[Ugnet] IDDI AMIN NEVER TARGETED LANGIs/ACHOLIs, THEY TARGETED HIM {---Series twenty eight}
Friends As I continue to raise the violence of Acholi in our country, it is imperative that we realize that following Acholi population is not a case that has been done in the series only. There are other people that have followed but studied them, and in this series I am going to raise a part of a paper that was written by a Uganda scholar, based on his research and what he found out about them. As you are reading his submission, there are a couple of facts that have caught my eye on their history. For example, they have lived their lives based solely on militarism and fighting wars. Did you know as an example that in 1914 Acholi fought in WW1 and “they earned a reputation”. Now here is the part that we all as Ugandans need to read very carefully to understand what we are up against. By the second world war, more Acholi men were serving in the army than any other ethnic group in Uganda. The two world wars introduced into Acholi the culture of being drunkards, beating and raping women, and gaining money from military service. By the end of WW11 in about 1945, 5,600 Acholi were serving in the army. Friends this is how bold is the Acholi problem we are facing today, they did no start this behavior in West Nile let alone Luwero and Teso, they have been a violent society since WW1, and no one cared to go after them. It is that negligence and failure to understand how bold is the Acholi violence, why little children as young as 8 year olds have been raped in our midst. It is that negligence and failure to understand how bold is the Acholi violence, why West Nile, Teso and Luwero women have been raped in our midst. Just last night I had a dinner with a family and the wife with tears was explaining how she stood in front of Acholi soldiers on a road block, during Tito Okello government, she was asked for identification, which she handed them, and as an Acholi stood in front of her, he was holding the identity card upside down, for he was an illiterate thug holding a gun, and he slapped her screaming “Densite card mama !! He dragged her off the road block and raped her in the kasisira, returning her to the car. This poor woman was a nurse manager in a major Kampala hospital. She took her car and drove to Busia leaving the country and she has never came back again. In her words, I refuse to live in a country with that kind of people. Friends, I am appealing to all Ugandans to raise up and we commit the year 2015 to be the year of declaring the Acholi violence a national disaster, for it is with such a classification it can be attended to with the resources it so very immediately requires, so that society can get the sanity to start to live a reasonably safe but normal lives. That is the most minimum the weak among us as women and girls demand from all of you today. Fellow Ugandans, below is part of a paper under a heading “Violence prevention in Acholi” Dissertation, submitted by Reverend Ali Onono Ocan. It was submitted in July 2011 and I am posting from page 34. 3.1.2 History of Violence in Acholi Acholi history can reveal cycles of violence in Uganda and failed attempts to prevent further re-occurrence. Before contact with non-Africans, independent clans would have rivalries among themselves and often were at war for a cause. The wars were mainly short retaliation raids approved by the chieftain Jok. Alliances would be formed to ensure a stronger attacking force. The wars and alliances were among clans or neighboring tribes. The Bunyoro Kingdom was a useful tribe in violence prevention with Acholi mainly for dispute resolution to diffuse violence. The Banyoro would form alliance with the Acholi during difficult times, like when King Kabalega in 1898 had troubles at home with the British, Rwot Awich provided some protection. When there were disputes among clans, the Banyoro would assist in resolving the outstanding problems. However the Karamojong warriors continue to raid cattle from some part of Acholi land up to today. In the same spirit of forming alliances, Rwot Lobai of Atiak in about 1855 invited traders from Godonkoro for help against the Jo-Chwa. The slave-traders used this chance to cause violence as they took away slaves. Many villages were raided and taken away as slaves. Crazzollara comments that their “establishment and stay in Acholi land was entirely based on the rivalries of the various chieftainships and their discords”. The devastating impact of slave trade made the clans unite to attack their trading post in Acholi. Slave trade made the people acquire guns and was the beginning of fighting against foreigners. According to Bere “the geographical position and the democratic nature of their rulers prevented over- extensive raiding” European explorers Speke and Grant in 1862 and Sir Samuel Baker a year later raised the problem of Acholi slave trade in Europe. Acholi land was annexed to Egypt in
Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} THE UAHS OF THE YEAR 2014
Akim Odong
Do not worry about it, women were raped in Luwero and West Nile but they were
so dumb to understand that Acholi dicks are good as the girls you are talking
about. Reminds me of how Edward Pojim reminded Baganda that raping their women
is a blessing for Baganda dicks are useless. It is a struggle but we are going
to reach a point where Ugandans agree that raping women is a criminal offence.
I lived in this country when everyone would smoke in a plane, I am going to go
after Acholi till even degree holders like Pojim realize that rape is wrong.
As Trudeu said, Just watch !!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
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Rajab Ali;
That is where you go wrong. This topic has been the dog's den for days. Thanks
to Mulindwa, and so i decided i will follow him in the den and deal with it
from there. I apologise for any inconveniences but what other way do you deal
with Mulindwa when he decides to go to the dog's den?
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Rajab Ali raj62...@gmail.com
mailto:raj62...@gmail.com wrote:
Again this is another area where this debate has been lost. It has now stooped
to the level of for us we eat meat but for you you eat bijanjaalo!
Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Jan 2015, at 18:17, akim odong akimod...@gmail.com
mailto:akimod...@gmail.com wrote:
Gwokto;
That is one of life's mystery. While Mulindwa vows that Acoli people are
violent, his nieces are busy running after Acholi men as if they their life
after death depends on this relationship. Let him deceive himself. Acholi will
keep moving forward and i know it's towards federalism that it will finally
find peace!
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Gwokto La'Kitgum lakit...@gmail.com
mailto:lakit...@gmail.com wrote:
Mulindwa, if you left a daughter in Uganda, the chances that she will end up
with an Acoli man is very high. Take note!
Akim,
My immediate family has two of then Ganda women and Nyoro. They produce like
lab rats.
The same adage thats said in the West of Once you go black you dont go back
has ALWAYS been the same of Baganda women and Acholi men. To date I still dodge
those human bullets from here on a daily basis.
___
Gwokto La'Kitgum
Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building, Jim Hightower
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, akim odong akimod...@gmail.com
mailto:akimod...@gmail.com wrote:
Mulindwa;
That is your strength; misrepresenting facts!
You stated that southerners also went to the north and raped Acholi children;
must they not also apologise? Who were the southerners anyway; Baganda,
Banyankole or Batoro who did the rape?
As if that was not thrash enough, your claim that Canada is a nation of law and
order, how come the rampant killing on it's street then; is it lawful? It goes
to my point that despite the lawful nature of the country, killing and beating
still take place, but yours truly who have packed Mugugu joined you in Canada
have not resorted to carrying spears and chasing a cantankerous Mulindwa around
Toronto. So they are not all wild you want us to believe.
Sad to say, you have failed to make a case against the mighty tribe of Acoli.
If you have a case to prove against the UNLA which comprised of the likes of
Sam Nanyumba, Gen Wamala and Odong Latek, then it's within your right. But keep
your hands off Acholi.
Mulindwa, if you left a daughter in Uganda, the chances that she will end up
with an Acoli man is very high. Take note!
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa mulin...@look.ca
mailto:mulin...@look.ca wrote:
Ugandans
Wow !2015 already has its first statement of the year: Acholi are
resilient because they successfully rape, murder, loot and return back to
their original form and shape to rape another day-Akim Adong. {The
promoter of federalism in Uganda}
Talk of misuse of words!! Akim, is this the premise on which your federalism
is going to be built: raping, looting and murdering?. You also wondered why
Gwokto has not physically attacked me yet. Akim, Canada is not Acholi land, a
place where people rape, loot, kill and celebrate their resilience. Canada is a
country of law that is why your kin
[Ugnet] THE UAHS OF THE YEAR 2014
Akim Odong
my series has nothing to do with Acholi sexual prowess, but their urge to rape,
loot and murder. Rape is a very serious matter that must be treated with all
the attention it deserves. Rape is not Marvin Gaye's Sexual Healing Lyric: oh
baby now let's get down tonight, but is a crime. You can date all the Ganda
girls you want if this is done with respect, dignity, humility and common
decency, which unfortunately is not embedded in the Acholi culture. Your
culture is that of abuse, insult, arrogance and false sense of pride. I find it
almost amusing that when you say Acholi are moving forward, forward to where?
If it is towards leading Uganda, Akim, forget that one, apart from Yusuf Lule's
short presidency, Acholi government in Uganda lasted one summer only. By winter
it was toast. If Tutsi can toast you out of power with such lightning speed and
rule you for 28 years having camped more than one million of you for two
decades, while your fellow Acholi Joseph Kony was raping the rest and cutting
their lips off, where do you get the courage to say ruling Uganda by Acholi is
within sight?
Akim, if you want to sit at the high table again, learn to respect your fellow
countrymen/women from other parts of the country. Raping their mothers,
sisters, daughters and grandmas will not help you achieve your misguided belief
in federalism sir. After all, federalism is Baganda cry and not yours. You are
too quick to jump on others bandwagon with two objectives: (1) to take it over
and (2) to destroy it if you do not succeed in owning it.
The UPC party is a very classic example.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko
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To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} THE UAHS OF THE YEAR 2014
Mulindwa;
That is your strength; misrepresenting facts!
You stated that southerners also went to the north and raped Acholi children;
must they not also apologise? Who were the southerners anyway; Baganda,
Banyankole or Batoro who did the rape?
As if that was not thrash enough, your claim that Canada is a nation of law and
order, how come the rampant killing on it's street then; is it lawful? It goes
to my point that despite the lawful nature of the country, killing and beating
still take place, but yours truly who have packed Mugugu joined you in Canada
have not resorted to carrying spears and chasing a cantankerous Mulindwa around
Toronto. So they are not all wild you want us to believe.
Sad to say, you have failed to make a case against the mighty tribe of Acoli.
If you have a case to prove against the UNLA which comprised of the likes of
Sam Nanyumba, Gen Wamala and Odong Latek, then it's within your right. But keep
your hands off Acholi.
Mulindwa, if you left a daughter in Uganda, the chances that she will end up
with an Acoli man is very high. Take note!
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa mulin...@look.ca
mailto:mulin...@look.ca wrote:
Ugandans
Wow !2015 already has its first statement of the year: Acholi are
resilient because they successfully rape, murder, loot and return back to
their original form and shape to rape another day-Akim Adong. {The
promoter of federalism in Uganda}
Talk of misuse of words!! Akim, is this the premise on which your federalism
is going to be built: raping, looting and murdering?. You also wondered why
Gwokto has not physically attacked me yet. Akim, Canada is not Acholi land, a
place where people rape, loot, kill and celebrate their resilience. Canada is a
country of law that is why your kin Gwokto has not physically harmed me yet.
Akim dancing while wielding spears does not give you a free passage to rape,
murder and loot.
Apologize to Ugandans for raping their daughters, sisters and wives instead of
defining your crimes against them as resilience sir. Ge’ez !!!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko
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[Ugnet] Britain’s Prince Andrew accused of using 'under-age sex slave'
Britain’s Prince Andrew accused of using 'under-age sex slave' Published time: January 02, 2015 16:05 Get short URL http://rt.com/uk/219419-prince-andrew-child-abuse/ [image: Britain's Prince Andrew (Reuters)] Britain's Prince Andrew (Reuters) Tags Accident http://rt.com/tags/accident/, Anonymous http://rt.com/tags/anonymous/, Intelligence http://rt.com/tags/intelligence/,Internet http://rt.com/tags/internet/, Law http://rt.com/tags/law/, Mass media http://rt.com/tags/mass-media/, Scandal http://rt.com/tags/scandal/, UK http://rt.com/tags/uk/ Prince Andrew, son of Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II, has been accused of having sexual relations with an underage girl in a case submitted to a US court on Friday. The woman involved in the case, who has not been named, told a court in Florida she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew multiple times by disgraced US multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein. The statement is part of a wider case against Epstein, who is accused of *“loaning out”* the then-teenager to his friends and associates. *READ MORE:* ‘Reopen investigation into Westminster pedophile whistleblower deaths’ – MP http://rt.com/uk/217051-child-abuse-whistleblowers-deaths/ Epstein, 58, was jailed for 18 months in 2008 for seeking sexual relations with an underage girl. However since his jailing, around 40 women, none of them identified, have accused Epstein of sexually abusing them. Court documents seen by The Guardian say: *“One such powerful individual Epstein forced [the woman] to have sexual relations with was a member of the British royal family, Prince Andrew (aka Duke of York).”* However, Buckingham Palace have hit back at the allegations, calling them *“untrue.”* [image: Buckingham Palace in London (AFP Photo/Carl De Souza)] Buckingham Palace in London (AFP Photo/Carl De Souza) *“This relates to long-standing and ongoing civil proceedings in the United States, to which The Duke of York is not a party,”* a Palace spokesperson said. *“However, for the avoidance of doubt, any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue.”* The information comes as MPs warn that there may not be enough resources available to conduct an official inquiry into historic child abuse cases in Britain during the 70s and 80s. Last week, Labour MP John Mann said that police and social services may be unable to deal with *“tens of thousands”* of people likely to give evidence about child abuse, including elite *“VIP”* pedophile rings, consisting of high-ranking politicians. *READ MORE:* Claims of child abuse cover-up heighten tensions in Westminster http://rt.com/uk/171024-child-abuse-cover-up/ The government’s official inquiry has been put on hold after the departure of two of its heads due to*“conflicts of interest,”* with some ministers predicting that the panel could face a break up if a suitable leader was not selected soon. ___ Ugandanet mailing list Ugandanet@kym.net http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/ugandanet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ---
[Ugnet] THIS IS WHAT IDDI AMIN NEVER ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO UGANDANS {May the president rest in peace}
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Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} THE UAHS OF THE YEAR 2014
Akim Odong
Bad leaders survive in Uganda for Ugandans are not informed on what happens to
fellow Ugandans. Before the series tell me how many times you ever heard that
Acholi were cutting women viginas out in Luwero? Before the series kindly tell
me how many times you have ever heard that Acholi raped West Nile women to as
old as 80? Before the series tell me how many times you have ever heard that
most of the road brocks during UNLA/F government including Obote two actually
very mammy women were raped? Akim before this series did it ever occur to you
let alone get informed to you that those of us that are non-Acholi or non Langi
just got fade up for our weak ones were abused passed the humanely limit? And
the answer is simply no because to you as Akim Odong, to you as Edward Pojim,
to you as WBK, to you as Abbey Ssemuwemba, to you as Ssabassajja Mutebi, to you
as Peter Simon, to you as Gwokto, to you as Dr Muniini Mulera a vagina is a
product of men. And the women that have gone into powerful position in Uganda
today from all circles, none believe that if an Acholi gets a broken glass and
cut a vigina out of an 8 year old is wrong because in Uganda vaginas are a
product of men and can be used but abused any way they so wish. Akim my next
series is going to be about how Acholi men are abusive in their own homes thus
families. Do you know what is so strange about that study? Acholi men abuse
their wives so hard that to today there is no single Acholi woman that know
that she is abused. It is very strange that to today, no single Uganda woman
has ever complained about being raped.
I am glad you follow the series.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko
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Mulindwa;
If Acholi are that nasty, violent in all ways why is it that southern girls
flock after them. It goes to prove two things either you're painting false
image of Acholi or southern girls like to play with fire and have flawed
judgement. I know many studies have indicated that women have a crazy
admiration for bad boys but my God according to your belief, Acholi is well
beyond bad boy, nevertheless; your southern belles, find Acholi men attractive
to the extent that they want you Mulindwa, to have a niece or nephew with
Acholi blood.
Here you wrote; If Tutsi can toast you out of power with such lightning speed
and rule you for 28 years having camped more than one million of you for two
decades but it was not only the case that Acholi suffered alone, even Buganda
paid a heavy price for allowing the so called lighting Tutsi use their
backyard. How many Baganda took to exile, shortly after NRA came to power? How
many of them who remained, are unaccounted for?. Recently, how many of them
paid for their lives when they stood up to support their Kabaka?
Mulindwa, Acholi has never wanted to be president, Acholi has always wanted
Uganda to develop and turn into a proper nation. They even invited Museveni for
talks when he had fled his stronghold. Ask him if the Nairobi peace did not
take place. What was it for, Acholi dominance? Wapi! But Acholi's efforts were
thwarted by you're so called enkere ruining the damn pond. These episode will
not put Acholi off from duty to the nation, they have found themselves as part
of. Is it any wonder that out of the major opposition parties, two of the
leaders are Acholi; not to mention that NRM is about to be taken over by
Todwong? It is no accident my boy!. Still, this is in line with duty to the
nation but not to be president for the sake of. Acholi wants a united Uganda,
with federalism a system of governance. Acholi does not do centralised system.
That is oppression if you asked me.
Read here what you wrote;
After all, federalism is Baganda cry and not yours. You are too quick to jump
on others bandwagon with two objectives: (1) to take it over and (2) to destroy
it if you do not succeed in owning it.
Mulindwa, Acholi is moving and moving towards federalism and development.
Buganda cannot own an idea that existed in Acholi since it's creation. If you
will recall reading the piece by the reverend Onono that you posted here, he
recounted how different Acholi sovereign clans clashed etc, that was because
they practised federalism and did not do centralised system like Buganda did,
that is why a half a century down the dusty lane, Buganda is still toying with
the idea, because they did not practice it. Acholi is not
