Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Bhavani Iyer
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bhavani Iyer wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Bhavani Iyer wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>

[jira] Closed: (UIMA-1160) [DDE] Copy missing icon named "editor.gif" from CDE to to DDE

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1160?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Marshall Schor closed UIMA-1160. Resolution: Fixed > [DDE] Copy missing icon named "editor.gif" from CDE to to DDE > ---

[jira] Updated: (UIMA-1160) [DDE] Copy missing icon named "editor.gif" from CDE to to DDE

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1160?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Tong Fin updated UIMA-1160: --- Attachment: .jpg > [DDE] Copy missing icon named "editor.gif" from CDE to to DDE > --

[jira] Created: (UIMA-1160) [DDE] Copy missing icon named "editor.gif" from CDE to to DDE

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin (JIRA)
[DDE] Copy missing icon named "editor.gif" from CDE to to DDE -- Key: UIMA-1160 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1160 Project: UIMA Issue Type: Improvement

[jira] Resolved: (UIMA-1146) Setting the number of concurrent listeners of a reply queue for Co-located Delegates

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1146?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Marshall Schor resolved UIMA-1146. -- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: 2.3AS Assignee: Tong Fin (was: Marshall Schor)

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
As I said, the Joern's use-case is at the application level. There is more room to add supports. But, we need to put more code in the application side (not in the UIMA framework). When I said keeping info in CAS, I mean that I rely on the UIMA framework to provide API to do de/serialization and acc

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor
Bhavani Iyer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Bhavani Iyer wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> -1 to returning internal CAS handles as FS IDs. That's asking for >>

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
It's not directly supported, but don't you think it could help in such an application? You would still need to keep the full intermediate CASes around, but the journal would be very helpful in determining where changes happened. The actual difference for display could be computed on the fly. So

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
That is a good information ! I think we will let the tool (outside UIMA framework) to create a user-friendly ID by itself. The UIMA framework will not create/provide any unique ID for each FS. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Marshall Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Adam Lally wrote: > >>

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor
Adam Lally wrote: >> With the proposed change to return an Iterator instead of an array of >> ints, you >> can get a reference to a FeatureStructure object and then call the >> method hashCode() >> to get the id. >> >> > > I would not recommend relying on a hash code being a uni

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
In short answer, it is not possible since the context of creating CAS Journal that we are proposing is different from your use-case. In the current design, we try to minimize the overhead in the UIMA framework and less modification to the code. We keep track the changes "by each analysis engine"

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Jörn Kottmann
Does "revision" mean change between runs or between operations ? If it is, the current "proposed" format does not cover this use-case because there are issues on how to represent "intermediate" values of feature structures for example. A user opens a CAS in the editor and do changes to the CA

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Jörn Kottmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please review the intiial proposal for extending the CAS interface to >> support journaling posted on the wiki: >> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/UIMA/APIs+for+CAS+Journaling >> > > For debugging a time stamp o

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Jörn Kottmann
Please review the intiial proposal for extending the CAS interface to support journaling posted on the wiki: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/UIMA/APIs+for+CAS +Journaling For debugging a time stamp of the jornal could be useful. Could the journal also be used by the Cas Editor to st

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Adam Lally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With the proposed change to return an Iterator instead of an array of > > ints, you > > can get a reference to a FeatureStructure object and then call the > > method hashCode() > > to get the id. > > > > I woul

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Adam Lally
> With the proposed change to return an Iterator instead of an array of > ints, you > can get a reference to a FeatureStructure object and then call the > method hashCode() > to get the id. > I would not recommend relying on a hash code being a unique identifier. There's no guarantee

Re: [jira] Commented: (UIMA-1129) XMI serialization support for delta CAS

2008-08-26 Thread Eddie Epstein
Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No client turns on delta CAS for any other; each client request must > specify desire for a delta CAS response. A global setting for the service > would not work. > > Not sure we're talking about the same thing. I mean that the delta CAS > mode must

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Bhavani Iyer
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Tong Fin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The goal is to allow user to see the "changed history of each feature > structure". > For example, the Fig 3.5 in the proposed GUI posted in Wiki > > http://cwiki.apache.org/UIMA/cas-viewer-extension-for-provenance-tracking-of-

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Bhavani Iyer
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bhavani Iyer wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> -1 to returning internal CAS handles as FS IDs. That's asking for > >> trouble. Why would you want to do that? You'r

[jira] Closed: (UIMA-1159) UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component - treating it as a remote

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1159?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Marshall Schor closed UIMA-1159. Resolution: Fixed > UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component - >

[jira] Updated: (UIMA-1159) UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component - treating it as a remote

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1159?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Marshall Schor updated UIMA-1159: - Fix Version/s: 2.3AS > UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
The goal is to allow user to see the "changed history of each feature structure". For example, the Fig 3.5 in the proposed GUI posted in Wiki http://cwiki.apache.org/UIMA/cas-viewer-extension-for-provenance-tracking-of-uima-cas-content.html show that the FS (of RoomNumber type) with id=61 is create

[jira] Created: (UIMA-1159) UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component - treating it as a remote

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor (JIRA)
UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component - treating it as a remote Key: UIMA-1159 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIM

[jira] Updated: (UIMA-1159) UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located component - treating it as a remote

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1159?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Marshall Schor updated UIMA-1159: - Affects Version/s: 2.2.2AS > UIMA-AS dd2Spring fix - generating wrong property for co-located comp

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
Bhavani Iyer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -1 to returning internal CAS handles as FS IDs. That's asking for >> trouble. Why would you want to do that? You're forcing the user >> to deal with low-level CAS APIs. >> > > How about if an

Re: [jira] Commented: (UIMA-1129) XMI serialization support for delta CAS

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
Eddie Epstein (JIRA) wrote: > [ > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625727#action_12625727 > ] > > Eddie Epstein commented on UIMA-1129: > - > > {quote

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
Tong Fin wrote: > Just to clarify... Sorry, but this didn't really clarify anything for me. What's wrong with just returning an array of FS objects? > > My comment means that I suggest to have a new API to get FS from ID and not > to use the existing Low-level API. This ID is not related to any

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Bhavani Iyer
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:28 AM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -1 to returning internal CAS handles as FS IDs. That's asking for > trouble. Why would you want to do that? You're forcing the user > to deal with low-level CAS APIs. > How about if an iterator is returned from which

Re: Cad Editor splitting

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jörn Kottmann wrote: > >> This does sound like a good direction. In order to use the CAS viewer it >>> should be accepted into the sandbox. Any objection to resubmitting the >>> vote? >>> >> >> There is still no plan how to

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
Just to clarify... My comment means that I suggest to have a new API to get FS from ID and not to use the existing Low-level API. This ID is not related to any implementation that we have or know about. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Tong Fin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -1 to returning int

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Tong Fin
> -1 to returning internal CAS handles as FS IDs. That's asking for > trouble. Why would you want to do that? You're forcing the user > to deal with low-level CAS APIs. > I think this FS ID is required by the tool to show the modification history of a FS. For example, FS with id=10 is created by

[jira] Commented: (UIMA-1129) XMI serialization support for delta CAS

2008-08-26 Thread Adam Lally (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625762#action_12625762 ] Adam Lally commented on UIMA-1129: -- > -1. We can't have arbitrary clients turn on Delta CAS

Improving communication / background on the dev-list

2008-08-26 Thread Marshall Schor
Some of the work being done on UIMA includes some face to face discussions among a subset of the development team. I would like to improve our *documentation* of these efforts with the goal of enabling those who are interested in following along and (maybe) contributing, but are not part of the fa

Re: [jira] Commented: (UIMA-1158) Some shell scripts don't work on Ubuntu Linux

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
Burn Lewis (JIRA) wrote: [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1158?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625728#action_12625728 ] Burn Lewis commented on UIMA-1158: -- This time I'll preview my comme

[jira] Commented: (UIMA-1158) Some shell scripts don't work on Ubuntu Linux

2008-08-26 Thread Burn Lewis (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1158?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625728#action_12625728 ] Burn Lewis commented on UIMA-1158: -- This time I'll preview my comment first! So instead of

[jira] Commented: (UIMA-1129) XMI serialization support for delta CAS

2008-08-26 Thread Eddie Epstein (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625727#action_12625727 ] Eddie Epstein commented on UIMA-1129: - {quote} > bq.* I thought this option would be ena

Re: Cad Editor splitting

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
Jörn Kottmann wrote: This does sound like a good direction. In order to use the CAS viewer it should be accepted into the sandbox. Any objection to resubmitting the vote? There is still no plan how to merge it with the Cas Editor, expect for a small part which handles how to open the Cas Vie

Re: Cad Editor splitting

2008-08-26 Thread Jörn Kottmann
This does sound like a good direction. In order to use the CAS viewer it should be accepted into the sandbox. Any objection to resubmitting the vote? There is still no plan how to merge it with the Cas Editor, expect for a small part which handles how to open the Cas Viewer eclipse editor.

Re: Proposed API for CAS Journaling

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz
Bhavani Iyer wrote: Please review the intiial proposal for extending the CAS interface to support journaling posted on the wiki: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/UIMA/APIs+for+CAS+Journaling - Bhavani -1 to returning internal CAS handles as FS IDs. That's asking for trouble. Why w

Re: Cad Editor splitting

2008-08-26 Thread Jörn Kottmann
Should we start at the high-level a little bit by discussing about the flow ? For example, assuming that the input is an xmiCAS or CAS, what is the flow of the tool up to the point that users see something in Eclipse. An editor is opened by eclipse with a FileEditorInput this input only p

[jira] Commented: (UIMA-1158) Some shell scripts don't work on Ubuntu Linux

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1158?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625663#action_12625663 ] Thilo Goetz commented on UIMA-1158: --- No. There are plenty of systems out there that don't

[jira] Commented: (UIMA-1129) XMI serialization support for delta CAS

2008-08-26 Thread Thilo Goetz (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/UIMA-1129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12625661#action_12625661 ] Thilo Goetz commented on UIMA-1129: --- Bhavani Iyer (JIRA) wrote: > [ > https://issue