said, "When people picture conflict they think of men in bloody combat, but it's girls who are the horrifying and hidden face of war.
"Most girls, who escape or leave an armed group do so on their own because formal programmes have not been designed with them," he said.
Bantariza said the figures in the report were not scientific. "Nobody in the world, apart from Jesus, knows how many girls are in the LRA," Bantariza said on Monday by telephone.
"They (Save The Children) are incapable of estimating any figures of the LRA," he said. Army records show declining figures of children and fighters rescued or captured since 2003. In 2003, a total of 5,345 were rescued, captured or they surrendered, while in 2004 the figure stood at 4,436 and from January 1 to March 7 the figure was 294.
"Those are declining figures which show that those who could be rescued have greatly reduced remaining with hardcore criminals," Bantariza said.











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The authors of the report were not immediately available to defend their figures.
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[Ugnet] Meanwhile in Another development Akech is implicated in MP's Arrest

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Akech Implicated in MPs' Arrest














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April 26, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 
Joyce NamutebiKampala 
SECURITY minister Betty Akech is responsible for the arrest of the two MPs charged with murder, Forum for Democratic Change (FDC) vice-chairman Prof. Morris Ogenga Latigo has said.
FDC has lined about 20 lawyers to defend Reagan Okumu (Aswa) and Michael Ocula (Kilak) who are in Luzira Prison, FDC spokesperson Wafula Oguttu told the party's weekly press briefing at Najjanankumbi yesterday.











 
Oguttu said some lawyers had volunteered to defend the MPs while others had been hired. They include Wandera Ogalo, Sam Njuba, Peter Walubiri, and Opar Donge.
Latigo (Agago) said, "I hold Honourable Betty Akech 100% responsible. I challenge her to prove that she is not."
Akech could not be reached for a comment yesterday. She was reportedly in a meeting in Lira.
Latigo said, "Akech is the minister for security. She said investigations were going on. She is aware," he said.
He said the charge against the two MPs were fictitious, concocted by the Government and indefensible.











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Latigo feared that he might also be arrested.
FDC leaders disputed reports that former ESO chief David Pulkol was quitting FDC.
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[Ugnet] ..and still in Africa Burundi: Former Rebel Group Suspends Participation in Cabinet

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Burundi: Former Rebel Group Suspends Participation in Cabinet














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April 26, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 
Bujumbura 
A former major rebel group in Burundi announced on Monday that it was freezing relations with President Domitien Ndayizeye and that its ministers would no longer attend cabinet meetings.
The spokesman for the Conseil national pour la defense de la democratie-Forces pour la defense de la democratie (CNDD-FDD), Ramadhan Karenga, said the reason for the decision was that Ndayizeye was "unreliable".
He said the main issue was that Ndayizeye had refused to endorse CNDD-FDD's candidate for the Interior Ministry following the death, in March, of the minister, Simon Nyandwi, who was a CNDD-FDD member.
Ndayizeye has said he had asked the former rebel group, now a political party, to propose three candidates from whom he would choose one. The party only proposed one candidate.
Karenga said CNDD-FDD ministers would not attend further cabinet meetings until the dispute was settled. He said the party had requested that the facilitator of the Burundi peace process, South African Deputy President Jacob Zuma, intervene in the crisis.
However, Karenga said CNDD-FDD ministers would continue to do their work and that the party would participate in other government institutions.
Earlier in April, the CNDD-FDD leader, Peter Nkurunziza, had threatened to pull out of the transitional government and to tell CNDD-FDD militants to return to armed conflict.
Nkurunziza made the threat when authorities in the northwestern province of Kayanza closed the stadium to him. He was in the province on an official visit as minister for good governance.
"It was a way of preventing him from working," Karenga said.











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Last week Ndayizeye also visited Kayanza and, according to news reports, CNDD-FDD militants threatened local residents so that few dared come out to see him.
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[Ugnet] Bugoma Forest Burnt Down By Herdsmen...

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Bugoma Forest Burnt Down By Herdsmen














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New Vision (Kampala)
April 25, 2005 Posted to the web April 25, 2005 
William RwebemberaKampala 
The dry spell, which hit in December 2004, has drastically affected Bugoma forest, one of Uganda's large forests.
Hundreds of herdsmen fled their homes in search of water and pasture and took refuge in Bugoma.








A number of hills were burnt down. The streams flowing through the forest are toxic because of the chemicals used in spraying the cattle.
These herdsmen violated the quarantine, the district imposed in Hoima district since September 2004 against the movement of cattle, after the outbreak of foot and mouth disease. Most of them moved from Kiboga and entered the forest through Buhimba, Kiziranfumbi and Kabwoya sub-counties.
The National Forest Authority (NFA) officials were not aware of these intruders until a rumour spread that residents had seen rebels in the forest.
"They have been there for over two months, without our knowledge. I was surprised to be implicated by security that I was training rebels in Bugoma. When the security people carried out an operation in the forest, there was no trace of rebels, but only herdsmen," said Reuben Arinaitwe, an NFA officer, in charge of Bugoma and Budongo forests.
"There have 40,000 cattle and they have burnt down a large portion of Bugoma to get young grass for their cattle."
There may not be any rebels in this forest, although some residents insist they have seen some people clad in army uniform patrolling the forest.
"Some of the herdsmen were brought at night, escorted by armed people in army uniform. Even today, we see some of them with these cattle keepers grazing in the forest. I cannot tell if they are rebels or not," said a resident of Nsozi trading centre in Kabwoya sub-county.
Arinaitwe said some of the cattle were brought from Kiboga, Kibaale and others from Bundibugyo, especially those who were evicted from Semliki National Park. And some residents say other cattle keepers say they came from Mbarara.
Recently, a team comprising Hoima District commissioner Martha Asiimwe, the District Internal Security Officer, Robert Nyakairu and officials from NFA gave the Bahuma four days to leave the forest. however, many of them said they had nowhere to go.











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"They may not leave because the issue of the intruders has become political. We tried to force them out, but because of political intervention, the exercise was halted. Some of the cattle belong to government officials," said an NFA officer.
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[Ugnet] UPC to Create 13 Posts for Women, Youths And Disabled

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UPC to Create 13 Posts for Women, Youths And Disabled














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April 25, 2005 Posted to the web April 25, 2005 
Geresom MusamaliKampala 
THE Uganda People's congress (UPC) national consultative conference on Saturday resolved to create more party posts for women, youth and the disabled, to attract them into the party.
The conference directed the Constitutional steering Committee, the party's interim executive, to create 13 bureaux at the headquarters and appoint suitable party faithfuls, mainly young men and women, to the posts. Those appointed to the posts will be salaried party civil servants.











 
The bureaux are for youth, women, agriculture, education and health. Others are information and publicity, foreign affairs and finance.
The Milton Obote foundation funds UPC but sources said party officials were soliciting local and foreign assistance to run the programmes.











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Other posts will be created at district, constituency and branch levels but will mainly be elective.
There has been speculation that party president Milton Obote's son, Jimmy Akena, will occupy one of the posts. Akena, however, was quiet through the proceedings of the conference, attended by 500 delegates.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___
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[Ugnet] Museveni's Notorious group, the GESTAPO also known as Kalangala Action Plan to meet..

[Matek Opoko]

Political observers believe that the GESTAPO like organization is cooking up yet another plan to perpetuate Yoweri Museveni's NRM 20 year rule over Ugandans. Now we hear even the so called Ministers and members of Museveni's Parliament have been cooped into the Organization. Other political observers are of the view that this so called revitalization of Kalagala Action Plan, is nothing other then another futile attempt on the part of the now discredited NRM to survive. ..More like a drowning man holding on to a strew!!

Matek

KAP Ministers, MPs Meet Friday














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The Monitor (Kampala)
April 27, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 
Richard MutumbaParliament 
Kalangala Action Plan (KAP) will convene a meeting of all the newly signed up MPs and ministers on Friday.
The main aim of the meeting, to take place at the Parliamentary Main Hall, is to streamline membership procedures.








The Coordinator and Chairman of the KAP Parliamentary wing recruitment drive, Mr Sitenda Sebalu, (Kyadondo East) said close to 180 MPs had joined KAP.
He said KAP would not be used as a campaigning and funding agency for MPs during elections slated for early 2006.
Sebalu said the recruitment drive was aimed at cleaning the Movement of pretenders.
The acting chairman of the Parliamentary Movement caucus, Mr Moses Kizige, said the MPs' recruitment into KAP was to give the agency a new and better image.
He said the national coordinator, Maj. Kakooza Mutale, would remain a founder member in the new organisation.
KAP, which recently launched a massive recruitment drive among Members of Parliament and Ministers, has registered 180 members in Parliament.
The group wants MPs to register as a strategy to bolster its image ahead of next year's general elections.
The recruitment was spearheaded by Sebalu.
KAP targets a membership of at least 250 MPs.
The Chief Mobiliser of the Forum for Democratic Change, Maj. Gen. Mugisha Muntu, said MPs were joining KAP because they feared losing support from NRM in the 2006 elections.











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Muntu advised the people not to penalise their MPs who have joined KAP.
"Voters should forgive their MPs because they have been threatened that if they don't join KAP, the government would identify political opponents to challenge them during the 2006 elections ," Muntu said.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___
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Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!

[jonah kasangwawo]

Mulindwa,
I asked you for the evidence. Where is it ? Stop the nonsense and provide 
the evidence.
Kabaka Mutebi's family had money even before Obote learned to wear clothes.

Kasangwawo

Edward Mulindwa
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:26:48 -0700
Simon Nume
Where did Mutebi get that money from. Address the issues instead of sending 
firkin snipes. Yes he had the money but what we are discussing here is 
where was it coming from? Did you Simon Nume or Kasangwawo ever send money 
to Mutebi for his studies? How dare you claim how he had the money to 
study in Cambridge but you can not acknowledge the source? That is where 
the failure of Buganda is.

And I swear we will live to death but every single leader will be bad to 
Buganda for we as a tribe are just too fucked up.

Em
Toronto
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With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, 
l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie

From: Simon Nume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: ugandanet@kym.net
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:50:04 -0700 (PDT)
Jonah
Has Mulindwa ever met anyone privately educated in the UK ?
Someone should tell him that ANYONE who can afford to go to a private 
school and on to Cambridge has to have enough money and connections NOT to 
be a pipe fitter.

Nume
jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see that you intentionally fail to mention that Kabaka Mutebi studied law
at Cambridge and that he wrote for reknowned publications such as 'The
economist' !
You don't sound like you've seen the inside of a lecture room, so you might
not know this. But students do all sorts of jobs during their holidays. For
example Prince William of England has worked on construction in S. America
and so has his brother Harry in S. Africa. I don't see you calling them
builders.
Ssabasajja did not go to UK to become a pipe fitter. I'm challenging you to
produce the evidence that he did. So many times you have failed to provide
proof after making such wild allegations.
Kasangwawo
From: Edward Mulindwa
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KNOW!
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:27 -0400

MO

Ssabasajja is a well qualified pipe fitter, he did the course in UK.

Buganda's politics is so silly that it runs under the blanket of secrecy
that many of these facts are not mentioned any where, and the 
Kasangwawo's
only preach Obote is bad, and who ever does not agree with Buganda stand 
as
a Rwandese, but facts always remain facts. Mutebi is a pipe fitter and I
challenge any one to tell other wise, and I will post where he qualified.

If I post it I know it is true and verifiable.

Em
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie

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 revoke that order from the bank of Uganda books. Obote left power the
 second
 time and the family remained taking the money from Uganda government.
 It is
 that same money, why people like Kabaka Mutebi managed to go to school
 in UK
 and become pipe fitters.
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[Ugnet] Acholi Leaders Scapegoats for Failure to End Northern War

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Acholi Leaders Scapegoats for Failure to End Northern War














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OPINIONApril 25, 2005 Posted to the web April 25, 2005 
Norbert Mao
It is said that a man can fail many times, but he is not a failure until he begins to blame someone else. For the years that the civil war has raged in the north of our country, Museveni has never had a shortage of who or what to blame for his inability to deliver the people of northern Uganda from the scourge of war. He has blamed everybody except himself, yet he holds the position of the greatest power and responsibility in this country. In fact Museveni has been at this game of finger pointing for so long that it is about time he set up a Ministry of Excuses headed by himself.
He blamed the terrain - the long grass, wooded savannah and heavy rain. But the terrain affects all the parties to the war equally and mastery of the terrain is achievable through consistent efforts. He then blamed the geopolitical fact of Sudan providing a sanctuary to the rebels. Then the Sudan dealt a death blow to this excuse, allowing Operation Iron Fist to be launched inside their territory. Yet the ill conceived, poorly planned and incompetently executed Operation Iron Fist did not yield peace.











 
Museveni then turned on the general populace accusing them of collaborating with the people. He forced over eighty percent of the Acholi population into the so called protected camps. As with everything he does, there's always the real reason and the reason that sounds good. In this case, the reason that sounded good was that the camps were created for the protection of the people.
In reality, the camps were created so that the people could be controlled and to make them more dependent on the government. The movement of the people was restricted and their ties to their land and cultivated fields were cut off.
The army set on fire crops in a scorched earth strategy intended to deny the rebels the ability to feed off the land. The painful strategy of concentrating people in camps was to last a short time but eight years on, there's no end in sight and the rebels have launched audacious raids on the camps, killing and abducting people right under the very noses of government troops.
Then Museveni turned his guns on the Acholi in the Diaspora who he accused of sending funds to the rebels. But since the first Kacokke Madit in 1997, evidence shows that if anything the Acholi Diaspora has instead leveraged their considerable means to educate their relatives, build houses and invest in ventures such as hospitals and hotels. If these financial muscles were being flexed in favour of the rebels, the evidence would be hard to hide. The investments that the Acholi in Diaspora have made in their motherland show that they are conscious of their stake in its future. True, there may be a few who sympathise with the LRA and an even smaller number who contribute money such as loading air time on the rebel movement's satellite phones, but blanket accusations against the Acholi in Diaspora are clearly baseless.
The President then blamed the unending war on the laxity of the troops who have failed to offer adequate protection to the people.
Then he turned on the Acholi leaders generally, castigating them for advocating a peaceful approach which he misrepresented as equivalent to condoning impunity and collaborating with the LRA. After a short while he changed his hard line stance and appointed a peace team to explore ways of peacefully resolving the conflict. He even announced a limited ceasefire to facilitate the process.
In his New Year's address, the President thanked Lango and Teso leaders but still heaped blame on "some Acholi leaders" for the continuation of the rebellion.
As the December 2003 New Vision readers' survey revealed, the war in the north is the foremost national shame - the biggest wart on Museveni's face.
It is not accidental that Museveni has turned his guns on Acholi leaders.
Museveni's bush tactics, according to NRA child soldier, China Keitetsi, was to demonise the Acholi to the extent that the entire UNLA was presented as "Abacholi" to the largely Bantu NRA and Luwero populace.
In his address to Parliament in 2001, Museveni said that "the chauvinism of the Acholi had to be destroyed". This address can be found in the official records of the proceedings of parliament.
To the best of my knowledge, no Acholi leader has control over the levers of Kony's war machine. However, it may be politically expedient for Museveni to maintain a smear campaign that links those politically opposed to him to the LRA rebellion.
Museveni needs to be told again and again that he is fighting an unnecessary war and even if he wins, that will not change the fact that it was an unnecessary war.
Even the religious leaders have not been spared Museveni's smear campaign. All their efforts to point out misdeeds on the part 

[Ugnet] UN Peacekeeping Mission in Eastern DR of Congo Aids National Army

[Matek Opoko]

UN Peacekeeping Mission in Eastern DR of Congo Aids National Army














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April 25, 2005 Posted to the web April 26, 2005 

Troops from the United Nations peacekeeping mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) have gone to the aid of the national army which had come under attack from a militia in the country's north-east Ituri district, a UN spokesman said today.
"The peacekeepers were informed on Sunday that the national army troops were under attack by militia members in Kagaba, and the militia included women and children," spokesman Stephane Dujarric said at the daily briefing in New York.











 
Peacekeepers from the contingents of Pakistan, Nepal, Morocco and Bangladesh, along with two attack helicopters, were taking part in the operation to ensure that the DRC national army controlled the area, he said. The mission is known by its French acronym, MONUC.
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[Ugnet] Re: [Mwananchi] UN Peacekeeping Mission in Eastern DR of Congo Aids National Army

[Matek Opoko]

Africans :
How can Women ( old and young I presume) and Children be part of a Militia Organization?
Could it be that the so called MONUC in DRC is simply making up this story , in asinister move to Murder Africans with Helicopter Machine Gun Fire ..and later claim that they haveKilled"Militia Rebels" most of whom are women and children!!! No logical sense here!!

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Troops from the United Nations peacekeeping mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) have gone to the aid of the national army which had come under attack from a militia in the country's north-east Ituri district, a UN spokesman said today.
"The peacekeepers were informed on Sunday that the national army troops were under attack by militia members in Kagaba, and the militia included women and children," spokesman Stephane Dujarric said at the daily briefing in New York.











 
Peacekeepers from the contingents of Pakistan, Nepal, Morocco and Bangladesh, along with two attack helicopters, were taking part in the operation to ensure that the DRC national army controlled the area, he said. The mission is known by its French acronym, MONUC.


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[Ugnet] Burundi: Stop Fighting Us, Rebel Leader Tells Government

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April 27, 2005 Posted to the web April 27, 2005 
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Burundi's remaining rebel group, the Forces nationales de liberation (FNL) will end the war only when government troops stopped attacking its forces, rebel leader Agathon Rwasa said on Wednesday.
"We are committed to lasting peace in Burundi," he told a news conference in Tanzania's commercial city of Dar es Salaam. "But the government must also respect our position. If we are attacked we are going to hit back."
A Tanzanian government official, who requested anonymity, said Rwasa had met Tanzanian President Benjamin Mkapa and assured him of his personal commitment to seek peace. However, the official declined to say when the FNL-Burundi government peace talks would take place.
Earlier in April, FNL renewed its offer to enter into negotiations with the transitional government in Burundi following talks between an FNL delegation and Tanzanian officials in Dar es Salaam. The group also pledged to stop fighting as soon as negotiations began.
Although nations in Africa's Great Lakes region have agreed to label and treat the FNL as a terrorist organisation, Rwasa told reporters on Wednesday that FNL was a democratic movement that had been "forced by circumstances" to remain in the bush.
"Ours is not a gang of terrorists," he said. "We are going to come out of the bush once the environment is safe. We are there [in the bush] because government forces attack us."
He said he and other FNL leaders do not aspire to political office in Burundian general elections planned for later in 2005. He said all the movement was concerned with was lasting peace in Burundi.











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[Ugnet] Referendum must go on, says Museveni

[Matek Opoko]

So now Yosweri Muceben  is going to use whatever means possible, to ram through his so called Referendemu. Forget the fact that some of Mucebeni's very own MP are diametrically oppossed to Mucebeni's moves! Add to that, the son of Kaguta now does not believe in the very constititution which he helped draw and propagate which clearly stipulate and emphasis in no uncertain terms the independent role of Uganda's Members of Parliament and Mucebeni's office. In the End one can only conclude that Mucebeni son of kaguta has really lost it!!
Opoko Matek

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PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni
PRESIDENT Yoweri Museveni has blasted MPs opposed to the referendum on political systems and vowed to use all means to see that it is held as scheduled, report Amlan Tumusime and Fred Kayizzi. Speaking atop a UPDF jeep yesterday at Hoima Boma grounds, Museveni said, “I do not agree with MPs opposed to the referendum on political parties and as the president of this nation, I am going to make sure that the referendum is held because you are the owners of this country and its is you who should be consulted on this important issue,” Museveni said. On Friday, the government lost the referendum bill when it failed to realise the required number of MPs to support it. Museveni said MPs cannot decide how Ugandans should be governed, arguing that it was not democracy which the NRM government cherishes. Museveni also criticised the constitution describing it as poorly arranged. “We want a constitution which spells out clearly the role o
 f the
 President and Parliament,” Museveni said, adding, “We want cohesion in decision-making in the constitution that we are amending.” The President also attacked the sixth parliament saying it had greatly interfered with his work. He cited delay in the construction of the Bujagali Hydro Power dam, which he said was to be completed in seven months and it was now going to take seven months due to the MPs interference. He blamed the persistent power blackouts and high tariffs on the MPs. He paraded MPs from Bunyoro region describing them as strong supporters of the movement. Earlier, Museveni, jumped from the pavilion to stop security from shoving off a huge crowd of essanja clad supporters. Shouting in Kiswahili, he said, “Don’t disturb my people because they know what they want that’s why they have come to welcome me.” It was Museveni’s first official visit to the district since the 2001 elections. Museveni once again described the UPC as a
  dead
 party and said DP had had a stillbirth. He described the FDC as a small Fuso lorry driven by learners compared to the movement bus, which has an experienced driver. District chairman George Tinkamanyire Bagonza and Hoima mayor David Kaboyo urged Museveni to seek a third term, saying the People were behind him.
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[Ugnet] Parties Too Weak to Govern - Kigongo

[Matek Opoko]

Hi Dudu Mugongo!

What are you stupid or what? If the parties are weak even as you Claim, wasn't this weakness brought about because of the NRM strangulation of the parties for now close to 20 years.. Now you exhibit you Stupidity Mbhu the parties are too weak to Govern. Why does you , all knowing, all encampassing Movement ( to which all Ugandans belonged Until recent) empower the parties.. with let us say a significant financial contribution to help the patries organized themselves? why ...kuma Nyoko ! twalari Lugazigazi!!

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April 27, 2005 Posted to the web April 27, 2005 
Jim KalyesubulaKampala 
OPPOSITION parties are too disorganised to provide alternative leadership for Ugandans, the vice-chairman of the National Resistance movement (NRM) has said.
Moses Kigongo was on Friday addressing Movement leaders from Mawokota south constituency at Buwama Community Hall in Mpigi.








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Re: [Ugnet] Buganda: We Are Ready to Forgive Obote But... (In your dreams!)

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Mr. Opoko:

I don't know which Baganda Ms. Among is referring to. Forgive Obote? Not this Muganda. Never! I wrote a a letter to the Monitorto the same effect, butwhich letter they they seem to have declined to publish. I reproduce it and some exchange pertaining to it below for your edification.
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Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:31:34 -0700 (PDT) 
From: "Ssemakula" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [UNAANET] Obote apologists mistaken 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
CC: "Buganda Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are welcome Mr. Chadiha. Those were dark days indeed, ironically coming close on the heels of the Amin's more publicized brutality.
Of the Western nations, one deserves special mention for prolonging the suffering in Uganda. That country is Great Britain. The Thatcher government aided and abetted Obote's excesses, by adopting a foreign policy of "Hear No Evil, See No Evil" in Uganda.
The device they used to pull off their duplicity was simplicity itself. Each of their Embassies or High Commissions, as the case may be, is supposed to have a Labor Officer. One of the functions of that officer is to monitor abuses of human rights in the host country. 
What the UK did was to just never fill that post in Uganda for the duration of Obote's regime. Without that officer, there could not be any official reports of human rights abuses in Uganda. So, British officials could tell the world that (officially) it had no evidence of abuses of human rights in Uganda, even as the Red Cross, Amnesty International, Minority Rights Group, the US Department of State, the Intenational Commission of Jurists, Human Rights Watch, US Committee for Refugees and plethora of other organizations, and newspapers, all said the opposite.
Then, as now, Britain's single-mindedinterest in keeping a dictator in power was Obote's promise to allow Indians back in Uganda. Apparently Britain was (is) under the illusion that they would voluntarily return in the thousands. Also, Britain was selling all sorts of arms and military equipment to Obote's regime. For a few quid our blood was spilled wantonly. What is needed to fully expose British involvement in human rights abuses in Africa is an investigative reporter and a good informer, e.g. a former cabinet member to spill the beans. But then again, there are no Pultizer Prizes for journalism in the UK, or are there?
Many, if not most,of Africa's wars are fueled from the outside. Wealth is curse that Africa bears: be it in form of diamonds, oil, gold, etc etc Africans get killed for it whether in Darfur, Southern Sudan (think SPLA), Angola, DRC, Chad,W. Africa, etc Do you recall one of the reasons USA gives for not intervening in certain African oft-disastrous skirmishes? We have no "interests" ...
As you know, the current regime in Uganda doesn't pass muster either, e.g. see State of Pain: Torture in Uganda (http://hrw.org/reports/2004/uganda0404/) or go to http://hrw.org/doc?t=africac=ugandaor http://www-sul.stanford.edu/depts/ssrg/africa/hurights.htmletc
James Ssemakula
Jonathan Chadiha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mwami Ssemakula:Thanks for your enlightening information, at least to me. That was a very dark period for Uganda. After so many counter coups, I refused to read news from Uganda. I did not want to know what more bad news was going to come from there. That is when some Ugandans in the Diaspora, did not want to be identified as Ugandans. They claimed to be from anywhere else in Africa, but Uganda.Jonathan
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Obote Should Face Trial to Answer for His Crimes Against Humanity

Mr. (Ms?) Sanya’s recent letter, (Why Museveni is scared of Obote), reminded me that I, too, need to join my other red-blooded compatriots in the current Obote-gasm that has seemingly gripped the entire nation occasioned and unleashed by Mr. Mwendwa’s mini series on Obote.

Like Mr. Sanya, I am all for giving Mr. Obote a chance to clear his name. However, I’d rather he did it in a court of law. Heinous crimes against humanity, such as Obote is accused of, must never be allowed to go unpunished, no matter how long ago they were committed. As I understand it, there is no statute of limitation on murder.

Mr. Sanya resorts to sophistry and blatant lies to exonerate his murderous hero. For example he states blithely “Figures of the 1981 census put the entire population of Luwero at 150,000.” 

Well, as luck would have it, I happened upon a copy of “Report on the 1980 Population Census, Volume I, September 1982”, issued by the Census Office in the Ministry of Planning and Economic Development, Kampala. For Luwero District, it put the population size at 412,474 persons distributed as follows: 116,238 in Nakaseke County, 128,251 in Katikamu County, 94,019 in Wabusana County and 73,966 in Buruli County. So, what is the basis of Mr. Sanya’s claim that Luwero’s population was 150,000?

The horror of Luwero can be put in context easily enough. The population of that 

[Ugnet] Ugandans plant trees in potholes - BBC - 26/4/2005

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The scene on 8th street - close to the city centreThe state of some roads in Uganda's capital, Kampala, is so bad that protesters have planted banana trees in the middle of potholes. 
One campaigner says he saw a fish caught in one of the bigger potholes that had filled with water. 
Now a politician is leading a campaign to get the roads repaired and says this is becoming a major issue for his party ahead of elections next year. 
Conservative Party leader Ken Lukyamuzi says corruption is to blame. 
Tax 
He says money earmarked for the roads is not being spent, and when it is, the tarmac is too thin and disintegrates when it rains. 
"When you hear sums of money related to what is going to be done, you just laugh," says Mr Lukyamuzi, whose party is one of the smaller players in Ugandan politics. 
"These roads are done using the taxpayers' money," he says as he manoeuvres his car among the potholes. "People pay the taxes." 
Mr Lukyamuzi says that quite aside from the number of accidents the potholes cause, there is a good economic reason to fix them. 
"You cannot do anything constructive in terms of trade," he says. "A lot of food which feeds the people in Kampala comes from very long distances. So, you have to address the roads." 
He also laments the fact that the only way around them is to drive on the wrong side of the road. 
"I cannot, for example, abide by the rules of driving in Uganda, which is moving on the left side - I have to move onto the other side as if I was driving when I'm in the Democratic Republic of Congo, or France, or Rwanda. Can you imagine that? It is absurd." 





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[Ugnet] NEWS: Groveling before Museveni and the fix ...

[musamize]

Mr President, your help will be a great relief to me

SIR — I joined the NRA forces in July 1981 when I was already trained by the Uganda Army. I worked hard in our struggle and was one of the first commanders who recruited and trained NRA soldiers at Kijjaguzo and Bulamba primary schools in 1982.

Today many relatives and friends of fallen NRA soldiers are sad that they were not able to take the remains of their loved ones for a decent burial.

June 9 is commemorated as Heroes Day. However, many of us who fought and those who lost their loved ones have been forgotten to suffer the pangs of poverty.

On July 1, 1998, I met President Museveni at Kisozi, and we talked for more than four hours with Mrs Miria Kyambadde. The President asked us to go back to him after two weeks. I was promised a house for my family but up to now I am still renting.

I assure the President that I am still his staunch supporter and request him to remember his promise. It will be a great relief to me and others in the same category.

RA.0180 Sgt (Rtd) Stephen Sekyanzi 


New Vision: Wednesday, 27th April, 2005

My, oh my, for an adult man to have to grovel like this!

Institutional weakness is Africa’s trouble

SIR — Recently, Bob Geldof kicked up a political storm when he declared that President Yoweri Museveni’s time was up. Some of us supported him, or at least gave him the benefit of the doubt, while others questioned his knowledge and moral authority.

Seezi Cheeye, for example, pointed to Geldof’s private life — his wife left him for another man — and wondered how the pop star who had failed to keep his wife could now presume to tell Ugandans how to govern themselves. I believe a person’s private life may influence a person’s public life and even signal whether they can be trusted or not.

However, I do not believe that personal morality or private life is necessarily indicative of who can make a good leader.

The prominent American ethicist, Reinhold Niebuhr spelt this out in a famous book Moral Man and Immoral Society (New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1960).

Morality that may apply in the personal sphere may not apply in the public realm. He had in mind Christian personal morality. The conduct of public life depends on putting in place structures for delivering certain intended outcomes.

Politics in Africa did not fail because the people are immoral but due to institutional weakness. 

The Rev Amos Kasibante
Leicester, UK


Published on: Wednesday, 27th April, 2005

Bodaboda Candidate Petitions EC Over 'Illegal Registration'

New Vision (Kampala) 
April 27, 2005 

LAWRENCE kushemererwa, a bodaboda cyclist competing for the Mbarara municipality parliamentary seat, has petitioned the returning officer, William Kanyesigye, over the "on-going illegal registration of voters." 

Ebenezer Bifubyeka reports that at a press conference at the Voice of Toro office on Saturday, kushemererwa displayed a copy of over 300 names that he said had secretly been registered. 

In a letter dated April 22, Kushemererwa said a group of people claiming to be from the office of Mbarara mayor Wilson Tumwine were registering voters. 


"This registration was being directed by Hajji Bakawonga, a re-known supporter of candidate John Arimpa Kigyagi, who was travelling in the mayor's Land Cruiser UAF 514T," he said.

Ps: Did I mention that thefix is in?


Prisoners to Vote in 2006 Elections 

The Monitor (Kampala) 
April 27, 2005 

By Mercy Nalugo
Parliament 

If the government gets its way, prisoners will vote in the 2006 general elections. This would be the first time in the country's history that prisoners are allowed to vote. 

The Ministry of Justice and Constitutional Affairs has written to the Electoral Commission asking that Uganda's over 21,000 prisoners should be included on the updated voters' register ahead of the 2006 elections. 

The ministry argues that prisoners too have a right to vote and should be considered. The Minister of Internal Affairs, Dr Ruhakana Rugunda, announced the government proposal while appearing before the House committee on Defence. He said the Justice ministry contends that since voting is a constitutional right, every Ugandan should enjoy it. Rugunda was in Parliament to defend his ministry's budget estimates for the financial year 2005/2006. He said the details of conducting campaigns in prisons would be left to the Electoral Commission. 

More than 8,874,744 people have been registered to vote in 2006 compared to the 8,125,666 people who registered in 2001. 

This is the first time the prisoners are being considered as voters in the country's history. Electoral Commission officials told The Monitor yesterday that they had heard about the letter from the Ministry of Justice. "I have heard that the letter has come [from the ministry] but I have not seen it," EC Secretary Sam Rwakoojo said. 

He concurred with the ministry that prisoners have a constitutional right to vote. "There is no reason why they should 

[Ugnet] HEIST: New Dam to Cost Government $35 Billion (Is the Monitor on dope?)

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New Dam to Cost Government $35 Billion 

The Monitor (Kampala) 
April 27, 2005 

By Risdel Kasasira
Kampala 

The government of Uganda is planning to spend $35 billion on the construction of a new bridge on Nalubaale dam following reports that the bridge may collapse. The bridge at Nalubaale, which was constructed in 1952, has developed cracks. Engineers say the cracks are as a result of the reaction between the cement used at the time and the water. 

The Minister of Transport, Housing and Telecommunication, Mr John Nasasira who was on April 19 appearing before the Parliamentary Committee on Works, said $5 billion (14.3%) will be spent on the studies and $30 billion will be for constructing the bridge. Nasasira said the government is to acquire funds from different development partners like the World Bank, the International Monitory Fund (IMF) and African Development bank. 

The Chairperson of the Parliamentary Committee on Works and also Bukanga county Member of Parliament, Mr Nathan Byanyima, appealed to the government to ensure that the construction starts as soon as possible. Nasasira said surveys and studies would start this year.



If you have forgotten the AES fiasco in which they – with World Bank and IMF blessing -- proposed to build a hydro-electric dam costing almost US $3 MILLION per Megawatt of power generated, check this out and tell me if our robber-baron rulers have changed their stripes at all:

Uganda’s Bujagali Dam - A Case Study in Corporate Welfare
www.ciel.org/Ifi/ifccaseuganda.html or

AES Backs Out of Bujagali Dam Project
www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=8250 or

Scandinavians pull out of Uganda's Bujagali project
www.afrol.com/articles/12892




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[Ugnet] The Poor-R-Us

[musamize]

Census: We Now Know Where the Very Poor Live 

The East African (Nairobi) 
INTERVIEW
April 25, 2005 

By Bamuturaki Musinguzi
Nairobi 

Uganda last month released the findings of the 2002 Population and Housing Census. BAMUTURAKI MUSINGUZI spoke to the executive director of the Uganda Bureau of Statistics, John B. Male Mukasa 

The Population and Housing Census was carried out in August 2002 and the report was expected after one year. Why has it taken you almost two years to release the report? 

It was a very comprehensive census. The census questionnaire used was more detailed than previous ones or what any other country has used. We we are also transcribing the information manually into computers as opposed to other methods like scanning; and this was time consuming. 

What are the salient issues in the census report? 

That the population is growing at a rapid rate of 3.3 per cent per annum, and now stands at 24.4 million people. It is also now possible to identify poverty enclaves. It is one thing saying that we have the rural poor, but even within the rural people there are enclaves where you find the majority of the poor. Even in urban areas, we know there are slums where the poor live, but even within those so-called slums you can get into smaller area-identification of where the very poor are. And these are still unexplored areas of population information that we have collected. 

Are you concerned about the population growth rate? 

The growth rate is not so much a concern but rather the quality of life that the growing population will have. What facilities do we have or can we offer and what are is our ability to nurture this growing populace into productive citizens? 

What were the major challenges of the census? 

It cost us $17 million, which is a lot of money mobilised over five years. For example, we started the mapping back in 1998. And these resources were not always available. There were periods in between when we had to suspend the preparations because resources were lacking. 

How much did it cost you per person? 

About US 75 cents per person enumerated, and that is arrived at by dividing what we have generally spent up to this point, which is about $17 million, and the population that was enumerated or 24.4 million people. 

South Africa carried out a census at the same time using a short questionnaire, but the exercise cost $2.5 per person enumerated while Zambia spent $1.6 per person. We hired fewer foreign consultants and the Uganda Bureau of Statistics did most of the work, making use of the extensive administrative infrastructure up to the district level. Analysing and disseminating the data may push the total sum used up to $18 million. 

What is the relationship between the census size and the voters register, given that the opposition says the government may try to manipulate the report? 

We did not have any interference and pressures in the processing of our data, and the information that was given about the age structure, which is basically age structure and nationality, is what determines the voters register. We know that in Uganda, people qualify to be voters at the age of 18 and the census report gives the proportion of people who are 18 years and above. 

And of course we know that not all those who qualify by age to vote, register to do so. In any case, the role of registering voters is the responsibility of the Electoral Commission. 

The agriculture census usually follows the population and housing census. Are there any plans to hold the agriculture census, which is already behind schedule? 

Ideally, the agriculture census should follow the population census because the former collects information on the structure and organisation of agriculture, and for a country that depends so much on agriculture it is imperative that we get up to-date-information on the sector. We have developed a framework for the agriculture census and we have already undertaken a pilot census to test the questionnaire that will be used, but funding has been a constraint. 

When should Ugandans expect the next population and housing census? 

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[Ugnet] Everything you always wanted to know why the 3rd World doesn't work ...

[musamize]

If you only read one book in a year, this is a good candidate, or if you merely want to know why the world just looks on as Museveni and his fellow kleptos loot Uganda Mobutu-style 
(anyone recall the new dam fiasco and the bribes that flew around -- and wonder how come we still dont have a new power plant or what happened to Uganda railways, Uganda hotels, etc or why a Gulf Stream jet cost Uganda $40M or why a new state house will cost us at least $150M?)


Editorial Reviews
Amazon.comJohn Perkins started and stopped writing Confessions of an Economic Hit Man four times over 20 years. He says he was threatened and bribed in an effort to kill the project, but after 9/11 he finally decided to go through with this expose of his former professional life. Perkins, a former chief economist at Boston strategic-consulting firm Chas. T. Main, says he was an "economic hit man" for 10 years, helping U.S. intelligence agencies and multinationals cajole and blackmail foreign leaders into serving U.S. foreign policy and awarding lucrative contracts to American business. "Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars," Perkins writes. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is an extraordinary and gripping tale of intrigue and dark machinations. Think John Le Carré, except it's a true story. 
Perkins writes that his economic projections cooked the books Enron-style to convince foreign governments to accept billions of dollars of loans from the World Bank and other institutions to build dams, airports, electric grids, and other infrastructure he knew they couldn't afford. The loans were given on condition that construction and engineering contracts went to U.S. companies. Often, the money would simply be transferred from one bank account in Washington, D.C., to another one in New York or San Francisco. The deals were smoothed over with bribes for foreign officials, but it was the taxpayers in the foreign countries who had to pay back the loans. When their governments couldn't do so, as was often the case, the U.S. or its henchmen at the World Bank or International Monetary Fund would step in and essentially place the country in trusteeship, dictating everything from its spending budget to security agreements and even its United Nations votes. It was, Perkins wri
 tes, a
 clever way for the U.S. to expand its "empire" at the expense of Third World citizens. While at times he seems a little overly focused on conspiracies, perhaps that's not surprising considering the life he's led. --Alex RoslinFrom Publishers WeeklyPerkins spent the 1970s working as an economic planner for an international consulting firm, a job that took him to exotic locales like Indonesia and Panama, helping wealthy corporations exploit developing nations as, he claims, a not entirely unwitting front for the National Security Agency. He says he was trained early in his career by a glamorous older woman as one of many "economic hit men" advancing the cause of corporate hegemony. He also says he has wanted to tell his story for the last two decades, but his shadowy masters have either bought him off or threatened him until now. The story as presented is implausible to say the least, offering so few details that Perkins often seems paranoid, and the
 simplistic political analysis doesn’t enhance his credibility. Despite the claim that his work left him wracked with guilt, the artless prose is emotionally flat and generally comes across as a personal crisis of conscience blown up to monstrous proportions, casting Perkins as a victim not only of his own neuroses over class and money but of dark forces beyond his control. His claim to have assisted the House of Saud in strengthening its ties to American power brokers may be timely enough to attract some attention, but the yarn he spins is ultimately unconvincing, except perhaps to conspiracy buffs.Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.Jim Garrison, author, America As Empire, President of the State of the World Forum"John Perkins has written a book that shakes one's confidence in the ethics of the prevailing economic system."Michael Brownstein "Perkins narrates his moral awakening
  to
 break free from the corrupt system of global domination he himself helped to create."Gary Margolis Ph.D., Director, Center for Counseling and Human Relations, Associate Professor of English, Middlebury College, author, Fire in the Orchard and Falling Awake"This book is Perkins' story, that through necessity and courage offers us a way back, beyond salvation, to human justice."Hazel Henderson, author of Beyond Globalization and Building a Win-Win World"Must reading for those who know another world is possible!"David Korten, author of the bestselling When Corporations Rule the World"… true, powerful, revealing, and bone chilling personal story that names names and connects the dots . . . "Dragonfly 

[Ugnet] 'ANC can take vote for granted'

[Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga]

*[ This article was printed from Sundaytimes.co.za - home of the Sunday 
Times, South Africa. ]*

'ANC can take vote for granted'
Wednesday April 27, 2005 12:42 - (SA)
By Donwald Pressly
Popular control over political decision-makers in South Africa has been 
weakened because of a lack of substantive uncertainty - the uncertainty 
of the outcomes of elections which has eroded leverage over them, an 
Idasa report has found.

The result of this is that political elites in South Africa have 
pandered to capital - especially foreign capital - rather than to the 
will of voters, which they take for granted.

Researchers Adam Habib and Collette Schultz-Herzenberg argue in 
Accountability and Democracy - a chapter of the Institute for 
Democracy in South Africa (Idasa) study entitled Democracy in the Time 
of Mbeki - that political uncertainty is the essence of democracy.

Substantive uncertainty is about the perceptions of ruling political 
elites in a democratic system on whether they will be returned to 
office. Substantive uncertainty is good for democracy for it keeps 
politicians on their toes.

However, this is not the case in South Africa, although it has a 
democratic electoral system, with entrenched constitutional checks and 
balances.

Capital mobility, the integration of production systems across the globe 
and dominance of multinational corporations has transformed the 
political and socio-economic foundations of developing nations - 
including South Africa - changing the relations of power between 
different constituencies within developing societies.

Governments had made policy concessions to foreign investors even when 
it went against the interests of their own citizenry.

The result was the rise of neo-liberal economies and the increasing 
impoverishment of the majority of the citizenry.

Habib and Schultz-Herzenberg argue that South Africa is perhaps the 
best example of this pattern.

The ruling African National Congress as the dominant party in the 
liberation movement had come to office with an overwhelming electoral 
mandate.

But its policy concessions in the last decade had been largely owing to 
foreign investors and domestic capital - both black and white, they argue.

This was because it has been able to take the citizenry's vote for 
granted.

The racialised character of South Africa's principal opposition parties 
- the Democratic Alliance, the Inkatha Freedom Party and the New 
National Party - meant that the ANC has not been seriously threatened 
at the polls.

The same cannot be said of the investment of both foreign investors and 
domestic capital, they said.

There had been policy concessions principally in favour of capital, they 
argue. This led to the abandonment of the Reconstruction and Development 
Programme and the adoption of the Growth, Employment and Redistribution 
strategy.

Answering the question as to what is to be done, they say: If we were 
to prioritise substantive uncertainty, then the necessity of a different 
electoral system (which removes the powers of political party leaders 
over Members of Parliament), the presence of viable opposition parties, 
a break in the (ANC, SA Communist Party, and Congress of SA Trade 
Unions) alliance, a more plural civil society and a revised set of 
labour relations become strategic necessities.

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[Ugnet] Re: [UNAANET] Groveling before Museveni and the fix ...

[musamize]

:

Rev. K.

There are a couple of other problems too: what is the number of prisoners? And, are prisoners on remand also eligible to vote or only convicted ones?








Status
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003

Convicted
5,283
5,594
5,380
6,169
6,908

Remand
10,630
9,815
9,853
10,901
11,044

Total
15,913
15,409
15,233
17,070
17,952

Source: Uganda Prisons






Note the rate of change from year to year. Now ask your self: How did Uganda get "over 21,000 prisoners" as claimed by the Min. of Justice  Const. Affairs, and where do those figures come from?

It seems to me that they are assuming that the prison population will grow at a rate of about 5% per year. But given that this population flactuates, wouldn't it be more prudent to use an average growth rate established over at least 10 years? 

Who came up with this idea,how much planning has gone into imlementing it, how will the process be monitored and what is its legality?

I think the fix is very muchin.
Joseph Kamugisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mw. Ssemakula:

This is absurd! Acts of desperation have now sent the NRM-O all the way to Luzira in an effort to manipulate the prisoners.

Clearly these are"fixes" as you put it. The way i understand it, inorder for one to vote, he/she must know what the incumbent and hisopponents stand for and all this comes through opencampaigns in a free environment. How in the world are the prisoners going to be subjected to such conditions without causing chaos and unnecessary overtime for the prison gurads?

Is it going to be only for prisoners in Luzira Prison or in all upcountry prisons? Will all political parties in the race be freely allowed to go in and out of jails withouta problem?

Now that prisoners can be allowed to vote, what other priveledges are left for them to enjoy? Attending their family wedding cerebrations,attending funnerals ceremonies orattending graduation ceremonies?

Only in Uganda can these crazy things happen.

Kamugisha


Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Mr President, your help will be a great relief to me

SIR — I joined the NRA forces in July 1981 when I was already trained by the Uganda Army. I worked hard in our struggle and was one of the first commanders who recruited and trained NRA soldiers at Kijjaguzo and Bulamba primary schools in 1982.

Today many relatives and friends of fallen NRA soldiers are sad that they were not able to take the remains of their loved ones for a decent burial.

June 9 is commemorated as Heroes Day. However, many of us who fought and those who lost their loved ones have been forgotten to suffer the pangs of poverty.

On July 1, 1998, I met President Museveni at Kisozi, and we talked for more than four hours with Mrs Miria Kyambadde. The President asked us to go back to him after two weeks. I was promised a house for my family but up to now I am still renting.

I assure the President that I am still his staunch supporter and request him to remember his promise. It will be a great relief to me and others in the same category.

RA.0180 Sgt (Rtd) Stephen Sekyanzi 


New Vision: Wednesday, 27th April, 2005

My, oh my, for an adult man to have to grovel like this!

Institutional weakness is Africa’s trouble

SIR — Recently, Bob Geldof kicked up a political storm when he declared that President Yoweri Museveni’s time was up. Some of us supported him, or at least gave him the benefit of the doubt, while others questioned his knowledge and moral authority.

Seezi Cheeye, for example, pointed to Geldof’s private life — his wife left him for another man — and wondered how the pop star who had failed to keep his wife could now presume to tell Ugandans how to govern themselves. I believe a person’s private life may influence a person’s public life and even signal whether they can be trusted or not.

However, I do not believe that personal morality or private life is necessarily indicative of who can make a good leader.

The prominent American ethicist, Reinhold Niebuhr spelt this out in a famous book Moral Man and Immoral Society (New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1960).

Morality that may apply in the personal sphere may not apply in the public realm. He had in mind Christian personal morality. The conduct of public life depends on putting in place structures for delivering certain intended outcomes.

Politics in Africa did not fail because the people are immoral but due to institutional weakness. 

The Rev Amos Kasibante
Leicester, UK


Published on: Wednesday, 27th April, 2005

Bodaboda Candidate Petitions EC Over 'Illegal Registration'

New Vision (Kampala) 
April 27, 2005 

LAWRENCE kushemererwa, a bodaboda cyclist competing for the Mbarara municipality parliamentary seat, has petitioned the returning officer, William Kanyesigye, over the "on-going illegal registration of voters." 

Ebenezer Bifubyeka reports that at a press conference at the Voice of Toro office on Saturday, kushemererwa displayed a copy of over 300 names that he said had secretly been registered. 

[Ugnet] Re: [UNAANET] HEIST: New Dam to Cost Government $35 Billion (Is the Monitor on dope?)

[musamize]

Ssemakula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mr. Mujungu,


The figures struck me as being off the wall too. True to donor-form, 15% of the loan will be devoted to "studies". Do you remember Kaijuka's $10,000 bribe? Apparently he had first asked for a a cool $500,000. Does it surprise you that he went to work for the the same World Bank? (See 
World Bank set to aid multinational power company, not Africa's poor www.probeinternational.org/pi/index.cfm?DSP=contentContentID=2656 )

It has been known for sometime that the donor-club id laden with wolves, e.g. Rodney's book How Europe Un(?)developed Africa and the like. Also the wise are quite wary of World Bank "development loans".

More recently were have been reminded by Perkins in The Confessions of an Economic Hitman (also availabe on CD). see the following reviews:

Editorial Reviews
Amazon.comJohn Perkins started and stopped writing Confessions of an Economic Hit Man four times over 20 years. He says he was threatened and bribed in an effort to kill the project, but after 9/11 he finally decided to go through with this expose of his former professional life. Perkins, a former chief economist at Boston strategic-consulting firm Chas. T. Main, says he was an "economic hit man" for 10 years, helping U.S. intelligence agencies and multinationals cajole and blackmail foreign leaders into serving U.S. foreign policy and awarding lucrative contracts to American business. "Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars," Perkins writes. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is an extraordinary and gripping tale of intrigue and dark machinations. Think John Le Carré, except it's a true story. 
Perkins writes that his economic projections cooked the books Enron-style to convince foreign governments to accept billions of dollars of loans from the World Bank and other institutions to build dams, airports, electric grids, and other infrastructure he knew they couldn't afford. The loans were given on condition that construction and engineering contracts went to U.S. companies. Often, the money would simply be transferred from one bank account in Washington, D.C., to another one in New York or San Francisco. The deals were smoothed over with bribes for foreign officials, but it was the taxpayers in the foreign countries who had to pay back the loans. When their governments couldn't do so, as was often the case, the U.S. or its henchmen at the World Bank or International Monetary Fund would step in and essentially place the country in trusteeship, dictating everything from its spending budget to security agreements and even its United Nations votes. It
  was,
 Perkins writes, a clever way for the U.S. to expand its "empire" at the expense of Third World citizens. While at times he seems a little overly focused on conspiracies, perhaps that's not surprising considering the life he's led. --Alex Roslin
(Do you recall how Museveni became a pariah in Cancun WTO talks or how he suddenly became allergic to condoms in Asia or how our budget is controlled by donors -- whose puppet Museveni has become? Weak leaders always do the bidding of their masters. So Mu7 is nothing more than Dubya's poodle, a glorified one perhaps, but apoodle nonetheless.) 
From Publishers WeeklyPerkins spent the 1970s working as an economic planner for an international consulting firm, a job that took him to exotic locales like Indonesia and Panama, helping wealthy corporations exploit developing nations as, he claims, a not entirely unwitting front for the National Security Agency. He says he was trained early in his career by a glamorous older woman as one of many "economic hit men" advancing the cause of corporate hegemony. He also says he has wanted to tell his story for the last two decades, but his shadowy masters have either bought him off or threatened him until now. The story as presented is implausible to say the least, offering so few details that Perkins often seems paranoid, and the simplistic political analysis doesn’t enhance his credibility. Despite the claim that his work left him wracked with guilt, the artless prose is emotionally flat and generally comes across as a personal crisis of conscience blown up to
 monstrous proportions, casting Perkins as a victim not only of his own neuroses over class and money but of dark forces beyond his control. His claim to have assisted the House of Saud in strengthening its ties to American power brokers may be timely enough to attract some attention, but the yarn he spins is ultimately unconvincing, except perhaps to conspiracy buffs.Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.Jim Garrison, author, America As Empire, President of the State of the World Forum"John Perkins has written a book that shakes one's confidence in the ethics of the prevailing economic system."Michael Brownstein "Perkins narrates his moral awakening to break free 

[Ugnet] The drum: Africas final last frontier (www.mg.co.za)

[Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga]

The drum: Africas final last frontier
John Matshikiza: WITH THE LID OFF   
/25 April 2005 10:59/
In his magnificent (and largely uncelebrated) jazz suite, /A Drum is a 
Woman/, Duke Ellington lets go with both barrels by telling us that 
rhythm came to America from Africa.

It is a bold and uncompromising statement his historical argument being 
that black Africans, transported to the New World in chains, 
nevertheless managed to offload with their bruised and broken bodies 
(those that made it through the treacherous transatlantic crossing, that 
is) the sophistication and syncopation of various African cultures and 
languages transcribed into the idiom that was underpinned by the 
heart-beat-like rhythm of the drum. And from the drum and the soaring 
melodies that accompanied it came the blues (who wouldnt be blue after 
all that?) and out of the blues, jazz and many of the other tangible 
symbols of modern American culture.

Michael Jackson probably doesnt make the direct connection, but it is 
unavoidably there in every musical breath he takes and every eloquent 
dance step he makes (or fakes). The same is true of the OJays, James 
Brown, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross and the Supremes, Wynton Marsalis and 
so on, and also the Allman Brothers, Willie Nelson, Frank Sinatra, 
Madonna and Elvis Presley, if they would only admit it. Acknowledge 
your debt to Africa, is the word.

The beleaguered Professor Malegapuru Willie Makgoba subliminally 
follows through Ellingtons argument with his now notorious diatribe 
against the phenomenon of the unreconstructed, ageing, cornered white 
baboon adrift in the new South Africa by advising him to get with the 
programme and learn to dance like Lebo Mathosa.

Africanise your ass if you want to look like you belong in Africa is 
what he is basically saying. And the African ass, if you will pardon the 
metaphor, goes a long, long way back  which makes catching up with it a 
particularly tall order. (Hence the undeclared pain and bewilderment of 
those among our white brethren and sistren who feel themselves directly 
addressed by his provocative commandment.)

Seeing writhing white bodies attempting to emulate Lebos licks is in 
itself a sight for sore eyes, and Professor Makgoba, among all his other 
misdemeanours, might well be taken to task for encouraging unacceptable 
displays of public indecency. But there are certain areas where his 
strategy for Africanising non-African Africans has already not only been 
taken to heart, but is in the full flood of autonomous implementation.

I am talking about the phenomenon of the Drum Caf, a local invention 
for getting white people in tune with the African heartbeat that has 
taken off to become a multimillion-dollar industry across the civilised 
world.

Now, the drum, for all its seeming simplicity, even crudity of form and 
conception, is a misleadingly complex instrument. It might not boast all 
the engineering complexity of the piano or the trumpet or the saxophone, 
but its manipulation requires at least as much skill.

Therefore you would not walk into the average African village and hear 
everybody, man, woman and child alike, beating away with dexterity at 
this marvellous instrument. Children might distractedly while away the 
time by beating one with a stick or a couple of chubby paws, but the 
true practise of the instrument is left in the hands of the 
professionals people who spend almost a lifetime perfecting the art of 
drumming.

The drum, after all, is as much sacrament as entertainment. Its soul, as 
Ellington put it, is like the elusive soul of a woman and demands as 
much care and attention  not a dilly-dallying matter (and I suppose 
Ive just started another whole furious debate just by saying that).

The Drum Caf ethos seems to go against all that. Just like that inane 
pop song that went Id like to teach the world to sing / in perfect 
harmony, the Drum Caf philosophy is based on the notion that it is 
possible to teach anyone (white people in particular) to connect with 
the simple, earthy heartbeat of Africa by spending a few sessions 
banging around on a mass-produced /djembe/.

And this is where Professor Makgobas philosophy comes crashing head on 
against the survival strategy of the unreconstructed white baboon, or 
bonobo, against whom he rails. They are both saying the same thing, but 
have completely opposed understandings of the meaning.

Makgoba is saying, Submit yourself to the dense and ancient logic of 
Africa. Respect it. The gung-ho Drum Caf folk, on the other hand, are 
saying, Bang on a drum and Africa will love you. Or, to go even 
further: Bang on a drum and you can forget about feeling guilty about 
being in Africa.

The Drum Caf launched its book, written and narrated by one Laurie 
Levine, over the past weekend and put across just this message. There 
were a couple dozen young black performers, mostly women, grinningly 
selling the almost exclusively white audience just this 

Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!

[Edward Mulindwa]

Simon Nume

No what I want you to state here and now, is very 
simple. When Muteesa fled Uganda did Obote as a current president instruct bank 
of Uganda to maintain Muteesa by sending him money to London, are these Obote's 
instructions still on Uganda books?

Em
Toronto

The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is 
in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Simon Nume 
  To: ugandanet@kym.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:07 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe 
  fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!
  
  Mulindwa 
  
  You should at least learn to spell correctly the swear words you 
  use.
  
  Interestingly I KNOW ( and probably Kasangwawo) where he got the money 
  from to go to private school and Cambridge after both his parents were 
  dead.
  
  Just because YOU dont know is not my problem.
  
  NumeEdward Mulindwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Simon Nume

Where did Mutebi get that money from. Address 
the issues instead of sending firkin snipes. Yes he had the money but what 
we are discussing here is where was it coming from? Did you Simon Nume or 
Kasangwawo ever send money to Mutebi for his studies? How dare you claim how 
he had the money to study in Cambridge but you can not acknowledge the 
source? That is where the failure of Buganda is. 


And I swear we will live to death but every 
single leader will be bad to Buganda for we as a tribe are just too fucked 
up.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, 
Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est 
dans l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Simon Nume 
  
  To: ugandanet@kym.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:50 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a 
  Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!
  
  Jonah
  
  Has Mulindwa ever met anyone privately educated in the UK ?
  Someone should tellhim that ANYONE who can afford to go to a 
  private schooland on to Cambridge has to have enough money and 
  connections NOT to be a pipe fitter.
  
  Numejonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  I 
see that you intentionally fail to mention that Kabaka Mutebi studied 
law at Cambridge and that he wrote for reknowned publications such 
as 'The economist' !You don't sound like you've seen the 
inside of a lecture room, so you might not know this. But students 
do all sorts of jobs during their holidays. For example Prince 
William of England has worked on construction in S. America and so 
has his brother Harry in S. Africa. I don't see you calling them 
builders.Ssabasajja did not go to UK to become a pipe 
fitter. I'm challenging you to produce the evidence that he did. So 
many times you have failed to provide proof after making such wild 
allegations.KasangwawoFrom: "Edward Mulindwa" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.netTo: 
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT 
KNOW!Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:27 
-0400MOSsabasajja is a well qualified 
pipe fitter, he did the course in UK.Buganda's politics 
is so silly that it runs under the blanket of secrecy that many 
of these facts are not mentioned any where, and the Kasangwawo's 
only preach Obote is bad, and who ever does not agree with 
Buganda stand as a Rwandese, but facts always remain facts. 
Mutebi is a pipe fitter and I challenge any one to tell other 
wise, and I will post where he qualified.If I post it I 
know it is true and 
verifiable.EmToronto The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas"avec Yoweri 
Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" - Original 
Message - From: Matek Opoko To: 
ugandanet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:19 PM 
Subject: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT 
KNOW! revoke that order from the bank of 
Uganda books. Obote left power the second time and the 
family remained taking the money from Uganda government. It 
is that same money, why people like Kabaka Mutebi managed to go 
to school in UK and become pipe fitters. 
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Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!

[Edward Mulindwa]

Kasangwawo
We know that family so do not make a full of your self. It is even 
interesting that in all your innuendos, you have never tried to financially 
support this kingdom you declare to love. We need as Baganda to learn a 
lesson from that, we are disorganized, we are much talkers than doers, and 
we do not recognize people doing good things for us.

Look here I took the time and studied Uganda government under Obote one and 
I hope people out there study it, do you know for example, that Buganda has 
never got as many power full ministers as under Obote one? And as soon as 
Obote left power we were turned into condoms which you use and throw away.

Kasangwawo take the time to read and study Uganda/Buganda relationship under 
Obote, for it will help you from arguing from an ignorant point.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
   Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie
- Original Message - 
From: jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ugandanet@kym.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!


Mulindwa,
I asked you for the evidence. Where is it ? Stop the nonsense and provide 
the evidence.
Kabaka Mutebi's family had money even before Obote learned to wear 
clothes.

Kasangwawo

Edward Mulindwa
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:26:48 -0700
Simon Nume
Where did Mutebi get that money from. Address the issues instead of 
sending firkin snipes. Yes he had the money but what we are discussing 
here is where was it coming from? Did you Simon Nume or Kasangwawo ever 
send money to Mutebi for his studies? How dare you claim how he had the 
money to study in Cambridge but you can not acknowledge the source? That 
is where
the failure of Buganda is.

And I swear we will live to death but every single leader will be bad to 
Buganda for we as a tribe are just too fucked up.

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas avec Yoweri Museveni, 
l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie

From: Simon Nume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net
To: ugandanet@kym.net
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT 
KNOW!
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:50:04 -0700 (PDT)

Jonah
Has Mulindwa ever met anyone privately educated in the UK ?
Someone should tell him that ANYONE who can afford to go to a private 
school and on to Cambridge has to have enough money and connections NOT to 
be a pipe fitter.

Nume
jonah kasangwawo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see that you intentionally fail to mention that Kabaka Mutebi studied 
law
at Cambridge and that he wrote for reknowned publications such as 'The
economist' !

You don't sound like you've seen the inside of a lecture room, so you 
might
not know this. But students do all sorts of jobs during their holidays. 
For
example Prince William of England has worked on construction in S. America
and so has his brother Harry in S. Africa. I don't see you calling them
builders.

Ssabasajja did not go to UK to become a pipe fitter. I'm challenging you 
to
produce the evidence that he did. So many times you have failed to provide
proof after making such wild allegations.

Kasangwawo
From: Edward Mulindwa
Reply-To: ugandanet@kym.net
To:
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT
KNOW!
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 20:47:27 -0400

MO

Ssabasajja is a well qualified pipe fitter, he did the course in UK.

Buganda's politics is so silly that it runs under the blanket of secrecy
that many of these facts are not mentioned any where, and the
Kasangwawo's
only preach Obote is bad, and who ever does not agree with Buganda stand
as
a Rwandese, but facts always remain facts. Mutebi is a pipe fitter and I
challenge any one to tell other wise, and I will post where he 
qualified.

If I post it I know it is true and verifiable.

Em
Toronto

 The Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy
 Groupe de communication Mulindwas
avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie

 - Original Message -
 From: Matek Opoko
 To: ugandanet@kym.net
 Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:19 PM
 Subject: [Ugnet] Kabaka Mutebi a Pipe fitter!..Now that I did NOT KNOW!



 revoke that order from the bank of Uganda books. Obote left power the
 second
 time and the family remained taking the money from Uganda government.
 It is
 that same money, why people like Kabaka Mutebi managed to go to school
 in UK
 and become pipe fitters.
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Re: [Ugnet] Ugandans plant trees in potholes - BBC - 26/4/2005

[Edward Mulindwa]

Ffe kasita twebaka

Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With 
Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy" 
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Omar 
  Kezimbira 
  To: Ugandanet@kym.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:10 
  PM
  Subject: [Ugnet] Ugandans plant trees in 
  potholes - BBC - 26/4/2005
  
  
  


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  The scene on 8th street - close to the city 
  centreThe state 
of some roads in Uganda's capital, Kampala, is so bad that protesters 
have planted banana trees in the middle of potholes. 
One campaigner says he saw a fish caught in one of the bigger 
potholes that had filled with water. 
Now a politician is leading a campaign to get the roads repaired and 
says this is becoming a major issue for his party ahead of elections 
next year. 
Conservative Party leader Ken Lukyamuzi says corruption is to blame. 
Tax 
He says money earmarked for the roads is not being spent, and when it 
is, the tarmac is too thin and disintegrates when it rains. 
"When you hear sums of money related to what is going to be done, you 
just laugh," says Mr Lukyamuzi, whose party is one of the smaller 
players in Ugandan politics. 
"These roads are done using the taxpayers' money," he says as he 
manoeuvres his car among the potholes. "People pay the taxes." 
Mr Lukyamuzi says that quite aside from the number of accidents the 
potholes cause, there is a good economic reason to fix them. 
"You cannot do anything constructive in terms of trade," he says. "A 
lot of food which feeds the people in Kampala comes from very long 
distances. So, you have to address the roads." 
He also laments the fact that the only way around them is to drive on 
the wrong side of the road. 
"I cannot, for example, abide by the rules of driving in Uganda, 
which is moving on the left side - I have to move onto the other side as 
if I was driving when I'm in the Democratic Republic of Congo, or 
France, or Rwanda. Can you imagine that? It is absurd." 



  
  
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