Looking for two mathematical characters

2003-06-15 Thread Patrick Andries
I'm looking for two mathematical characters.   1) The canonical one-to-one (injective) mapping; is this U+21AA ? Looks like it (no annotation though).   2) An angle operator (combining mark ?) looking like this _| , where     a  )    n|  a    )   n occurrence

[OT] IE support for standards (was: No more IE for Mac)

2003-06-15 Thread Doug Ewell
Philippe Verdy wrote: > It's a great news. It will force websites to stop using Microsoft > specific features and caveats, and adopt the real standards. > ... > If web sites start using the real standards, people will upgrade for > a more standard browser, and Microsoft will consider correcting >

Re: Missing Character, Armenian Eterntity

2003-06-15 Thread Michael Everson
At 18:50 -0400 2003-06-15, Steven Shamlian wrote: "Perhaps the most common Pre-Christian symbol still in use today, is the round, whirling symbol of eternity. In Armenia it is found everywhere, in architecture; on doors, walls and on tombstones. It can also be found as part of various logotypes

Re: Missing Character, Armenian Eterntity

2003-06-15 Thread Steven Shamlian
How is it used? What does it really mean? Can you show us samples of it in use in text of various kinds? The Armenian Eternity symbol is a modernization of an ancient Armenian petroglyph symbol (can be seen in context here at http://www.willmaster.com/aviator/M2M/mariam%20hakobyan%20-%20armenia/1

Re: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-15 Thread Edward H Trager
> > that how will browsers perform that are build on non-Unicode > based OSes? > > But surely Mac OSX has been designed to support Unicode ?? > How much longer will we need browsers to run in operating > environments that are non-Unicode based? > > > Let us hope that this drop of support will re

RE: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-15 Thread Michael Everson
At 07:39 -0700 2003-06-15, Carl W. Brown wrote: I hope that Apple develops a competitive browser with great Unicode support. Apple has already done so, though I still like OmniWeb very much. :-) -- Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com

RE: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-15 Thread Carl W. Brown
> I disagree with Philippe's message in that I think that it is based on > Microsoft's determination to follow the idea that browsers are not > applications but part of the OS. To clarify my statement. I think Philippe's message was appropriate to this forum. It was far more pertinent to Unicode

Re: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-15 Thread Christopher John Fynn
"Stefan Persson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > I believe that we won't see any MS Office 20003 for another 18000 years. Whooops... typo. - Chris

Fonts to Render Unicode web pages (was: Re: [OT] No more IE for Mac)

2003-06-15 Thread Christopher John Fynn
"Philippe Verdy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > removing the unnecessary > features that Microsoft wants to promote, such as proprietary web fonts for CSS2, Phillipe I presume you are talking about "embedded" web fonts - since if CSS is simply used to get the "best match", using fonts a

Re: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-15 Thread Stefan Persson
Christopher John Fynn wrote: Since MS Office 20003 seems to be heavily based on XML, it looks to me like end user applications are in effect becoming specialised XML browsers / editors. I believe that we won't see any MS Office 20003 for another 18000 years. Stefan

Re: [OT] No more IE for Mac

2003-06-15 Thread Christopher John Fynn
"Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > MichKa, > > This is an equal opportunity forum intended for discussion of issues > > relative to Unicode, an industrial consortium that includes (among many > > others) the co