Re: spoof buddies

2002-02-12 Thread Vladimir Ivanov
$B$m!;!;!;!;(B $B$m!;!;!;(B scripsit: > Do there exist official Russian names of Unicode characters? They could > probably be constructed with slightly less difficulty than English names. > > If these Russian names do not exist, maybe you can make some up! I know > there are French names! I h

RE: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread Yves Arrouye
> A ideal interface should probably automatically and silently select > Unicode > (and its default UTF) whenever one or more of the characters in a document > are not representable in the local encoding. I beg to differ. Silently doing such an unexpected change is guaranteed to confuse the user,

Collating Hebrew/Arabic

2002-02-12 Thread Peter_Constable
Can anyone here respond to this query? Thanks. Peter - Forwarded by Peter Constable/IntlAdmin/WCT on 02/12/2002 02:51 PM - Are there a couple key web sites you'd recommend to someone who's tasked with knowing about and implementing "collation" for Hebrew/Arabic in particular? I'm sur

Re: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:12:08PM +0100, Marco Cimarosti wrote: > OK, UTF-8 is my favorite default UTF too. However, whatever the default is, > it is easier to just call it "Unicode", and call the other options "Unicode > (something else)". > > That puts one less acronym in front of the "naive"

RE: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread Marco Cimarosti
David Starner wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:22:01AM +0100, Marco Cimarosti wrote: > > At best, the localization could use a label such as > "Unicode (UTF-8)" to > > enforce the concept that UTF-8 is Unicode as well. But it > could hardly use > > "Unicode (UTF-16BE)" for the *default* UTF,

Re: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:22:01AM +0100, Marco Cimarosti wrote: > At best, the localization could use a label such as "Unicode (UTF-8)" to > enforce the concept that UTF-8 is Unicode as well. But it could hardly use > "Unicode (UTF-16BE)" for the *default* UTF, because the user would ask > "Where

Re: This spoofing and security thread

2002-02-12 Thread Thomas Chan
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Michael Everson wrote: > At 18:37 + 2002-02-11, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > > - a cross-reference of characters whose associated glyphs are > > identical, whatever the font (applies to symbols and ``modifier > > letters''); > > But the letter b isn't identical

Re: ICU website

2002-02-12 Thread Patrick Rourke
> I see them correctly. The problem is the font; the standard > Arial/Times don't contain all the Greek characters; notably > the polytonic. Since I use Arial Unicode MS as my default > browser font, they appear to me. Any other font that had a > full repertoire of Greek would serve as well. (It w

Re: ICU website

2002-02-12 Thread Mark Davis
 I see them correctly. The problem is the font; the standard Arial/Times don't contain all the Greek characters; notably the polytonic. Since I use Arial Unicode MS as my default browser font, they appear to me. Any other font that had a full repertoire of Greek would serve as well. (It would

Re: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread Tom Gewecke
>As a poor software maker, I suppose I ought to defend other software >makers. >EVERYONE KNOWS that Unicode and UTF-16 are the same thing. It is, >>unfortunately, irrelevant that in this case (as in so many others) "what >>everyone knows" happens to be untrue. We exist to conform to the user's >>e

RE: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread Marco Cimarosti
Martin Kochanski wrote: > >From: Tom Gewecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > I constantly run into browser, mail, and text editing software > > with encoding menus that list, as two separate items, Unicode > > and UTF-8, as if Unicode and UTF-16 were identical and as if > > UTF-8 were not Unicode.

News from the Open Language Archives Community (OLAC)

2002-02-12 Thread Peter_Constable
This is several weeks old now, but may still be news of interest to some on this list. - Peter --- Peter Constable Non-Roman Script Initiative, SIL International 7500 W. Camp Wisdom Rd., Dallas, TX 75236, USA Tel: +1 972

Re: This spoofing and security thread

2002-02-12 Thread Lars Marius Garshol
* Juliusz Chroboczek | | - a map from characters to scripts; http://www.unicode.org/Public/3.1-Update/Scripts-3.1.0.txt > -- Lars Marius Garshol, Ontopian http://www.ontopia.net > ISO SC34/WG3, OASIS GeoLang TChttp://www.garshol.priv.no >

Re: UTF-16 is not Unicode

2002-02-12 Thread Martin Kochanski
As a poor software maker, I suppose I ought to defend other software makers. EVERYONE KNOWS that Unicode and UTF-16 are the same thing. It is, unfortunately, irrelevant that in this case (as in so many others) "what everyone knows" happens to be untrue. We exist to conform to the user's expecta

Re: spoof buddies

2002-02-12 Thread $B$m!;!;!;!;(B $B$m!;!;!;(B
>But in this case I would ask people responsible for that not to disable this >feature in future Russian editions of Office. It would help not only to >detect "spoof buddies" but also allows easier input of IPA diacritics. >Because even with 1024x768 resolution on 15" monitor it is difficult to