Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:41, Neil J. McRae wrote: At scale? I’m not so sure! Well that rather depends how much you think your POTS plant costs you. A wien bridge oscillator, to pick one of the many possibilities, is not a particularly expensive or difficult thing, but that misses the point

Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

There is a lot of mileage in that bit of copper yet, vectoring, g.bond, g.fast and beyond will keep it working hard and going faster and faster. And quite rightly so, everybody wants FTTP to very few people really want to pay for it. I recently elected that I wanted FTTP at my house (I have a

Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

On 22/03/16 21:38, David Reader wrote: On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:16, Ben King wrote: Trust me, pay the few extra quid and enjoy the warm security of a dial tone. I’m quite certain there are more cost-efficient ways to put an audible tone on a bunch of lines than renting a legacy POTS service…

Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

On 22 Mar 2016, at 21:16, Ben King wrote: Trust me, pay the few extra quid and enjoy the warm security of a dial tone. I’m quite certain there are more cost-efficient ways to put an audible tone on a bunch of lines than renting a legacy POTS service… …technically anyway. It being practical

Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

Honestly, as an SLU provider who has offered MPF (D-side only/no dial tone) for years, you don't want it! We are plagued with 'pair theft' on MPF, mostly 3rd party contractors to BT who are ignoring the supplied allocation data, working back from the DP to install a new line in the same location,

Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

"Dodgy practises" - "Effectively admitted" What a load of old codswallop! Paul - get a hobby or a pet or something - and soon - please! Of course BT is the only company that charges line rental. > On 22 Mar 2016, at 17:56, Paul Mansfield wrote: > >> On 22 March

Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

On 22 March 2016 at 17:44, Joseph Waite wrote: > >> On 22 Mar 2016, at 17:12, Paul Mansfield wrote: >> >> "Householders signing up for broadband packages could be exempted from >> the rental charge on their landline if they don't use it, under >> > But the cost will

[uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone

"Householders signing up for broadband packages could be exempted from the rental charge on their landline if they don't use it, under proposals to be discussed by the culture minister." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35869222 A spokesmen for BT said: "Anyone using broadband uses a