RE: FW: Using Unicode Characters in ASCII Streams

2002-02-06 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Asmus Freytag wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] we are a manufacturer of time and attendance terminals which aretransfering data using 8-Bit character streams [...] Now here is my question: Is there a method to add any Unicode character to a 8-Bit ASCII stream? [...] There are

New documents

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Everson
New WG2 documents are available: N2410 Revised proposal to encode the Limbu script in the UCS. http://www.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n2410.pdf (This document provides corrections to the Limbu set under ballot) N2411 Proposal to add two Greek letters for Bactrian to the UCS.

Re: Key E00 (was: (no subject))

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Everson
At 02:24 -0500 2002-02-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ISO keyboards have the section-sign (§) key, next to the 1 key above the tab key on the left of the keyboards. Some US keyboards (for instance the Mac PowerBook G3) don't have this key, but instead have the grave key there, while on the ISO

FW: Bar codes using unicode

2002-02-06 Thread Winkler, Arnold F
Found that somewhat old e-mail from Clive, but the web site is still there ... Good luck Arnold -Original Message- From: Hohberger, Clive [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 5:34 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Bar codes using unicode Speaking as a member of the

Answers about Unicode history

2002-02-06 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Here is a summary of all the answers I received to my historical questions. Sorry for the length of this post, but I think that many people will find this worth reading. Thanks again to all the people who took the time to reply. _ Marco --- --- --- --- Q: When did the Unicode project start,

RE: Bar codes using unicode

2002-02-06 Thread Hohberger, Clive
Thanks, Arnold. Good time for an update... The public domain specification (an AIM International Technical Standard)for black/white Ultracode(R) will be released sometime this year, probably around 4Q2002. We will have prototype encoding (UTF-8 to symbol graphic) and codeword-to-UTF-8 software

Re: A few questions about decomposition, equvalence and rendering

2002-02-06 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
JC It's pretty much a given that a normalization form that meddles with JC plain ASCII text isn't going to get used. I had to think about it, but it does makes sense. JC The U+1Fxx ones are the spacing compatibility equivalents, Compatibility who with?

Re: A few questions about decomposition, equvalence and rendering

2002-02-06 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Thanks a lot for the explanations. KW There is no good reason to invent composite combining marks KW involving two accents together. (In fact, there are good reasons KW *not* to do so.) The few that exist, e.g. U+0344, cause KW implementation problems and are discouraged from use. What are

Re: Key E00 (was: (no subject))

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Everson
Apple calls what I have on my desk an ISO extended keyboard. It came with my Cube. It has the section key next to the 1, and the grave key next to the z. My Powerbook has the grave key next to the 1, and no key next to the z. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography ***

Re: Cherokee accent

2002-02-06 Thread DougEwell2
Here is the response I got from the Cherokee Nation, to whom I cc'd my original question about the Cherokee accent mark. So, is this a candidate for encoding? -8-begin forwarded message-8- The accent is to be used on the syllable with the accent when pronouncing the word,

Re: Key E00 (was: (no subject))

2002-02-06 Thread DougEwell2
In a message dated 2002-02-06 3:39:14 Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ISO keyboards have the section-sign (§) key, next to the 1 key above the tab key on the left of the keyboards. Some US keyboards (for instance the Mac PowerBook G3) don't have this key, but instead

Re: Cherokee accent

2002-02-06 Thread Michael Everson
At 12:01 -0500 2002-02-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the response I got from the Cherokee Nation, to whom I cc'd my original question about the Cherokee accent mark. So, is this a candidate for encoding? I think I'll talk to her and see. -- Michael Everson *** Everson Typography ***

New Unicode Encoding/Compression: BOCU-1

2002-02-06 Thread Markus Scherer
Hello, Mark Davis and I developed a concrete, MIME-friendly version of the BOCU algorithm that we presented earlier (http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/docs/papers/binary_ordered_compression_for_unicode.html). We have a summary and spec with sample code at

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-06 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 11:12 AM, Lars Kristan wrote: Maybe digitally signed messages and bank accounts are not that good of an example, since people would be more careful there. Another case where this may get exploited will be domain names, once Unicode is allowed there. While

IUC20 talk Querying XML Documents by Paul Cotton Jonathan Robie

2002-02-06 Thread Misha . Wolf
The slides from the IUC20 talk titled Querying XML Documents, given by Paul Cotton and Jonathan Robie, are now available at: http://www.w3.org/2002/01/xquery-unicode.pdf Misha Wolf -- -- Visit our Internet site at

RE: Unicode and Security

2002-02-06 Thread Lars Kristan
Well, I was tempted to join the discussion for a while now, but one of the things that stopped me was that I didn't quite understand why it was so focused on the bidi stuff. To make a certain portion of the text look like something else should be easier than that. OK, invisible non-spacing

Re: A few questions about decomposition, equvalence and rendering

2002-02-06 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Juliusz continued: KW There is no good reason to invent composite combining marks KW involving two accents together. (In fact, there are good reasons KW *not* to do so.) The few that exist, e.g. U+0344, cause KW implementation problems and are discouraged from use. What are those

RE: Unicode and Security

2002-02-06 Thread Yves Arrouye
Well, nothing wrong with Unicode of course. Just means that there will need to be an option in your browser to reject any site without a digital certificate, and perhaps it will need to be turned on by default. So, Nothing prevents sites running frauds to get a certificate matching their

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-06 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 07:12:19PM +0100, Lars Kristan wrote: Well, I was tempted to join the discussion for a while now, but one of the things that stopped me was that I didn't quite understand why it was so focused on the bidi stuff. Because it can have a dramatic effect, whereas changing

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-06 Thread Barry Caplan
At 11:54 AM 2/6/2002 -0700, John H. Jenkins wrote: The original focus was on digital signatures, and I still don't get the objection. Because I don't know *precisely* what bytes Microsoft Word or Adobe Acrobat use, do I refuse to sign documents they create? Is that the idea? I mean, good

Oops!

2002-02-06 Thread James E. Agenbroad
The ALA/LC romanization tables ar at: lcweb.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/roman.html ( not .../romanization.html as in my earlier note) Sorry, Jim Agenbroad ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) It is not true that people stop pursuing their dreams because they grow old, they grow old because they

ALA/LC Romanization Tables on the Web

2002-02-06 Thread James E. Agenbroad
Wednesday, February 6, 2002 The scanned pages of the 1997 ALA/LC romanization tables are now available on the Web: http://lcweb.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/romanization.html Note that in lieu of the Wade Giles pages there is a note that pinyin guidelines are

Re: A few questions about decomposition, equvalence and rendering

2002-02-06 Thread David Hopwood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Kenneth Whistler wrote: ... See CompositionExclusions.txt, which has a special section mentioning just these four oddballs: # # (4) Non-Starter Decompositions # These characters can be derived from the