Re: Lowercase numerals

2002-11-21 Thread Otto Stolz
Patrick Andries wrote: Latin numerals are not based on the position of the letter in the alphabet, contrarily to Greek for instance. Latin numerals are not based on the first letter of the word they represent, with the exception of C and M, perhaps (*). ... (L, for instance was

Re: mixed-script writing systems

2002-11-21 Thread John Cowan
Dean Snyder scripsit: What are the properties which will trigger separate Unicode encodings for characters typically or always represented by identically shaped glyphs? Well, whyn't you say so? The normative ones, exactly and precisely. Casing is normative, so if language A claims that

RE: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

2002-11-21 Thread John Hudson
At 05:34 AM 11/21/2002, Gary P. Grosso wrote: As this will likely come up in my line of work (tech support and troubleshooting for products which, among other things, export HTML), I would be interested in any more detail/explanation (or pointers to such) about using Uniscribe for complex text

Re: [OT] Curious about persian page numbers

2002-11-21 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2002.11.19, 13:50, Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Thinking of it, this is the probably also the reason why Roman numerals in page numbers are lowercase: to avoid confusing pages I and II with pages 1 and 11.) At least in Portugal, roman numbers are *never* lower case. --

Re: Morse code

2002-11-21 Thread Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin
On 2002.11.18, 10:44, Otto Stolz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was under the impression that all three Morse code elements are already in Unicode: U+00B7 U+2013 U+0020 For context: _ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002

Roman numerals (was: RE: Lowercase numerals)

2002-11-21 Thread Kent Karlsson
The same is true for M which had, amongst its many early forms, a form close to (I), [...] Cf. U+2180 in http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2150.pdf. Note that V is half an X (the upper half), L emerged from half a C (the upper half of its original form), D is half a U+2180 (the

RE: Morse coded Unicode(was: Morse code

2002-11-21 Thread Carl W. Brown
Stefan, The point that I was making was not to actually encode Unicode in Morse but to make people think of Unicode in a different light. Morse code is a different media and its purposes are different from most applications that employ Unicode. Mapping between Morse and Unicode is like

Re: Morse code

2002-11-21 Thread Jim Allan
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin posted: Note that a more or less correct (content) display of the morse symbols depends on the typeface used (presentation), and probably this should not be so. Normally Morse code appears in text through a cypher font containing complete sets of dots and dashes

Re: [OT] Curious about persian page numbers

2002-11-21 Thread Michael Everson
At 18:29 + 2002-11-21, Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin wrote: On 2002.11.19, 13:50, Marco Cimarosti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Thinking of it, this is the probably also the reason why Roman numerals in page numbers are lowercase: to avoid confusing pages I and II with pages 1 and 11.) At

RE: Morse coded Unicode(was: Morse code

2002-11-21 Thread Tom Gewecke
The point that I was making was not to actually encode Unicode in Morse but to make people think of Unicode in a different light. Morse code is a different media and its purposes are different from most applications that employ Unicode. Mapping between Morse and Unicode is like translating

Re: Lowercase numerals

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Lotze
Firstly, thanks to all who answered so far. Kenneth Whistler wrote: Because oldstyle numerals aren't really lowercase in the same sense as small letters (though some typographers think of them that way; see[1]). They're just glyph variants of the uniform-height lining numerals, so yeah,

RE: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

2002-11-21 Thread Joseph Boyle
Changing IE6's Devanagari font from Mangal to Arial Unicode MS breaks reordering on my XP, so it looks like the main issue is presence of OpenType reordering info in the font, and not Uniscribe. Arial Unicode MS does not appear to be an OpenType font. Uniscribe is included with IE 5.0 and

Re: ISO 10646, Unicode The FAQ

2002-11-21 Thread Rick McGowan
Earlier today Andy White asked: Is the Unicode FAQ officially part of the Unicode standard? Since nobody else has picked this up, I'll venture an answer. The answer is no. The FAQ pages are not part of the standard. If not why not? The FAQ pages are interpretations of the standard about

Re: ISO 10646, Unicode The FAQ (Bengali Khanda Ta)

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Rick investigated, and came up with: In a specific case, Andy asked about Khanda Ta, and pointed to a WG2 resolution that contradicts the Unicode FAQ on the same topic. I looked up a paper listing an action item as follows, taken from document

Re: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

2002-11-21 Thread rajesh
Dear Folks, Let me tell you my experience of Hindi language with the MS Sql 2000, MS Access 2000, MS Word 2000 and Outlook express. My system is running on Windows 2000 Professional. I have installed the Indian languages patch provided with the Windows 2000 OS. When I use the Hindi Tradition

Re: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

2002-11-21 Thread John Hudson
At 08:55 PM 11/21/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does not waste any space. but when I use the language in MS Access and MS word 2000, I get like this रा जे श It gets one space after each hindi letter. What could be the problem with Access and Word? This is a known issue in Office 2000

Re: Morse code

2002-11-21 Thread Doug Ewell
Anto'nio Martins-Tuva'lkin antonio at tuvalkin dot web dot pt wrote: BTW, which characters should be used to encode the dot and dash of Morse in a typographically correct way? ... It looks best on some rounded fonts, like Vag. But in regular fonts (both sans and serif) a middle dot and a

Re: Lowercase numerals

2002-11-21 Thread Doug Ewell
Thomas Lotze thomas dot lotze at uni dash jena dot de wrote: So can it be summarized that figures (both arabic and latin) actually come in only one flavor (upper or lowercase), the other being a variant glyph, and both kinds of roman numerals being encoded for reasons other than their

Re: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?

2002-11-21 Thread rajesh
Now, what should I do to fix this bug in my system by using the Windows 2000 OS? Rajesh - Original Message - From: John Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Anyone who can write Hindi on the Unicode List?